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I agree about almost being on the fence due to how forthcoming and at ease he seems when he talks, although im convinced he killed her as well. I noticed how black his eyes are too. Creepy dude. Fascinating show.

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Dude also has a tell. He squint blinks after every lie he states in an interview.

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I thought the same thing at first about having a tell, but then I noticed him doing it after the easy questions too. Think it's just a twitch he has

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As a master interrogator (woman) I think I can see a tell.

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His case about the dismemberment seemed to be more about that it was a desperate move by someone painted into a corner by an evil yankee prosecutor vs. something he did in an instant of panic. His defense team basically turned Pirro into a monster to explain why he was in Galveston under such weird circumstances and why he would be afraid to go to the authorities, and the nimrod jury bought it.

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Did anyone catch the line by one of his lawyers at the trial - "If Pirro had just kept her mouth shut, none of this would have happened"? Man, that was ballsy

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Deguerin knows his audience. One thing your typical Texan hates more than a murderer is a New York liberal.

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Did anyone catch the line by one of his lawyers at the trial - "If Pirro had just kept her mouth shut, none of this would have happened"? Man, that was ballsy

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such a bull**** statement. I think DeGuerin is ****ing up here. there is no way he believes Bob is not guilty and I get that's his job, but to release that guy back out is just ****ed up, I"m sorry, but it is.

Gee Dick, maybe if your sicko client wasn't a serial killer none of this would've happened. To blame this on a DA or such is bull****.

I think it was actually the other older lawyer who made that comment, but I may be wrong.

It is a bull**** statement, but they are being paid millions to get that guy acquitted. They had a strategy, and they knew they had to really stand by it and make it stick.

That statement was totally crazy, but it kept with the boogieman(or woman) storyline.

also. here's a VERY interesting interview with the judge from the Galveston case...

http://mashable.com/2015/03/16/galveston-judge-durst-acquittal-dangerous/

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I could see early on that there was a danger that the state was going to lose ... The state walked in not prepared and they didn't think they had to be. They did not think about what to ask each witness including him and questions to ask jurors or to pick the best jurors for their case. They [the defense] had two mock trials they had gone through.

You could tell when they [the state] were asking him [Durst] questions, they were doing it off the cuff. They spent three days cross examining him taking turns because both lawyers had the flu. They forgot to ask him, "Where did you put the head?" The head was never recovered.

You had to have the bullet wound. There was no bullet wound on the rest of the body and that was the cause of death, a shot to the back of head. They also didn't challenge anything the defense said. There was evidence we had during pretrial hearings that they did not try to introduce tape-recorded phone conversations from jail in which he said things that were incriminating that showed an inclination to lie at trial. Similar to what he did on the TV series. I think at some point
the state realized, "Oh my gosh, things aren't going as we expected" and they gave up and wanted to it be done and they were intimidated by the defense lawyers. It sort of looked to me that they were throwing in the towel.

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I suspect now in hindsight some of the jurors may have had ulterior motives as some do in extremely high-profile trials where you know you have national media showing up. One of the jurors befriended him after the trial and began visiting him in the jail and going to dinner with
him after he got out of jail. The male juror, Chris Lovell, interviewed in the TV series. He has been one of his [Durst's] best spokesmen ever since trial.

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To me, the key to all these high profile trials is PICKING THE RIGHT JURY. Then, a good story really helps. But I don't think I would have been convinced he wasn't guilty.

I do think the prosecutor was like, hey he cut him up, we don't need to prepare. Which was stupid when you are facing the best lawyers in the state.

You could see clips of the prosecutors losing their cool with Durst. No, the prosecutors are supposed to stay cool and rile Durst up, not the other way around.

That one male juror has come out this week and said he is totally innocent. Just like the morons on the OJ jury.

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They forgot to ask him, "Where did you put the head?"

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Wow. I thought it was weird they didn't show it in the documentary, but the thought never even crossed my mind that the DA literally forgot to ask him about it.

The small town boys weren't ready for the type of defense that much money can buy.

Yeah, even watching the snippets, it really came off to me that the defense was so prepared, and not only for how to go forward in their defense, but they knew what the prosecution would do once they got all jumbled up. They were so ready for so many different scenarios.

Meanwhile, the prosecution walked in thinking they had an open and shut case, and weren't ready for anything. Brilliant strategy to come out and put Durst on the body, admit to cutting it, then claim self defense and immediately put him on the stand. Just completely dominated.

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I suspect now in hindsight some of the jurors may have had ulterior motives as some do in extremely high-profile trials where you know you have national media showing up. One of the jurors befriended him after the trial and began visiting him in the jail and going to dinner with
him after he got out of jail. The male juror, Chris Lovell, interviewed in the TV series. He has been one of his [Durst's] best spokesmen ever since trial.

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Yep. It's 50/50 either money, or he's just one of those guys who wanted a bit of fame and to feel important.

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I suspect now in hindsight some of the jurors may have had ulterior motives as some do in extremely high-profile trials where you know you have national media showing up. One of the jurors befriended him after the trial and began visiting him in the jail and going to dinner with
him after he got out of jail. The male juror, Chris Lovell, interviewed in the TV series. He has been one of his [Durst's] best spokesmen ever since trial.

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This is insane. Like something out of Law and Order.

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I suspect now in hindsight some of the jurors may have had ulterior motives as some do in extremely high-profile trials where you know you have national media showing up. One of the jurors befriended him after the trial and began visiting him in the jail and going to dinner with
him after he got out of jail. The male juror, Chris Lovell, interviewed in the TV series. He has been one of his [Durst's] best spokesmen ever since trial.

