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The scene with Todd in the diner takes place in the future and the blood was Lydias

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This occurred to me as well. I thought maybe it's the last shot in the last episode.

But then I remembered Todd has just called Walt from in front of the diner.

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Really wild ass prediction:

The scene with Todd in the diner takes place in the future and the blood was Lydias

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Very wild, you want to know why?

They killed Declans men and then took the methlemine. They were driving from Arizona to New Mexico with it.



[This message has been edited by Unthought Known (edited 8/26/2013 9:19a).]

This show doesn't play cheap timeline games like that. They've flashed to the past and future numerous times throughout the series, and they always go out of their way to make it obvious.

So instead of wild ass prediction, I'll go with wild ass wrong prediction.

from Sepinwall:

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1)In "End Times," to get Jesse back on his side in the war against Gus, Walt arranges for Huell to steal the cigarette pack with the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's pocket and replace it with a different pack. Saul calls Jesse to his office on shaky reasons, and Huell pats him down in a way that gets Jesse's attention. Walt doesn't use the ricin to poison Brock, but rather a lily of the valley plant that will have a similar but less dangerous effect on the boy.

2)When Jesse hears that Brock has been poisoned, he realizes that the ricin cigarette is missing, then (correctly) puts two and two together that Huell stole it, on Walt's orders. He storms into Walt's house and threatens to kill him for poisoning Brock; Walt convinces Jesse that it was Gus, not him, who wanted to hurt the boy — specifically so Jesse would come to this conclusion and murder Walt for him — and that Tyrus must have lifted the cigarettes from Jesse's locker at the Super Lab. Jesse accepts that Mr. White would never hurt a child, whereas Gus has a history of hurting children, and lets go of the theory about Huell.

3)Doctors later figure out that Brock was poisoned by a lily of the valley, not ricin, making Jesse doubt Walt's theory about Gus manipulating Jesse into shooting Walt, and leaving him to wonder what really happened to the ricin cigarette. Walt stages a phony search of Jesse's house and plants a fake cigarette (containing salt, not ricin) inside Jesse's Roomba. None of this sits well with Jesse, but he once again believes Mr. White.

4)Over the course of season 5, starting around the murder of Drew Sharp, Jesse has begun to realize that he shouldn't believe anything Walt says. Walt claims to be broken up over Drew's death, then whistles while he works. Walt claims that Mike left town alive, when Jesse knows that Walt would've never taken out Mike's guys unless Mike was dead. Walt gives Jesse a whole song and dance about how leaving town will be good for Jesse, when Jesse knows that it will be even better for Walt.

5)Having been primed to disbelieve any word out of Walt's mouth, Jesse goes to Saul's office, lights up a joint and gets scolded by Saul, who knows his relocation expert won't pick up anyone who's high. Saul orders Huell to again pick Jesse's pocket to get rid of the marijuana.

6)At the pick-up spot, a nervous Jesse reaches for his pot, and can't find it. He frantically checks all his pockets, but all he finds is a cigarette pack. Staring at the cigarette pack, and realizing Huell dipped into his pocket without him noticing, Jesse realizes that his first suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct, and that Mr. White was manipulating him into turning against Gus, endangering Brock's life in the process.

That the ricin wasn't actually used on Brock is beside the point. Jesse knew from the beginning that Huell had picked his pocket, and that he must have done it on Mr. White's orders. He has been thinking about this often in the months since it happened — far more often and more intensely than those of us watching the show have, and in a more compressed time period. When he realizes Huell picked his pocket, and stares at another crumpled cigarette pack, everything clicks into place about the events of "End Times" — including how convenient it was that this terrible thing happened to Brock, which turned Jesse back into Walt's ally, at the exact moment Walt needed an ally against Gus — and he goes on the warpath against Saul, Huell and that ******* Mr. White.

You may disagree with whether Jesse would have put all the pieces together like that, but that's what happened.

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IMO myth plausible

Yeah, I think the timeline works against the viewer. It's been 2 years since any of that happened in our minds, but in the show timeline, only a few months.

Months that include Walt murdering 10 guys, murdering Mike (and lying about it), and as Seipenwall mentioned, being part of the kid getting murdered in the train heist but doing a lousy job of faking how broken up about it he was.

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Predictions on what happens to Jesse to stop him from burning the house? Way I see it, these are the possibilities:

1. Walt shows up, there's a showdown, Jesse is killed
2. Walt Jr shows up, Jesse hauls ass outta there
3. Jesse simply changes his mind before lighting it up and leaves
4. Something else?

