*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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They've been pretty tight-lipped on this one, and the above reports are the first I've seen of any screenings so far. That said, they're debuting the first full trailer this week at CinemaCon in Las Vegas, for theater owners/press, descriptions will be all over the internet the second it plays, then hopefully the trailer itself will be online in the next month or so. So things will definitely start ratcheting up soon.
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Some Cinemacon trailer teases I have heard

Mystique turns into Yelena
Shang Chi vs Gambit
Doom stops Thor
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Really Disney? "Infinity Vision"? Yeah, that's not gimmicky at all, lol.
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When do you think we'll get to see a trailer for it?!!
there were skittles in there!
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My guess would be with The Mandalorian and Grogu - Disney's next blockbuster release - on May 22. That said, Marvel often releases trailers online a week or even two before they hit theaters, so maybe we see it the first or second weekend of May?
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Ah crap I was hoping it'd be way sooner!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Yeaaaaaah I was really hoping like today lol
Understandable though
Hoping for a surprise release over the next couple of weeks!!!
there were skittles in there!
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Disney publicly released most of the trailers they showed yesterday, the minute each one premiered at CinemaCon. So it probably wouldn't make much sense if they only waited, like, a day or a few days to release the Doomsday trailer online. IMO, they're almost assuredly saving it for May.
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That makes sense!
Can't wait for it to drop!
Thanks!
there were skittles in there!
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I can't tell if this means old, now-reinserted footage they *cut* from End Game - or - if this means they shot *new* footage to insert into End Game. I'm assuming the latter, but super random either way...

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TCTTS said:

I can't tell if this means old, now-reinserted footage they *cut* from End Game - or - if this means they shot *new* footage to insert into End Game. I'm assuming the latter, but super random either way...



They're going to have Tony Stark "go back to his own planet" ala Poochie in the Simpsons and show him turn into Dr. Doom after the Snap.

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This seems like too much. Just leave it alone.
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Agreed.
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When you think about it all, it's not hard to view Marvel as somewhat gimmicky now and reeking of desperation.

Phases 4 and the start of 5 can rightfully be considered lackluster with declining returns. So what do they do?

Go to the well to bring back RDJ, arguably, the biggest draw of phases 1-3. Heck, go to the well some more and just bring back everyone, including the Fox movie's X-men. Screw it, go to the well one more time and splice some "new" footage into Endgame and rerelease it. Then desperately combat not having IMAX by trying to convince the public you've invented "INFINITY VISION"!!!...which is really just some sort of notification system telling viewers which theaters have high defiinition screens.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

When you think about it all, it's not hard to view Marvel as somewhat gimmicky now and reeking of desperation.

Phases 4 and the start of 5 can rightfully be considered lackluster with declining returns. So what do they do?

Go to the well to bring back RDJ, arguably, the biggest draw of phases 1-3. Heck, go to the well some more and just bring back everyone, including the Fox movie's X-men. Screw it, go to the well one more time and splice some "new" footage into Endgame and rerelease it. Then desperately combat not having IMAX by trying to convince the public you've invented "INFINITY VISION"!!!...which is really just some sort of notification system telling viewers which theaters have high defiinition screens.

Everything since Endgame minus a small handful of titles has been awful. Their big bad ruins his career and becomes a liability. Then they go out and get RDJ to be their new big bad. Then they bring back Chris Evans.

Anyone who though this wasn't desperation from the very first announcement is living in another world.
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Everything since Endgame minus a small handful of titles has been awful.


I'm going to be a Marvel shill for a sec and object to this line (though your overall point stands). I think most things post-Endgame have been good enough, with a few great and some subpar to bad. "Awful" I'd reserve for Secret Invasion and Echo, which may as well not exist (and don't, in my mind).

The main problem is that there's freakin' 54 movies or seasons of shows in the MCU, and if it isn't great, it becomes forgettable. And since it isn't pre-Endgame, it isn't put on a pedestal like the first three phases (as though there weren't plenty of serviceable-but-forgettable films there, like Ant-Man and the Wasp, Thor the Dark World, Iron Man 2 and 3, Captain America 1, Incredible Hulk, etc).

Guardians 3, Spider-Man Far From Home and No Way Home, Hawkeye, WandaVison, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Loki S1, Deadpool & Wolverine, Werewolf by Night… I think you could put those up against the Infinity Saga and they'd be ranked pretty highly. The rest may pepper the mid-to-low tiers but I think they're still way better than Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk (except for a few clunkers).

Skeptical about Doomsday, to be clear, but I've still enjoyed most post-Endgame things, even with the flaws we've all discussed. There's still way more good than bad.
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Guys, Thor 2 is absolute cinema and not in the absolute dog**** of phase 4 and 5

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rhutton125 said:

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Everything since Endgame minus a small handful of titles has been awful.


I'm going to be a Marvel shill for a sec and object to this line (though your overall point stands). I think most things post-Endgame have been good enough, with a few great and some subpar to bad. "Awful" I'd reserve for Secret Invasion and Echo, which may as well not exist (and don't, in my mind).

The main problem is that there's freakin' 54 movies or seasons of shows in the MCU, and if it isn't great, it becomes forgettable. And since it isn't pre-Endgame, it isn't put on a pedestal like the first three phases (as though there weren't plenty of serviceable-but-forgettable films there, like Ant-Man and the Wasp, Thor the Dark World, Iron Man 2 and 3, Captain America 1, Incredible Hulk, etc).