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Money or no money, Mr. Lovell has blood on his hands imo.

wasn't just him. If you listen to what he said in the show, there were never more than 3 people who had guilty the entire time.

And what he said was right...they weren't there to decide whether or not he killed the guy, Durst admitted to it. They were there to decide if he's guilty of murder in the 1st degree. And the state completely butchered(pun intended) the case.

I'm not going to blame an idiotic jury when the state failed to prepare for what Durst brought to the table for a defense team.

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I suspect now in hindsight some of the jurors may have had ulterior motives as some do in extremely high-profile trials where you know you have national media showing up. One of the jurors befriended him after the trial and began visiting him in the jail and going to dinner with
him after he got out of jail. The male juror, Chris Lovell, interviewed in the TV series. He has been one of his [Durst's] best spokesmen ever since trial.

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Money or no money, Mr. Lovell has blood on his hands imo.

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Lovell is an idiot, but how does he have blood on his hands? Lovell didn't kill anyone and as far as we know, Durst hasn't killed anyone since that trial either.

Blood may be too strong a word, but every member of that jury let a killer go free in the face of overwhelming evidence. That would haunt me for the rest of my days knowing that Susan Berman would still be alive ( and who knows how many others) if the jury had put him away in galveston.

And The jury's reasoning carries no weight to me. When you spend enough time around criminal cases, you recognize when someone is justifying it to themselves to help them sleep at night.

Cutting up a body after a self defense claim is more than enough evidence for a conviction. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.

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Blood may be too strong a word, but every member of that jury let a killer go free in the face of overwhelming evidence. That would haunt me for the rest of my days knowing that Susan Berman would still be alive ( and who knows how many others) if the jury had put him away in galveston.

And The jury's reasoning carries no weight to me. When you spend enough time around criminal cases, you recognize when someone is justifying it to themselves to help them sleep at night.

Cutting up a body after a self defense claim is more than enough evidence for a conviction. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.

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I agree with your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, but Berman was murdered before the Galveston murder, so she is dead either way.

My mistake about Berman then. My point was more to the guilt associated with letting a killer go free, which would be compounded if he killed again. I think that it is likely he killed again after Galveston, but was wrong on the timeline. Still, Morris Black will never get justice.

I'm pretty pragmatic. If I were a juror on the Galveston case, I'd have had a REALLY tough time finding him guilty of murder based on the evidence presented in the court. I wouldn't have necessarily bought the story of Durst like that nut Lovell did, but at least based on the limited knowledge I have through the video and the judge/attorney interviews afterward, I'd have a tough time convicting someone of murder in that trial.

Right. Berman was dead before Galveston, along with all of the other murdered and missing where Durst is considered a possibility. Now it's possible there is blood on his hands because I can't rule out the possibility that a nutjob like Durst offed someone else since. But nothing so far indicates that. It' also possible age, spending a few years in the clink at Galveston, the close call in Galveston, and receiving widespread notoriety during the Galveston have all combined to keep him from killing anyone.

I'm perfectly fine with the NO DA locking him away for guns and drugs and letting him die in jail. I'll call it getting Capowned.

Btw, homeboy had 8 ounces of weed on him. He was definitely planning to be off the grid for a little while.

the crap thing here is, most likely he's dead within a year or so, either by his own hand or illness.

I brought up suicide to a buddy and he said that Durst is too proud for that. We will see.

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the crap thing here is, most likely he's dead within a year or so, either by his own hand or illness.

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At which point westchester DA builds their case against Dougie for obstruction of justice and conspiracy...

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the crap thing here is, most likely he's dead within a year or so, either by his own hand or illness.

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At which point westchester DA builds their case against Dougie for obstruction of justice and conspiracy...

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There is a reason that Doug won't talk and it scared out of his mind

No one, and I mean NO ONE, is going after Doug, or anyone else with the family or company. They are way too powerful, and most likely have used extremely bright legal minds dating back to before Bob's first wife disappeared, to make sure there is nothing that can get any of them.

What are the suspicions around Doug? That they know where the wife is?

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What are the suspicions around Doug? That they know where the wife is?

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That the Durst Corp/family helped Robert cover things up and really knows what happened to Robert's wife.

I don't know if there are suspicions with him. I'm just saying, even if there were, no prosecutor would even consider taking down a NYC giant like that family. Too much power and money.

IMO, based purely off the story and the film, people at the company know or have some idea of what happened to his first wife, or at least suspected it. I'm sure they know a TON of crazy ass stuff that Robert had done over the years, some criminal, other just really weird. I'm also sure they had attorneys protect him, get him out of situations etc...then after years of him screwing up, they waited for him to make a mistake in the office to start separating themselves from him.

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I brought up suicide to a buddy and he said that Durst is too proud for that. We will see.

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actually, I sort of agree with this and almost said that in my post, but remember, he's always gotten away with it, so he's never really had to face a life in prison, so things might change if that happens. these types are usually the biggest cowards. remember that guy who held those women for 10 years? ****er killed himself barely a few weeks in. COWARDS.

But Durst has spent time in jail, and a decently significant amount of time(months). Remember how he speaks about his time in there? It may not all be true, but IMO he'll just enjoy being a celebrity in jail, find a niche of prisoners, and live out his years.

If he dies, I think it would be via natural causes. He doesn't exactly look well, so it might not be a real long time. Otherwise, I agree that he'll enjoy somewhat of a celebrity status in prison.

They should've just thrown him in the bayou so the gators there could rip him to pieces. You know, in self defense.

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the crap thing here is, most likely he's dead within a year or so, either by his own hand or illness.

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At which point westchester DA builds their case against Dougie for obstruction of justice and conspiracy...

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Yesssss. Excellllent. /burns