"May alter the future of the Force"

I choose to believe this is going to be a time travel movie that wipes out the Sequel Trilogy...

vmiaptetr said:

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I think the new Empire will have found a way to capture the force into a soda can, and sell it to whoever wants it. People will snatch it up because it has electrolytes, and it will create a new race of Super Forcers. Ryan Gosling will challenge a cloned and enhanced Han Solo to a Kessel Run race for the fate of the Galaxy and naming rights to the new Force Soda (example: Yoda Soda).

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Spaceballs did it….

Ok no actually they didn't do it at all but your post conjured up this funny scene and gosh darn it I can't wait for the sequel and to show this to my kids!

ArmyAg2002 said:

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maroon barchetta said:

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What is the deal with Mara Jade being a no-no in Lucas and Disney stories?

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As many people as they've brought out of the EU, not giving us her, Talon Kardde and even C'Baoth is a shame.

Just watched shadow lord…. It almost makes me annoyed at how good that was.

Is Filoni the most bipolar Star Wars guy ever simultaneously bringing us the best and worst Star Wars content?

Shadow lord was pretty straightforward no kiddie filler and great. Every live action and previous thing he touches has so much awful cheesy filler with some good moments. The entire Ashoka storyline was great but then the Ashoka show was a massive let down with the end of the first season being laughably bad. Mandalorian has my favorite moment in a long while but 90% terrible cheesy villain. Clone wars and rebels I understand the meh parts because it is more geared for little kids. This might be the most straightforward no nonsense material we have ever had from him.

nickstro66 said:

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Off-topic but I rewatched Phantom Menace last night and had an idea for a conversation topic. There is a shell of a good movie in there, but obviously it has its flaws.

If you could change something about Phantom Menace to make it a better movie, what would you change?

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Qui-Gon doesn't save Jar Jar from being run over by the trade federation vehicle.

nickstro66 said:

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Off-topic but I rewatched Phantom Menace last night and had an idea for a conversation topic. There is a shell of a good movie in there, but obviously it has its flaws.

If you could change something about Phantom Menace to make it a better movie, what would you change?

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100% Jar Jar. Find a way to tie everything in together as is without Jar Jar.

nickstro66 said:

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Off-topic but I rewatched Phantom Menace last night and had an idea for a conversation topic. There is a shell of a good movie in there, but obviously it has its flaws.

If you could change something about Phantom Menace to make it a better movie, what would you change?

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Opposite of Highlander's "There can be only one" mantra, I have two changes:

- Introduce Anakin as an older, mid-teens kid
- Remove the comic antics from Jar Jar. He still needs to be an idiot, but he doesn't need to behave like a first grade brat.

In all seriousness, as Cinco said, the problem is really Anakin, not Jar-Jar.

1) Find a late teens/early 20s actor who can play a little younger and who will be the face of the franchise for 3 movies.

2) Have him be 15 or 16 and Padme the same or slightly older so it's way less weird and she can feel genuinely attracted to him when he saves her entire planet from the Trade Federation. Imagine him wearing rags and dirty clothing the whole movie (and why don't they give him clean clothes on Coruscant, what the hell?) and then she sees him with the haircut and the Jedi robe at the end. Padme's all about that.

3) Show him on multiple occasions USING THE FORCE without even knowing what the Force is. They could have done so much with that during the Pod Race, especially after Qui-Gon tells Shmi "he can see things before they happen." I have always thought that the biggest miss was not having a scene where he taps into the Force during the pod race and they cut to Qui-Gon feeling it in the crowd, Obi-Wan feeling it back on the Naboo ship, and the real winner, Maul in the desert monitoring his probe droids, and he feels it too, and maybe is even a little freaked out by it - because he knows who the 2 Jedi on planet are, but this is something totally different. They could also have him using the Force to eff with Watto or in the deleted scene where he fights Greedo to give you that early hint of what's to come.

4) When he and R2 take off in the N-1, he should let R2 fly the ship at first, and then realize he can do it faster and better because of his Force skills, and blowing up the control ship isn't a fluke, it's him figuring out something with the Force and taking a crazy, but Force-enhanced shot, just like Luke does in ANH.

I feel better now.

Yeah, I was always annoyed that he accidentally blew up the ship.

Madmarttigan said:

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Just watched shadow lord…. It almost makes me annoyed at how good that was.

Is Filoni the most bipolar Star Wars guy ever simultaneously bringing us the best and worst Star Wars content?

Shadow lord was pretty straightforward no kiddie filler and great. Every live action and previous thing he touches has so much awful cheesy filler with some good moments. The entire Ashoka storyline was great but then the Ashoka show was a massive let down with the end of the first season being laughably bad. Mandalorian has my favorite moment in a long while but 90% terrible cheesy villain. Clone wars and rebels I understand the meh parts because it is more geared for little kids. This might be the most straightforward no nonsense material we have ever had from him.

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I think the answer is simply that Filoni can handle animation but not live action. And most of the animation he's done is truthfully geared towards kids. Even Maul could be watched by kids who think Maul is cool from the Rebels episodes, etc that he's popped up in.

But I think its clear by now that Filoni should not be in charge of ALL SW content.

I was ready to type out all my thoughts on TPM but you covered everything and more in your post. I wish I could deliver more than one blue star.

His mishandling of the end of the Ahsoka storyline should have made him ineligible to head any other Star Wars content.

And give up, "I'll try spinning. That's a good trick".

No way.

CharleyKerfeld said:

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In all seriousness, as Cinco said, the problem is really Anakin, not Jar-Jar.

1) Find a late teens/early 20s actor who can play a little younger and who will be the face of the franchise for 3 movies.

2) Have him be 15 or 16 and Padme the same or slightly older so it's way less weird and she can feel genuinely attracted to him when he saves her entire planet from the Trade Federation. Imagine him wearing rags and dirty clothing the whole movie (and why don't they give him clean clothes on Coruscant, what the hell?) and then she sees him with the haircut and the Jedi robe at the end. Padme's all about that.

3) Show him on multiple occasions USING THE FORCE without even knowing what the Force is. They could have done so much with that during the Pod Race, especially after Qui-Gon tells Shmi "he can see things before they happen." I have always thought that the biggest miss was not having a scene where he taps into the Force during the pod race and they cut to Qui-Gon feeling it in the crowd, Obi-Wan feeling it back on the Naboo ship, and the real winner, Maul in the desert monitoring his probe droids, and he feels it too, and maybe is even a little freaked out by it - because he knows who the 2 Jedi on planet are, but this is something totally different. They could also have him using the Force to eff with Watto or in the deleted scene where he fights Greedo to give you that early hint of what's to come.

4) When he and R2 take off in the N-1, he should let R2 fly the ship at first, and then realize he can do it faster and better because of his Force skills, and blowing up the control ship isn't a fluke, it's him figuring out something with the Force and taking a crazy, but Force-enhanced shot, just like Luke does in ANH.

I feel better now.

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I agree with every bit of this. Implement Anakin's character in this fashion, and I have to believe The Phantom Menace is not raked over the coals every time it's mentioned now.