Guardians 3, Spider-Man Far From Home and No Way Home, Hawkeye, WandaVison, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Loki S1, Deadpool & Wolverine, Werewolf by Night… I think you could put those up against the Infinity Saga and they'd be ranked pretty highly. The rest may pepper the mid-to-low tiers but I think they're still way better than Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk (except for a few clunkers).

Skeptical about Doomsday, to be clear, but I've still enjoyed most post-Endgame things, even with the flaws we've all discussed. There's still way more good than bad.


I didn't not enjoy Guardians 3 anywhere close to the first 2, which I stop and watch almost anytime they are on. Dont feel any need to rewatch #3.

Don't know why Captain America 1 doesn't get more love, always really liked that one.
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TXAG 05 said:

rhutton125 said:

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Everything since Endgame minus a small handful of titles has been awful.


I'm going to be a Marvel shill for a sec and object to this line (though your overall point stands). I think most things post-Endgame have been good enough, with a few great and some subpar to bad. "Awful" I'd reserve for Secret Invasion and Echo, which may as well not exist (and don't, in my mind).

The main problem is that there's freakin' 54 movies or seasons of shows in the MCU, and if it isn't great, it becomes forgettable. And since it isn't pre-Endgame, it isn't put on a pedestal like the first three phases (as though there weren't plenty of serviceable-but-forgettable films there, like Ant-Man and the Wasp, Thor the Dark World, Iron Man 2 and 3, Captain America 1, Incredible Hulk, etc).

Guardians 3, Spider-Man Far From Home and No Way Home, Hawkeye, WandaVison, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Loki S1, Deadpool & Wolverine, Werewolf by Night… I think you could put those up against the Infinity Saga and they'd be ranked pretty highly. The rest may pepper the mid-to-low tiers but I think they're still way better than Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk (except for a few clunkers).

Skeptical about Doomsday, to be clear, but I've still enjoyed most post-Endgame things, even with the flaws we've all discussed. There's still way more good than bad.


I didn't not enjoy Guardians 3 anywhere close to the first 2, which I stop and watch almost anytime they are on. Dont feel any need to rewatch #3.

Don't know why Captain America 1 doesn't get more love, always really liked that one.

Cap 1 is a really good movie IMO. Guardians 3 is just really heavy. All of the Rocket animal torture scenes weigh heavy. Although it is the best Nathan Fillion we get before Guy Gardner.



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Captain America 1

I find this one to be an incredibly under-ranked/under-valued entry in the MCU. We learned everything about Steve Rogers' character in this movie, and all of that was present pre-Vita Ray-treatment. The movie features some awesome action sequences, from the streets of Brooklyn and the munitions plant where Cap rescues Bucky, to the infiltration of the train to get the Nazi scientist (where Bucky apparently dies, setting the stage for 70 years later in The Winter Soldier), and Cap's infiltration of the giant flying wing where he finally faces off against Red Skull.

Directed by Joe Johnston, who got his start as an effects artist working on movies such as Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark, who worked on the design of Boba Fett, and then went on to direct movies such as Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, The Rocketeer, Jumanji, and Jurassic Park III.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

When you think about it all, it's not hard to view Marvel as somewhat gimmicky now and reeking of desperation.

Phases 4 and the start of 5 can rightfully be considered lackluster with declining returns. So what do they do?

Go to the well to bring back RDJ, arguably, the biggest draw of phases 1-3. Heck, go to the well some more and just bring back everyone, including the Fox movie's X-men. Screw it, go to the well one more time and splice some "new" footage into Endgame and rerelease it. Then desperately combat not having IMAX by trying to convince the public you've invented "INFINITY VISION"!!!...which is really just some sort of notification system telling viewers which theaters have high defiinition screens.

Everything since Endgame minus a small handful of titles has been awful. Their big bad ruins his career and becomes a liability. Then they go out and get RDJ to be their new big bad. Then they bring back Chris Evans.

Anyone who though this wasn't desperation from the very first announcement is living in another world.


JFC, the MCU multiverse has now broken the fourth wall and all of us fans have to now deal with it in real life, too?
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Saxsoon said:

Guys, Thor 2 is absolute cinema and not in the absolute dog**** of phase 4 and 5

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Thor 2 is pretty bad, which puts it on par with most of Phase 4.
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The first Cap America movie is one of my faves from the first 3 phases. Great movie, perfectly designed for the character it's introducing, and is why his arc ending in Endgame has such impact.
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Cap 1 is good. Sounds like a permaban is in order for rhutton.
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Cap 1 is good character work for Cap and Peggy but the action is poor and most of the other characters (including Bucky!) are paper thin. Red Skull is great until the fake skin comes off and then he's a caricature (ex: pulling up in a car, yelling and pounding his steering wheel in anger)

They said they wanted the shield throws to be special so he only does it like 3 times in the whole movie. So a lot of the action is just big slow punches. It took Winter Soldier to come along and do Cap action right.
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TCTTS said:



I'm curious how much draw Reynolds is going to have after all the Blake Lively dust settles.
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All for Deadpool as a side character.
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As a casual observer, I don't give a crap if one celebrity got offended by something another celebrity said or how they got parodied in a movie.

Nothing involving that situation will make me decide whether or not to see a Ryan Reynolds movie.
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fig96 said:

TCTTS said:



I'm curious how much draw Reynolds is going to have after all the Blake Lively dust settles.


Disney owns Deadpool so I'm not sure why Reynolds is saying he may not make it a central character again. Disney is going to do what it wants to.
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