I'm going with the First Lady. Definitely a couple different layers going on. This last episode makes you wonder about McLeish's wife

Can Jack Bauer go back to Fox for 24 please?

Last night was good stuff, but it raised a question for me.... Why was Hannah so adamant on not telling the FBI what she knew when she was arrested?

tandy miller said:

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Last night was good stuff, but it raised a question for me.... Why was Hannah so adamant on not telling the FBI what she knew when she was arrested?

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You know, the whole global conspiracy/don't trust anyone thing? That's probably why.

Completely forgot about this show during its ridiculous 3-month midseason hiatus, but just got caught back up and...holy crap! If you wrote this show off during the break, do yourself a favor and keep watching.

Yep, just caught up the other night as well and was pleasantly surprised with how it picked up. Very interested to see how it all plays out. I have my theories, but if you gave up on it, definitely catch up. The last 2 episodes I think are the best ones of the season so far.

This show isn't 24 good, but the last 2 episodes, especially the last one is almost becoming as good as 24.

I prefer Jack Bauer in 24.

It definitely requires a complete suspension of disbelief, especially the most recent episode, but if you can get past the part where you say "that would never happen in real life because ________" every week, it's a great show.

J.P. 03 said:

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It definitely requires a complete suspension of disbelief, especially the most recent episode, but if you can get past the part where you say "that would never happen in real life because ________" every week, it's a great show.

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yep

was thinking the other night "Why did FBI lady run out there? VP was still talking. He has a secret service detail. They could pick him up at any time. Also, why doesn't the 2nd Lady have a SS detail? Is it normal for the 2nd lady to just be able to leave the house at night without an escort?

anyways, great episode, was not expecting that ending.

Presley OBannons Sword said:

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Villain will be white nationalist NRA members. Typical Hollywood military will be warmongering blowhards kept in check by smarter, better civilians. Some Muslim will be a suspect but end up saving the day and/or being a sympathetic character. Globalism and big government will prevail.

Bookmark it.

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How am I looking? Don't watch the show.

Presley OBannons Sword said:

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Presley OBannons Sword said:

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Villain will be white nationalist NRA members. Typical Hollywood military will be warmongering blowhards kept in check by smarter, better civilians. Some Muslim will be a suspect but end up saving the day and/or being a sympathetic character. Globalism and big government will prevail.

Bookmark it.

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How am I looking? Don't watch the show.

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we don't know yet.

Well, we do know that Muslim terror suspect was a red herring and that the first layer of bad guys were former US military who apparently committed atrocities in Afghanistan (or was it Iraq), so the guess is looking pretty good so far.

To be fair, though, it's Hollywood in the 2010's, so it's not hard to guess that the bad guys are much more likely to be white than brown.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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J.P. 03 said:

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It definitely requires a complete suspension of disbelief, especially the most recent episode, but if you can get past the part where you say "that would never happen in real life because ________" every week, it's a great show.

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yep

was thinking the other night "Why did FBI lady run out there? VP was still talking. He has a secret service detail. They could pick him up at any time. Also, why doesn't the 2nd Lady have a SS detail? Is it normal for the 2nd lady to just be able to leave the house at night without an escort?

anyways, great episode, was not expecting that ending.

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The main Secret Service guy (Mike?) said that he has brought the VP's detail in and told them to give the VP a wide berth if he asked for it. I am pretty sure they knew what was going on to an extent.

Still liking this show, but in this week's episode of "that would never happen in real life," the freaking Vice President is murdered by his own wife who then kills herself, and the President decides the best way to tell the nation is to walk into a normal press briefing in a sweater, drop that bombshell on the assembled reporters, and then move on with his day? Just a hunch, but that one just might call for putting on a tie and setting up a TV camera in the Oval Office.

(And yes, I realize the entire show is based on a premise that would probably never happen in real life, but still...these are fun to point out. It has the potential to be like the "Where's Henry?" game on The Americans show threads.)

Guns are bad

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Well, I got caught up to the episode First 100 Days. Crap, looks like the writers are going to force their libtopia views on anyone choosing to watch. The politics crap was flat-out boring. I was more interested in the FBI gal hunting down that woman who killed the director's son.

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To me it seems like they are trying to purposely not have the show be too much like 24 with non-stop action. They are laying the politics and drama on thick, which to me doesn't really seem to fit because after all, it's Jack Bauer, Kiefer Sutherland.

I enjoyed the political stuff but eye rolled when they made the Republican the bad guy of the episode. Even if I do agree that guns are our right but we could use a semblance of a background check

I'm enjoying as well but they've now killed every person who's been known to be associated with the bombing.

Wish they would've kept this lady around just so there was a personification of the "villain" we're chasing. To be fair I
Wouldn't be shocked to discover some other regular character is involved.

Or Emily who has been made to look way to green and innocent so far. Literally nothing bad has been pointed her way yet and she has been directly involved in moving up the ladder to be close enough to keep tabs on what is going on.

Lol at this episode. FBI lady travels to coordinates in North Dakota without doing any reconnaissance and looks like a fool when there's no buildings there.

5 secs on Google maps would've clued her in to dig deeper.

I feel like the show is getting a little hokey, especially with all the political stuff story lines

Guns are bad

chipotle said:

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Guns are bad

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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where they go with this nominally "independent" POTUS. I watch the show with my kids because it's entertaining enough, clean enough, and has given us the opportunity to talk about some interesting topics. But they definitely seem to be getting more political, and not just in terms of plot but actually taking sides.

They have tried to paint the POTUS as independent, and went to some length to say he's "pro Second Amendment," or at least not against it, but never gave any reasons as to why someone would be against background checks (won't work to deter the violence they're seeking to deter, death of Second Amendment by a thousand cuts, etc.) while giving all the talking points why someone would be for background checks. It was clearly "Red team bad/evil/selfish," "Blue team good/just/selfless."

And that's fine, as long as you have this supposedly independent POTUS flip and be against a democratic hot button issue in the near future. But previews for next week seemed to show the R's trying to stonewall his SCOTUS pick, so that's looking like a trend of where this show is heading. And that's too bad, if that's the case, because they had managed not to be too stereotypically Hollywood politically up to this point.

The whole underlying premise, of a terrorist plot that took down the government and to which the conspirators will take their own lives instead of being captured, which doesn't involve Islamic Jihadists, is pretty hokey to begin with. The big reveal is likely to be very disappointing and seems likely to involve right wing military/industrial complex villains. I don't know that I will be able to stomach getting preached to politically every week while heading toward that presumptive end.

Just catching up....so it's freezing winter in DC, but spring in North Dakota?

This is my pick!

This show is slowly jumping the shark for me. Sad because early on I think it showed a lot of promise

I've been watching Quantico and this series and they have simultaneously turned me off with their not so hidden agendas. Designated survivor is more tolerable but Quantico went way too far in highlighting their political stance for my taste.