aTmAg said:
TCTTS said:
I wasn't talking about this, specific instance anymore. I was clearly talking about your demeanor/habits in general. That, and you could have fooled me with these "opinions" of yours, when they're clearly stated in such a way as to imply fact. It doesn't sound like it's your opinion that this movie would be better with your suggestions. Rather, your words make it sound like the movie HAS to be the way you're suggesting, or that it WILL, in fact, be a failure.
And yep, despite doing exactly what I want to be doing in life, being beyond excited with where things are heading in that regard, having a great group of friends, a great family, and an all around comfortable and content life... you got me. The only reason I could possibly have the thoughts I do about this subject and others can only be because I'm "angry at the world." Come on, man. Give me a break. You're above that.
Perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror. You have shown to be every bit as confident and unmovable in many of your opinions as I am in many of mine. For example, regarding how left leaning Hollywood is, you are every bit as convinced that they only slightly lean left as I am convinced that they lean WAY left. You state with 100% certainty that you are correct, that I am wrong, and that I have no idea what I am talking about. On that, your opinion is indisputable fact as far as you are concerned. That is no different than me and my opinion on socialism vs capitalism. Anybody who who is pro-socialism is wrong as hell and I will argue that for 100 pages if I have to. I suspect the reason we are somewhat contentious is that we are alike in that we will argue things that we are passionate about for 100 pages.
The reason it seems that I am this way on everything is because I don't post about things I'm luke warm about. Unlike Tanya, I don't have time or inclination to post on threads about my shoes, about what I had for breakfast, or other mundane crap. I post on something because I think I have something to say. This thread got my attention because I am a space aficionado. I lived it my entire childhood (a family friend died in the Challenger accident, for example). Early on I was 100% on board and excited about it. This last bit of news has made me less excited. At the moment, I will still see it, but my expectations are not as high as they were a month ago.
Except here's the thing... you constantly stereotype and reduce my opinions and positions to fit some kind of preconceived narrative that's easier for you to argue against. Case in point, I'm not "convinced" that Hollywood "only slightly leans left." I've literally never said that. There are of course many, many, many massively influential liberals in Hollywood who lean HARD left. But then there are plenty more execs and what not who only lean a little left. And then there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of lower-level, below-the-line guys who are probably an equal split of liberal and conservative. And yet, to complicate matters further, there are influential types who lean conservative as well, especially in the agency world. Same with actors/notable faces. The usual suspects of conservative actors that you see and hear from aren't the only ones. My ONLY points have ever been that...
A) Yes, the faces who mostly, by-and-large represent Hollywood are big-time liberals. And a decent chunk of them are the worst of the worst in terms of assh*les. But the massive body of individuals who actually make up "Hollywood" is MUCH more diverse than you think. I'm here. I live it. I see it everyday. It's not
just a bunch wine sipping liberals trying push their socialist agenda. Not by a long shot.
B) Not everyone - even the most obnoxious liberals in this business - put their "agendas" in their work, or are even capable of doing so if they wanted to. Like I've said a dozen times before, doing so is WAY harder than you might think. I'm not saying that messages don't slip through, or sometimes aren't intended loud and clear by the more powerful of the bunch, but it's not the free-for-all circle jerk of wanting and easily succeeding in producing agenda-based content that so many here desperately want it to be and want to rail against.
My problem is that you NEVER listen to the nuance of what I'm saying. Instead, you CONSTANTLY try to fit me into some preconceived notion that makes it easier for you to tear down in your white-night pursuit of trying to vanquish all these horrible Hollywood liberals. And the fact that you choose an
entertainment message board to do this, where, for the most part, we just want to talk movies and TV without all that sword and flag waiving, makes it all the more obnoxious. Especially when you're trying so hard to tear down these people and their projects without the faintest idea of how many good, hard-working people who would likely agree with you could be affected by boycotts, uproar, and the like. Granted, it's rare that any kind of message board boycott or bigger social media push ever works in any distinct way, but all this chest puffing and shouting down of celebrities you disagree with doesn't
just affect those celebrities. All these proclamations of "I'm not going to see that because I disagree with so-and-so" is also a proclamation against the thousand other people who ALSO worked on that movie - again, many of whom are likely on your "side."