C@LAg said:

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YouBet said:

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Didn't realize we were getting Red Hulk.

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MAGA HULK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


literally.

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Considering who plays him...that is so delicious. lol.

I think Florence Pugh already is

From what I've read, the Thunderbolts have a role in either Doomsday, Secret Wars, or both. So hopefully we get that forward momentum vibe, that feels like it's setting up something even bigger.

So Harrison Ford is red hulk? Does hulk age the same way as a human? He's got like 10 years left.

C@LAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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As solid as Brave New World looks, I'm just blown away by Thuderbolts*. In terms of the more grounded, non-space/alien/creature movies, it legit looks like it might feature some of the best action/fight choreography in the entire MCU. Throw in some Guardians of the Galaxy-esque humor, along with some slight Winter Soldier vibes, and never in a million years did I think I would be this excited for this thing.

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from the leaks, many confirmed by these two trailers, the plot of Thunderbolts is a much stronger overall

the frustrating thing about both is the endings just do not have the impact nor forward momentum we had with winter soldier, and that frustrates me because that is what I want. But i guess it does not need to exist given however they are planning to move into the two avengers movies. whatever that is.

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Okay to be fair, Winter Solider showed that Hydra controlled SHIELD, and literally blew up everything that made the Avengers "legit".

Outside of The Snap I don't think they had a bigger "moment" in the MCU. I don't think it is reasonable to do things like that very often.

...on another note it reminds me... I realized that I like when movies don't do a whole lot in the MCU. I want them to explore the world they've created sometimes. As great as Endgame was, and tried to give us a look at life inside a post-snap world, it was only about 90 minutes until they started the heist. We've had a few flashbacks that help fill in the gaps, but basically they've brushed off 5 years to "get back to the story".

They do a good job of creating worlds. Is it so bad when you end in the same place you started?

Quad Dog said:

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Great use of The Toadies

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That's the pixies, brother.

I definitely watched a version on my TV with the pixies like 20 minutes ago. Didn't watch the one in the thread. Y'all are right. My bad.

If the Toadies wasn't in my top 10 bands, I would have self doubted because its not like you to be so confidently wrong on something like that.

Alright not gonna lie. B-Team Avengers looks pretty damn fun. Way better than I was expecting.

C@LAg said:

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Sea Speed said:

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So Harrison Ford is red hulk? Does hulk age the same way as a human? He's got like 10 years left.

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Hulk is immortal.

Red Hulk... not yet written into his character

but teh good thing is Red Hulk almost NEVER reverts back to Ross.

Ford could sign a post mortem agreement with Disney for future Red Hulk appearances (let's be real, that is not Ford doing that strenuous motion capture), and allow AI voice for say... $30MM a pop for X number of appearances.

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The big action sequences aren't as much mocap anyway, it's much more effective for subtle facial stuff and acting moments.

Really pulling for Thunderbolts to be great. Love David Harbour in Stranger Things and want him to blow up big after Hellboy flopped and Black Widow had to deal with COVID box office. Him and Bucky together looks great.


John Walker's US Agent is the sarcastic a-hole that Marvel has been sorely missing for a long time.

Really like the expansive tech they've given Cap in the new trailer, because even as a top 1% of the world athlete, the Former Falcon is just a guy, no super powers.
I have to be honest, red hulk seems really dumb to me, both as a character and as part of the plot.

Holding out hope for cameos by either Bruhl as Zemo or my multiverse girlfriend Emily Van Camp as Sharon Carter.

Carter almost has to show up somewhere as the quasi-new hydra type working for the Feds again.

Thunderbolts looks awesome. In.

Have we found out what the "*" in the title means?

MooreTrucker said:

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Have we found out what the "*" in the title means?

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Temporary because they will become the new Avengers.

Total speculation.

Or, it's a joke based on the team's own reluctance to use the name.

The latter is how I took it.