Facelift was released aug 1990, and it went gold in 1990. It was also the first grunge album to go platinum, and first grunge album to reach the top 50 in America on the Billboard 200.free_mhayden said:
'Ten' took almost half a year to hit Gold.
'Nevermind' did it in 2 months.
There's really no debate on what band made grunge mainstream.
Well, I didn't mean "how could he do this with some big shows coming up". Ugh.AggieOO said:
someone who is depressed enough to kill themselves is not thinking about repercussions for anything. And if they did, I doubt repercussions from a couple festivals would even make the list.
They should just replace them with Candlebox...what could go wrong?Aust Ag said:Well, I didn't mean "how could he do this with some big shows coming up". Ugh.AggieOO said:
someone who is depressed enough to kill themselves is not thinking about repercussions for anything. And if they did, I doubt repercussions from a couple festivals would even make the list.
I meant this effects gigs huge festivals coming up where they are headlining, so this throws a big wrench into all that. Tons of tickets sold on the promise of Soundgarden.
The festival on Saturday (pointfest) is totally canceled.Aust Ag said:Well, I didn't mean "how could he do this with some big shows coming up". Ugh.AggieOO said:
someone who is depressed enough to kill themselves is not thinking about repercussions for anything. And if they did, I doubt repercussions from a couple festivals would even make the list.
I meant this effects gigs huge festivals coming up where they are headlining, so this throws a big wrench into all that. Tons of tickets sold on the promise of Soundgarden.
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They should just replace them with Candlebox...what could go wrong?
My thoughts from the gen board thread:Ghost91 said:
Does this smell funny to anyone else?
They ruled it suicide by hanging, yet he was found on the bathroom floor with a "band" around his neck.
Wife says they just talked on the phone and he seemed happy and was talking about stuff the next day. And yes, I know that people who commit suicide sometimes seem fine, etc.
He does this right in the middle of a tour. I'm no expert, but it seems like most suicide - especially celebrity suicides - happen when the person is in some period of downtime. Doing this while on the road, in a hotel, knowing you're leaving a mess for someone to find, etc....
I get that any one of the above can be picked apart, but just seems like the totality of circumstance here is strange. I'm just gonna say it - wouldn't be surprised if this was another accidental death by autoerotic asphyxiation.
tysker said:I wouldnt disagree because all of the grunge-era bands crossed genres so very well and weren't afraid to wear their influences on their sleeves. Not to oversimplify it but the guitar-solo metal kids had AIC. The doom/sludge metal kids had Soundgarden. The punk/noise rock fans had Nirvana and the classic rock kids had PJ. Grunge music allowed us fans to also be unabashed fans of Led Zeppelin, the Melvins, Megadeth, Sonic Youth, Iggy Pop, Black Sabbath, and the Pixies, all at the same time.spanky said:Same would say the same about AIC and Facelifttysker said:
Soundgarden was the band that made it ok for the metalheads to like grunge/rock music and vice versa. You could almost put Outshined, Slaves & Bulldozers, Mailman, and Fourth of July on any sludge-metal album and they'd fit right in.
If you're referencing the Metallica tour where they replaced AiC as the opener, bravo...spanky said:They should just replace them with Candlebox...what could go wrong?Aust Ag said:Well, I didn't mean "how could he do this with some big shows coming up". Ugh.AggieOO said:
someone who is depressed enough to kill themselves is not thinking about repercussions for anything. And if they did, I doubt repercussions from a couple festivals would even make the list.
I meant this effects gigs huge festivals coming up where they are headlining, so this throws a big wrench into all that. Tons of tickets sold on the promise of Soundgarden.
Ghost91 said:
Does this smell funny to anyone else?
He does this right in the middle of a tour. I'm no expert, but it seems like most suicide - especially celebrity suicides - happen when the person is in some period of downtime. Doing this while on the road, in a hotel, knowing you're leaving a mess for someone to find, etc....
Yep, Suicidal Tendencies was also on the bill...no pun intended. Think there was another tour with RATM maybe, where we got The Roots as the replacement for AIC.Whos Juan said:If you're referencing the Metallica tour where they replaced AiC as the opener, bravo...spanky said:They should just replace them with Candlebox...what could go wrong?Aust Ag said:Well, I didn't mean "how could he do this with some big shows coming up". Ugh.AggieOO said:
someone who is depressed enough to kill themselves is not thinking about repercussions for anything. And if they did, I doubt repercussions from a couple festivals would even make the list.
I meant this effects gigs huge festivals coming up where they are headlining, so this throws a big wrench into all that. Tons of tickets sold on the promise of Soundgarden.
we know each other well, and I don't in any way disagree with Cornell being nothing short of amazing on vocals. That said, I think Maynard is better.Whos Juan said:
I probably can't say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread, but we lost the greatest vocalist of our generation last night.
if we're judging who had better mysterious cryptic lyrics, then sure Maynard wins.AggieOO said:we know each other well, and I don't in any way disagree with Cornell being nothing short of amazing on vocals. That said, I think Maynard is better.Whos Juan said:
I probably can't say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread, but we lost the greatest vocalist of our generation last night.
Soundgarden is, was, and always will be more palatable to the masses over Tool, but Maynard's vocals are better.
We may disagree, but you know what I'm getting at, and know, despite what the above sounds like, i'm taking nothing away from Cornell.
not to get all sappy or whatever, but...
What bums me out about all of this is that I looked up to these guys (read: Staley, Weiland, Cobain, Cornell) b/c they put all their dark **** on paper and sang it to the world. It showed me that even though **** sucked, I could get through it. Things sucked, but it was just that. Life was more than dark, depressing ***** One by one, they are gone to their demons.
I'm not saying I had any deep, crazy demons or was ever suicidal, but it bums me out that they likely helped out thousands of people, yet couldn't help themselves.
i'm not talking lyrics, i'm talking vocals. Maynard's range is off the charts.62strat said:
if we're judging who had better mysterious cryptic lyrics, then sure Maynard wins.
AggieOO said:i'm not talking lyrics, i'm talking vocals. Maynard's range is off the charts.62strat said:
if we're judging who had better mysterious cryptic lyrics, then sure Maynard wins.
AggieOO said:
If you say so.
aggiebonzo said:
Never could get into Tool
Junkhead said:AggieOO said:
If you say so.
Most everyone with ears says so.