Edit: Actually, I forgot to mention my other prediction -- Jesse turns the gun on himself.

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Maybe a blend of 1 & 3. Walt shows up and keeps Jesse from going through with it, but short of death.

Wouldn't be surprised to see #1 though.

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True Danny, but the Brock poisoning was a major, major turning point in the show, and the BrBa writers rarely spoonfeed/underestimate the audience. In fact, maybe sometimes they OVERestimate them, but I'm sure they know the really dedicated fans will make sense of it.

Sepinwall covers it very well. Thanks!

Last nights episode was freaking outstanding.....

I don't think the plot line was a stretch. But don't care if some people do. For me, I didn't put it all together until he stormed back into Saul's office.

The scene at the restaurant, the dessert, the video, the risin.....

Holy crap what a great episode.

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That the ricin wasn't actually used on Brock is beside the point. Jesse knew from the beginning that Huell had picked his pocket, and that he must have done it on Mr. White's orders.

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Then why even steal the ricin.

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Then why even steal the ricin.

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To make Jesse think Gus used it to poison Brock.

He needed Jesse to think that Gus took the ricin and did it. He saw Jesse drifting over to Gus' side (had dinner with Gus and lied about it), and he needed him to turn on Gus to help him get an opportunity to kill Gus. It's wasn't going to permanently turn Jesse because they'd eventually realize it wasn't ricin, but it ultimately gave Walt enough time and direct help from Jesse for 2 chances to kill Gus (Jesse intentionally lured Gus to the hospital for chance 1, then realized Gus would visit Hector which led to chance 2). First one failed, second one didn't.

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Anyone else here kinda equate Jesse with Christopher Moltisante? An early exit for him would be similar as well.

Also, I'd be shocked if 2 minor storylines are not resolved or revisited before Jesse dies. First, Jesse's relationship with his fam. Second, to a much lesser extent (and can be done even post Jesse death if it happens) is the murder or the little boy in the dessert.

the confession video put this show over the top for me. it's not even 1A with the Wire right now.

all Walt had to really do is let Hank know that he was the one paying for the medical bills

but no, no half measures. Hank is Heisenberg. and the way we get to watch Hank and Marie take it all in. just brilliant.

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the confession video put this show over the top for me. it's not even 1A with the Wire right now.

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Although I've never seen The Wire or Sopranos, LOST has always been a personal favorite, and BrBa had been neck and neck with it for years now. I could never decide which was my favorite of all time.

Last night cemented it. Breaking Bad is my favorite show of all time.

I think Jesse might see a picture of the Walt Jr & Holly and decide not to burn the house down. But more likely, Walt Jr walks in or is already in the house, and that's what stops Jesse from burning it down.

I never thought a show would surpass the Sopranos.
















That was until Season 4 of Breaking Bad.

I also liked the diner/Todd scene because it shows such a contrast to what we were witnessing in Season 3/4.

We go from a highly professional, meticulous, ruthless Gus Fring- who took all necessary and sometimes over the top steps to protect himself and his investment. And now we have a 'biker gang' of sorts pulled a trailer of methlyamine behind them in their pickup truck. Nonchalantly conversing about a train heist.

Yes- blood on the shoe, wiping it off with toilet paper as opposed to Gus suiting up to slice a dudes neck- to clean himself thoroughly for 15 minutes afterwards.

Nice touch I think

After the last season of Lost, especially the Finale, I considered shows like Reba and Mike&Molly to be neck and neck with Lost.

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I liked it because I was having flashbacks to Reservoir Dogs.


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I also liked the diner/Todd scene

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I liked it because I was having flashbacks to Reservoir Dogs

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Did they tip the waitress?

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I really loved the first episode of this season. With the Walt/Hank confrontation in the garage. But, this episode was even better, imo. For so many reasons...

1. The mexican restaurant scene was so freakin great. Both Hank and Marie wanted to reach across the table and strangle the Whites. It was really cool how they did such an intense scene out in public. Having to whisper all those hate fueled lines to Walt. I really wanted Walt to finally order the guacamole. I would of died laughing. To the waiter: "You know what, we'll do the guacamole" as he slides the CD across the table and leaves.

2. That scene between Jr. and Walt. Very emotional. Even though Walt has done terrible terrible things he still cares very much for his son. And Jr. completely adores his Dad. Very good scene.

3. The confession video. Damn. That was so great. I was pretty surprised that Skyler let him do that. She has completely broke bad. What a turn she has made. Also, what a threat by Walt. He is such a terrible person. Doing that to his brother and sister in law. That was the ultimate Heisenberg moment.Unreal.

