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Thought some might find this interesting…not only is Disney bringing back the OGs of Star Wars to Disney Land (pretty sure World is on its way too)….but they shockingly listened to fans regarding the actors for Han and Leia….

Kinda interesting…..

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Taking the kids to Disneyland in July.


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double aught said:

Taking the kids to Disneyland in July.




You'll get to do the new mando/grogu mission on the falcon. Based on this poster, i sure hope Grogu can hold his breath.



I will never get tired of these views being a place I can go in real life



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Based on this poster, i sure hope Grogu can hold his breath.

Well, Grogu is kinda a Jedi, right? And The Last Jedi clearly establishes that Jedi can breath in space.

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"I don't think that it's even part of the future of the franchise. I think it is a vital part of the storytelling ecosystem today," Waugh says. "I think that Star Wars gaming expressions are a fundamental part of what has made Star Wars successful. I've been playing Star Wars games ever since Trench Run. We're living in a media landscape where people want to access authentic expressions of the things they love from so many different ways. And our job is to make sure that we give them that.

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CheeseSndwch said:

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"I don't think that it's even part of the future of the franchise. I think it is a vital part of the storytelling ecosystem today," Waugh says. "I think that Star Wars gaming expressions are a fundamental part of what has made Star Wars successful. I've been playing Star Wars games ever since Trench Run. We're living in a media landscape where people want to access authentic expressions of the things they love from so many different ways. And our job is to make sure that we give them that.

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I am confused. Is Galactic Siege a Fortnite game or are they creating a GS mod for Fortnite in addition to standalone GS game?
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I was watching the Empire Strikes Back last night and I think I stumbled on a hidden sub-plot.

When Han turns the Falcon around and goes right at the Star Destroyer after escaping the space worm, we all know that he look like he's going to hit the bridge, then disappears, makes some sort of unreal G-Force braking maneuver, and attaches the Falcon to the back side of the SD. Captain Needa rightfully predicts that the ship doesn't have a cloaking device, and which point he gets the call that Vader wants an update on the situation - 15 minutes later, RIP Captain Needa.

Something never sat right with me about this scene, and I think I've figured it out. The dude who says Vader wants an update is way too tall to be sitting at that station. No way he's sitting there 12 hours a day, or whatever the standard Imperial shift is. He's all legs. No way he'd take that job. He's there because he's up to something, and I think I know what it is. Wookiepedia says his name is M'Kae, which is what Mr. Garrison says on South Park.




You've got Captain Needa, already high up the hierarchy, running the SD Avenger, still a young man, guy has the world on a string, right? Born on Coruscant, his dad probably bought him an officership so he didn't have to spend 18 months as a stormtrooper on the Outer Rim.

So one day, homeboy is on leave and he bumps into this good looking woman at a bar. A little flirting, he asks if she's ever done it in a TIE Interceptor before, and at that point she has to mention she's actually married to a guy who is also in the fleet - and it's the tall guy in the picture - M'Kae. Now Needa doesn't know this guy from an Ewok, he's just some scrub, and Needa's a damn captain. So he decides to hook it up with Mrs. M'Kae, figuring it's a hit and quit, like bullseying womp rats in a T-16, but she grows on him and eventually one night after she finally lets him hit it Tauntaun style, he says he loves her and she decides to kick M'Kae to the curb.

She dumps M'Kae over the holonet, but she doesn't realize that Needa was checking his email on her computer and the message sends from his account. Now M'Kae is heartbroken and knows that Needa stole his wife. So he starts plotting his revenge. Probably going to off him on the bridge and then kill himself, so there's no trial, no hard time on Belsavis. He pays off some dude to get up on the bridge, but all of a sudden they're attacking Hoth and then they're in an asteroid field, so he can't do it now or he'll endanger too many people.

Then, everyone is talking about Vader force choking Admiral Ozzell for being a moron, and M'Kae gets an idea - I don't have to kill Needa and ruin my career if I get someone else to do it for me.. So he starts hatching a new plan and suddenly the opportunity is in his lap. Needa's lost the Falcon and doesn't know what to do next.

Which leads me to my real point. Vader asked for an update on the pursuit? Can you imagine Vader saying to any person, "Hey, let's get an update on that healthcare policy? I've got the kids this weekend and I want to wrap it up before 5 on Friday?"
Hell, no. Vader probably was looking at the radar on the Executor, saw what happened, and went back to his hyperbaric chamber to sulk.
But ol M'Kae just lobs the grenade, "Oh, hey, Captain Needa, Lord Vader is demanding an update on the pursuit."

