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Bruce Almighty said:

Ok movie, but one of the worst book adaptations I've ever seen. At no time did I feel I was watching Without Remorse.


Somewhat in the same vain but American Assassin was one of the worst adaptions ever. It was written as something that would have been a great movie.
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It was ok, just something to turn your brain off and watch. Never read the book.

My issues:
A female SEAL captain, really?
Bret Gellman as as a Russian operative? He's just about as unlikely an actor as I can think of for that role.
azul_rain
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Isnt he the guy from the other guys ?
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hedge said:

Isnt he the guy from the other guys ?


You probably think that with my beard, I'm probably really hairy all over... nope. Completely shaved.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Max Power said:

It was ok, just something to turn your brain off and watch. Never read the book.

My issues:
A female SEAL captain, really?
Bret Gellman as as a Russian operative? He's just about as unlikely an actor as I can think of for that role.


And they just decided to make her Greer's niece.
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gigemags-99 said:

hedge said:

Isnt he the guy from the other guys ?


You probably think that with my beard, I'm probably really hairy all over... nope. Completely shaved.


Allen!

Then they get chased out of the house by Gellman yelling "you get back here and have sex with my wife." Then they're pulled talking in the car and they catch up like 13 miles down the road.

I love the other guys so much.
azul_rain
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ITS CHRISTINITH!
azul_rain
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Arnold Palmer Alert who wants arnold palmies?
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Eh, whole thing seemed like just a setup movie for Rainbow Six. Honestly, why bother? Rainbow Six is the bigger draw, by far, so why bother making a Without Remorse that bears almost zero resemblance to the book? It's not like Clark's personal backstory is all that critical to the Rainbow Six franchise anyway.
Hey...so.. um
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Max Power said:

It was ok, just something to turn your brain off and watch. Never read the book.

My issues:
A female SEAL captain, really?



This seemed odd to me too. Why? It didn't make sense.

The guy who played Ritter is awesome. Loved Turn.
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hedge said:

ITS CHRISTINITH!
Are you stupid or are you deaf?
JayHowdy!
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Hey...so.. um said:

Max Power said:

It was ok, just something to turn your brain off and watch. Never read the book.

My issues:
A female SEAL captain, really?



This seemed odd to me too. Why? It didn't make sense.

The guy who played Ritter is awesome. Loved Turn.
Saw this and turned the show off. A little too far to believe.
PneumAg
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Just started this. A chick leading a ****ing SEAL team? Am I being punked right now?Jesus Christ, Amazon. **** you. Just....go **** yourself.
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It gets better and more and more believable.

I've got about 25 more minutes.












Not.
Gilligan
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There's a fraction of a percent that's tied to the book.

Even if I hadn't read the book it would still be a bad movie. I tried to disconnect my brain and just enjoy the action sequences and the plot.

Having read the book I'd give it a 20 on rotten tomatoes. If I hadn't read the book I would make it a 35 to 40.
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Gilligan said:

There's a fraction of a percent that's tied to the book.

Even if I hadn't read the book it would still be a bad movie. I tried to disconnect my brain and just enjoy the action sequences and the plot.

Having read the book I'd give it a 20 on rotten tomatoes. If I hadn't read the book I would make it a 35 to 40.


Why even name this movie after the book? It's just insulting. Obviously the entire point of this was to take a Tom Clancy property and make it about black people plus a chick leading a SEAL team, which is utterly offensive and downright laughable to anyone who has actually operated with the SEALs.

Without Remorse is about killing pimps and doing some shady **** in Vietnam. Period. **** this movie and **** Amazon.
Spore Ag
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Did not enjoy the movie at all. The chuck was horrible with the movie like a superhero flick.
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So we have people who thought is was okay, people who thought it was bad, and people who were extremely triggered by it.

Hey...so.. um
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jeffk said:

So we have people who thought is was okay, people who thought it was bad, and people who were extremely triggered by it.




Who was extremely triggered?
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PneumAg said:

Gilligan said:

There's a fraction of a percent that's tied to the book.

Even if I hadn't read the book it would still be a bad movie. I tried to disconnect my brain and just enjoy the action sequences and the plot.