4. The Walt/Jesse scene in the desert. Jesse is my favorite character. It is so brutal to watch him sulk. I love his character. So it was really good to see Jesse talking again. Aaron Paul did such a great job with that scene (and the final scene as well). Questioning Walt, bringing up Mike, etc. So emotional. Then Walt goes over and embraces him and the tears are flowing. I was so into the show I didn't realize that I had stood up from my seat. I can't wait to get home tonight and watch this scene again.

5. The Jesse realization. This blind sided me. I thought the fireworks of this episode were behind us with the confession video and the Walt/Jesse desert scene. Then this. Wow. I didn't think it was a stretch for Jesse to put it all together. He had already suspected this before. That plus Walt lying about Mike. Jesse was on edge about Walt. I can definitely see him making the connection. Then we get to see maniac Jesse. I loved it. I really had no idea what he was going to do with that gun in his hand. Edge of my seat! Then the gasoline. Wow.

Incredible episode.

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Easy to overlook this scene with such an amazing episode. Marie's "just kill yourself". Holy crap.

Another thing... it will be depressing when this thing ends in 5 weeks.

Would have been nice to have them show Marie sneak the salt and pepper shakers into her purse at the Mexican restaurant.

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I did too! And the waiter did look like the flare guy from Office Space.

I have come to like Hank a lot. That scene in the restaurant and then the "confession" were brutal. They just remind us what a monster Walt is.

I am afraid that there are a number of clues that Hank may have gone off to kill himself. Marie tells WALT to go kill himself, but Walt is far too narcissistic and power mad to do that. Hank tells Marie that the knowledge that Walt paid his health care bills is "the final nail in the coffin." Hank appears to be a somewhat crass and shallow man--though that is clearly mostly a mask that he has to adopt to deal with a world of manly men and the scum they have to confront--but he is also a consummate, dedicated professional who cannot take the blow to his reputation that is going to come no matter what. I'm afraid he has walked out of the office to end it all.

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Walt would have to "take care" of Marie if this happened. She would go ape ****.

Or Hank might just say "**** it" and go kill Walt. Or at least try.

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1. The mexican restaurant scene was so freakin great...

2. That scene between Jr. and Walt. Very emotional. Even though Walt has done terrible terrible things he still cares very much for his son. And Jr. completely adores his Dad...

3. The confession video. Damn. That was so great. I was pretty surprised that Skyler let him do that. She has completely broke bad...

4. The Walt/Jesse scene in the desert...Then Walt goes over and embraces him and the tears are flowing...

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1. The restaurant scene was great because it was so intense yet was sprinkled throughout with comic relief. The waiter's upbeat interjections about margaritas and guacamole mixed into the ultra-dark conversation made me laugh out loud.

2. The scene between Walt & Jr. didn't show how much Walt loves Jr. It showed how manipulative he is and how evil he's become. His cancer confession wasn't done out of love for Jr., he did it solely to prevent Jr. from going to Hank's and losing that leverage. That wasn't a loving version of Walt that we were watching...it was a very evil Heisenberg.

3. Many of you find it far fetched that Jesse figured out the ricin thing. I find it even more far fetched that Skylar would turn on her sister like she has. That video is pure evil, and Skylar was directly involved. I honestly think we're going to see Skylar realize how horrible her actions are and rebel against Walt. And then Walt will kill her.

4. Am I the only one who saw Walt hug Jesse and instantly thought "Fredo, you broke my heart"? I really think Walt was going to kill Jesse right then and there if Jesse hadn't agreed to go along with the plan.

anyone else notice during the scene from the Mexican restaurant marie was wearing black and hank was wearing purple?

in the desert scene when walt was hugging Jessie, I honestly expected walt to shoot him in the gut.

i'd be happy with an ending for which only Flynn, Jessie, Holly and Saul survive and everyone else dies. I'd like to see hank live, but if not that's okay, but I sure as sh*t wanna see walt dead. which leads me to think walt survives but only after sacrificing everyone else, intentionally or not. pos.

I can't help but think the scene where Walt is at Hank's house and Hank comes home the day the 10 witnesses are killed foreshadows Walt going on the run and camping and Hank giving up chasing monsters. In the scene Hank is talking about how he should have appreciated his job tagging trees to be taken down more and that he is getting sick of chasing monsters. Walt ends the scene saying he loved going camping. We already know Walt is on the run from the flash-forwards but I'm guessing he is camping out somewhere. Does Hank give up chasing monsters after he takes care of Walt or does he throw in the towel? I think Jesse goes back to Hank and tells all, sending Walt on the run.