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Reading this thread makes me think about how impressive it was for the US to go from a relatively small standing military to basically fighting (and winning!) two entirely different wars on opposite sides of the globe simultaneously.

USA! USA!
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This movie was super entertaining and WAY better than I expected. I LOVED it and really enjoyed it. We need more movies like this so don't let the naysayers or the "it's ok but dumb" crowd dissuade you from seeing it. I also saw it in Dolby so the seats rumbled in the battles and it was just a great way to remember such an important point in our nation's history.
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Really enjoyed the movie. Way better than I thought it would be based on the trailer. As others have said, it's pretty accurate too. The planes were pretty much dead on, and they included a lot of details such as Halsey sitting out Midway because of stress induced shingles, how the Japanese referred to Midway as "AF" and how Rochefort and his team were able to break the Japanese code.

The CGI wasn't the best but it didn't ruin the experience.
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Outstanding experience at the movies. My 12 year old history loving son begged me to see this on opening weekend and he loved it. We're going to rewatch the old Midway tomorrow and he's planning to read some more books.

I kept thinking that this movie was everything that The Pearl Harbor movie should have been. Great focus on tactics with just enough personal family stuff to make it interesting without distracting. CGI was big budget style and not a disaster. Acting was pretty bad but not laugh out loud bad like the trailer implied.
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Loved the movie. My only gripe was a criminal omission of John Waldron in the movie.
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Thanks for the feedback Texags! Wife and I will go see this sometime this week.
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KidDoc said:

Thanks for the feedback Texags! Wife and I will go see this sometime this week.

We went this afternoon, and really enjoyed it. It was kinda long, though.

Also, you could take your father-in-law, because he's planning on going this week, too!
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rfvgy12 said:

Loved the movie. My only gripe was a criminal omission of John Waldron in the movie.
I thought the same thing and they never mentioned Max Leslie's bombers which were instrumental in the first wave of attacks.
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Remember this movie was told from the airman's perspective from the Enterprise which is why Dick Best and Wade McClusky were featured. That's why there was little mention of Hornet or Yorktown aircrews.

I thought they should've had George Gay's character do a "whoop" & a thumbs up as he had front row seats at sea level to see the IJN aircraft carriers blowing up like roman candles... But that's just me.
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ECONAG92 said:

Remember this movie was told from the airman's perspective from the Enterprise which is why Dick Best and Wade McClusky were featured. That's why there was little mention of Hornet or Yorktown aircrews.

I thought they should've had George Gay's character do a "whoop" & a thumbs up as he had front row seats at sea level to see the IJN aircraft carriers blowing up like roman candles... But that's just me.
One thing that actually disappointed me was they did not even mention his name, at least as far as I heard. A whoop! would have been cool. Seeing how the name George Gay was in the credits, I'd have thought they would have named him in the movie.
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Title was Midway not Enterprise but I get the point.
“If one side is protesting racism, then the other side is counter protesting racism.” @thekellenmond
In response to pro Sul Ross statue protesters and fellow Aggies.
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AgMarauder04 said:

You might get to see Nick Jonas have weights tied to his feet and tossed overboard by the Japanese.

I must know, was this just a guess?
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DVC2010 said:

AgMarauder04 said:

You might get to see Nick Jonas have weights tied to his feet and tossed overboard by the Japanese.

I must know, was this just a guess?
I knew because Nick Jonas told me at our weekly golf outing
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I thought they should've had George Gay's character do a "whoop"

I know you're kidding, but my father was Class of 1944 and they didn't do a "whoop" when they wildcatted. My guess is it started in the 50s.
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I saw this movie last night, and I enjoyed it.

First of all, as someone who grew up immersed in a culture that had fought the war and suffered from it, I am just happy that movie makers saw fit to make a pretty good movie about it, and one that definitely took the American side without being revisionist in any way.

My uncle died in a Japanese POW camp; my grandfather was medical officer on a troop transport ship and was nearly killed by a suicide attack when the ship was off Okinawa. I am very sensitive to portrayals of the Japanese during WWII, especially because the Japanese have managed to deflect the sort of criticism leveled at the Nazis by presenting themselves as victims during the war as a result of the atomic bombings.

I have no objection to the way the Japanese were portrayed at all. It seemed very straightforward: it showed their cruelty and war crimes, and it showed that the military had a strict and demanding code of honor (which did not apply to POWs and "inferior" races, of course).