Having read the book I'd give it a 20 on rotten tomatoes. If I hadn't read the book I would make it a 35 to 40.


Why even name this movie after the book? It's just insulting. Obviously the entire point of this was to take a Tom Clancy property and make it about black people plus a chick leading a SEAL team, which is utterly offensive and downright laughable to anyone who has actually operated with the SEALs.

Without Remorse is about killing pimps and doing some shady **** in Vietnam. Period. **** this movie and **** Amazon.
Patricia or Tish was his wife. Pam was the prostitute. No Dr. Rosen, No Sandra O'toole, No Henry Tucker, No Italian Mafia. They replaced the aborted op in Vietnam with the attempted "aborted" op in Russia. He pisses on his clothes and carries a wine bottle up to the Russian embassy or something.

It's like they didn't read the book before writing the screenplay and took advantage of the fact Tom passed away in 2013.

Not angry or triggered about it, but the book was much more entertaining than the movie.

Let's just say they don't follow in the footsteps of the Hunt for Red October, Patriot Games or Clear & Present Danger.
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Like a poster above said, it seemed like a rushed movie to get them to a rainbow six movie or TV series. I would actually like to see a TV series, but that is just me.

They completely missed on the John Kelley character. In the movie, he was a hothead. In the book he is very tactical and stealthy. There was no stealth portrayed in this version.

The more I think about the movie the more I hate it. It was terrible.
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I just finished this movie. Am I correct that two people in this movie willingly gave up their lives for the noble goal of trying to get USA and Russia to fight a war together? The first one was part of the team that attacked John Kelly's house. He said "I am ready" before letting the other person shoot him dead. The second one was the guy with the suicide vest. They never went into their motivations for doing that.
PneumAg
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I guess those two were sacrificing themselves to start a war to unite America and spur an economic boom from war time industry? I don't know. The whole movie was just horrendously done.
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You're correct. The guy in the suicide vest was the guy who shot the guy who shot John Kelly's wife and unborn child. I actually went back and watched that one part again because I was confused.

The movie had nothing to do with the book.
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Hey...so.. um said:

Like a poster above said, it seemed like a rushed movie to get them to a rainbow six movie or TV series. I would actually like to see a TV series, but that is just me.

They completely missed on the John Kelley character. In the movie, he was a hothead. In the book he is very tactical and stealthy. There was no stealth portrayed in this version.

The more I think about the movie the more I hate it. It was terrible.


What they should have done was commission a high budget show where every season covers a book. Rainbow Six could have been a full season.

If they b@stardize Rainbow Six like they did this, I might actually lose my mind.
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Amazon is creating a modern Ryanverse... so prepare to have all the stories and characters they have rights to updated to fit modern times and themes.
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Max Power said:

gigemags-99 said:

hedge said:

Isnt he the guy from the other guys ?


You probably think that with my beard, I'm probably really hairy all over... nope. Completely shaved.


Allen!

Then they get chased out of the house by Gellman yelling "you get back here and have sex with my wife." Then they're pulled talking in the car and they catch up like 13 miles down the road.

I love the other guys so much.
Imagine watching The Other Guys, then the next night watching Without Remorse. My wife was like "wait a minute, isn't that..." and I go "yep!"
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That "actress" playing the captain...not only was she totally the wrong person for this movie her acting was so bad it literally took whatever enjoyment I almost got out of the movie away.
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That was......









*****ng awful
FincAg
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So this movie is on par with the Jack Ryan Amazon series? Trying to set expectations. Those were decent as someone who has never read a Tom Clancy novel. It sounds like this movie is awful.
azul_rain
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Jack Ryan Amazon was better
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
FincAg
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Yikes
PneumAg
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Yes, Jack Ryan was mediocre, but it was way better than this trash heap.
azul_rain
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Somebody on here compared it to American Assassin which honestly couldn't be more spot on
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This movie was far from great... but those calling it ****ing awful are being a bit dramatic. Actions scenes were good and MBJ is solid. Some of the supporting work was less than stellar... and I do agree with all the comments regarding the Navy SEAL squad leader.... that casting choice didn't fit. Musical score was really good.

Worth a couple hours with some popcorn. Not going to win any awards... but far from the worst movie most people on this board will watch this year.
 
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