And that makes it even worse for Needa. Because now he flies over to the Executor, interrupts Vader while he's watching his Boonta Eve win from 32 BBY on the Podracer Classic channel, and tells him something he already knows. Boom, Needa's down and M'Kae, like Darths Maul and Sidious before him, at last has his revenge.


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Aint nobody got time to read all that
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Are you on the clock while drinking this much?
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The story we missed due to The Last Jedi screwing the pooch and costing Solo a poor run at the box office….
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Happy Sunday yall! Enjoy a little funny I put together this evening.
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The Big Picture podcast did a really fun "Star Wars Draft" last week. 2-1/2 hours long. Laughed all the way through. We should so something similar.

https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-big-picture/2026/04/27/the-star-wars-movie-draft
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Incredible…

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He said big; that doesn't sound that big...
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Can't wait for Ahsoka 2
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This never gets old. May the Fourth be with you.

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TCTTS said:

Incredible…



If Star Wars is "for f**** kids" then why do so many adults love it?

Sure, it has stuff geared toward kids, but it is a lazy take to say this is for kids. When I was 10 watching Star Wars for the first time, all I saw was the whiz-bang stuff, the X-Wings, the light sabres, etc. As I got older and had been exposed to more literature, I recognized themes in Star Wars that I never would have known earlier, I saw where Lucas drew inspiration to craft his own story, stuff like that. A kid sees the Ewoks as cute or fun; I saw them first as annoying as f*** and paraphrase what Lucas once said about them, in that advanced technology can be defeated through primitive means. The Phantom Menace comes along with its story inspired in no small part by the rise of Adolf Hitler reflected in the machinations a senator from Naboo uses to gain power - no kid is coming up with that connection.

But yeah, Star Wars is just for kids.
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A sucker punch right to the feels on May the 4th

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TCTTS said:

Incredible…



He talks like Sam Witmer with the knowledge of Star Wars but with a lot more ****s thrown in
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I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

A sucker punch right to the feels on May the 4th



Great trailer. Quite a few more cinematic shots that don't fit in with this just being a "tv show"
CharleyKerfeld
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The "special trailer" isn't Ahsoka Season 2. There's a four-part Mando/Grogu preview on Disney Plus today that includes the first 3-1/2 minutes of the movie.
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Nah, I think I'll go right on as I am
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Made cannon by Mando and Grogu, this toy came out in the 80s despite never being in the movie.
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TCTTS said:




In all fairness, Prinze was coming pretty hard after adult Star Wars fans in that clip with kind of a douchy attitude. I've posted on here before that I think Star Wars is one of the few cinematic properties that at this point almost feels like its "owned" as much by the fans as it is the original creator, Lucas ( I think the fans sure as hell "own" it a lot more than disney does). I think Cinco was just reacting to that.

To that, Prinze is missing the point. Adult SW fans simply want two things: Disney to stop crapping all over it by making absolute turds like The Acolyte and The Last Jedi, and Disney to stop trying to retcon it.

But man TC, you knew you were gonna stir up a hornet's nest with that post. You can't just drop that, run, and then say "Lighten Up!", lol.
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I don't agree with Prinze, but that was a pretty funny rant.
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Somebody posted about The Big Picture podcast Star Wars draft a few posts back, and its worth a listen simply because they have a great conversation about Star Wars fandom and how much of a hot mess it is, how hard it is to love something so much that seems to go off the rails so often, etc.

I do think Star Wars fandom is interesting, because while there are A LOT of huge Star Wars fans, everyone is coming to it appreciating different things about the franchise and then expecting different things from it in the future, which I think is why its been so hard to please the fan base. There are sci-fi elements that people love, fantasy elements, heroes journey, epic battles, kids humor/storytelling, the list goes on and on. And I don't think there is a way for the franchise to hit the bullseye the way the original trilogy did, so there will always be very vocal groups of detractors no matter what Disney/Lucasfilm puts out.

I mean, maybe Andor/Rogue One are the most close to getting universal acclaim and fans, but even they miss out on the kids aspect. Like, my kids can't watch Andor until they are in their teens, not just for adult content, but the storytelling will be way over their heads.

I'm not trying to let them off the hook for the complete cluster of the sequel trilogy. I just do think that perhaps Star Wars fans are expecting too much from their IP of choice.
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With Star Wars turning 50 next year, you could equate to the fandom of someone like Paul Mcartney or Bob Dylan - you can be a fan of theirs without all of their catalog being great, and you can admit that their early stuff was the best, but once in a while theyll put out a song or an album that really holds water. It's probably never going to be as good as the thing that first made you love the movies, same as whatever the first song/album you fell in love with, and the artist/franchise veers off in all sorts of different directions to try and create new stuff, experiment, and find more commercial success. Different people come in at different points in the timeline and have their own favorite stuff, and think everyone else is nuts for not loving it.

One of the healthiest things I ever did a couple of years ago was not stop caring about other people criticizing Star Wars and just embracing my own joy of it. Sort of like when I stopped living and dying with Aggie football. Feels a lot nicer.
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veryfuller said:

I just do think that perhaps Star Wars fans are expecting too much from their IP of choice.

I will concede this point. I do expect more from insanely rich people reusing decades old tropes that have been done to death by Star Trek and Stargate (to a certain extent) like "Cosmic Exploration," "Deep Space Mysteries," "Portal To New Worlds" and others.

But when the decisions of your predecessors where so abortive, like Rose, clones of Palpatine, Rey being the daughter of a Palp clone reject, farting space ghost Leia, etc etc, I guess going formulaic and copying what other scifi franchises have done is the safe play.
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Star Wars has room for multiple variations of storyteling....decidedly adult fare like Andor, more juvenile fare like most of their animation, and finally stuff that should be able hit all bases (which is what they should aim for with their big tent-pole theatrical releases).

But I'm not talking about the type of story they tell and who its geared to. I'm talking about the quality. I'm an adult who's enjoyed viewing Clone Wars, Rebels, Skeleton Crew and now Maul - Shadow Lord with my son. Meanwhile, regardless of what audience they were made for, Kenobi, The Acolyte, Boba Fett, The Last Jedi,..... and other stuff put out by Disney have just flat out sucked.
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I'll come back to this to say that I did find the video from Prinze to be funny.

There is no doubt that in the summer of 1977, Star Wars spoke to millions of people in ways that movies really had not done in the past. The 70s saw a lot of ups and downs - Vietnam, Watergate, inflation, gas lines, disco, among other things - that people went to the movie to escape that stuff. Jaws was the first massive box office smash hit in 1975. Star Wars far exceeded that success two years later.

It spoke to me via the WWII-like imagery, for the most part. For others, it might have been the clear "hero's journey, or the inspiration from Kurosawa's films, or even the hints of the Western genre. Star Wars is the movie that made a movie lover of me. Prior to Star Wars, I recall seeing some Godzilla movies (vs Smog Monster or vs Megalon), King Kong 1976, Midway 1976, and some of the Disney animated films such as The Aristocats; I just wasn't that interested in going to the theater. After Star Wars, the movie theater became almost a second home for me. So much so that I got into hot water with my mom when I neglected to call home to tell her that I was going to stay for the second showing of Every Which Way But Loose.

Criticisms of these movies are perfectly fine - and I have plenty of those for the later movies (i.e., the Sequel Trilogy) - but I have always looked side-eyed at people saying these are made just for kids. At the surface level, yes, they are kid's movies. Dig a little deeper and you find themes and ideas that are beyond kid level. I maintain that The Phantom Menace is a vastly underrated Star Wars movie, but because it didn't live up to the unreasonable expectations placed on it by fans who wanted a continuation of the Original Trilogy and because dip****s on the net make videos explaining how it "doesn't work" or what-have-you, it gets crapped on regularly. (And I fully expect someone to respond simply to that line with some reason they hate it - that's great, you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm not going to tell you to lighten up Francis.)

I valued The Phantom Menace as an analogy to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Naziism prior to WWII. Did Lucas make a mistake in starting his saga where he did? That is a fair debate topic. I think it worked to open it as he did because it showed us how life in that galaxy was prior to the war that we all knew was coming. Think of it as life in Europe in the mid-1930s - war clouds are on the horizon but life is going on as it had been. From that viewpoint, TPM worked for me.

But the problem with prequels is that the audience has a built-in idea of what needs to happen, so you're essentially backed into a corner in terms of where you can take the story. In Star Wars, you knew you had to show the Jedi in their heyday, you had to bring together Anakin and whoever the mother (of Luke/Leia) figure would be, you had to get Yoda to Dagobah and Obi-Wan Kenobi to Tatooine, and you had to put the Emperor into power. The only thing I might have added was to give audiences more of the actual Clone Wars - which I likely would have done starting in the final act of Attack of the Clones so as to keep the setup for the Prequel Trilogy as is.
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