The actors did well with what they were given to work with, which was not all that much. It is an action story rather than a deep character study. As others have said, Harrelson managed to look a lot like Nimitz, which was a plus. Patrick Wilson always does a good job. The Japanese actors did fine.

My only objection as far as acting was the guy who played Dick Best. I have never heard of him, but he did not do well in this role. Not believable at all. Since he was one of the main characters, that really hurt the film.

I am sorry that Ensign Gay got such short shrift. His survival was a big deal at the time; much was made of it; he was a famous fellow. Unless you knew the story beforehand, you really had no idea who he was.

The other complaint I had was that the screen seemed much too crowded with airplanes to be realistic. The CGI was fine, but planes getting shot down five or six at a time or coming in strafing five or six at once was over the top.

Still, I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. I wish my ten-year-old granddaughter would go see it with me, but it would be too hard for her to follow, I think. Last year in fourth grade her class read a book about a Japanese girl who died of leukemia which she acquired from surviving the Hiroshima bombing. My granddaughter knew all about Hiroshima, but had never heard of Pearl Harbor. Oh, goodness. I tried not to foam at the mouth too much as I explained some things to her, but maybe when she's older we can watch this together.
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Thanks for all the reassuring reviews. Hope we get a review from titan, too.
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G Martin 87 said:

Thanks for all the reassuring reviews. Hope we get a review from titan, too.
He reviewed it on the history board.
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Titan's review
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I begged and insisted my 7th grade history teacher that we get to watch Patton as one of our "end of year movies".

So many of my classmates at the time had no idea who he was, that we fought Nazis in Africa, nor had ever heard of "the Hun".

They did giggle at "**** through a goose" though,
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George Gay spoke at the Senior Class Dinner at the then brand new Brazos County Convention Center in 1979.
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OldArmy71 said:

Titan's review
Thanks for the link. I honestly forgot we had a History board.
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InternetFan02 said:

Outstanding experience at the movies. My 12 year old history loving son begged me to see this on opening weekend and he loved it. We're going to rewatch the old Midway tomorrow and he's planning to read some more books.

I kept thinking that this movie was everything that The Pearl Harbor movie should have been. Great focus on tactics with just enough personal family stuff to make it interesting without distracting. CGI was big budget style and not a disaster. Acting was pretty bad but not laugh out loud bad like the trailer implied.


My son is 9, almost 10. I am thinking of taking him. I noticed it is PG-13. Is there any concern it is too old for him. There aren't any boobs or excessive cussing, is there?

FWIW, he made his own Halloween costume this year, and it was a mock up of F4U Corsair. He is in a WWII stage right now (Love that kid)
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No sex even suggested.

There is one "F U" directed at a Jap officer by a captured American who is about to be executed.

I think he would love this movie.
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Burdizzo said:

InternetFan02 said:

Outstanding experience at the movies. My 12 year old history loving son begged me to see this on opening weekend and he loved it. We're going to rewatch the old Midway tomorrow and he's planning to read some more books.

I kept thinking that this movie was everything that The Pearl Harbor movie should have been. Great focus on tactics with just enough personal family stuff to make it interesting without distracting. CGI was big budget style and not a disaster. Acting was pretty bad but not laugh out loud bad like the trailer implied.


My son is 9, almost 10. I am thinking of taking him. I noticed it is PG-13. Is there any concern it is too old for him. There aren't any boobs or excessive cussing, is there?

FWIW, he made his own Halloween costume this year, and it was a mock up of F4U Corsair. He is in a WWII stage right now (Love that kid)
There's an F bomb and quite a bit of violence. The f bomb is front and center in a very poignant scene, so that one might stick out, but other than that there is hardly any cussing.
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Grrat movie. No real romanticism with the war, just a good action movie. Highly recommend.
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9 y.o. son loved it!
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Took my 7 year old with his three older siblings. No problems except the FU. Honestly not the first time he has heard that combination of words.

There is some subtitle reading that is fast.
“If one side is protesting racism, then the other side is counter protesting racism.” @thekellenmond
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That is not a regularly used word in my son's vocabulary, but somewhere around 1st grade he whispered that he knew what the f-word was. It is hard not to hear that word these days
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Same with the granddaughter.
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Anyone know a good online or streaming source for the John Ford 1942 film on Midway?

We are watching the 1950 DoD film on the battle right now. SJWs would have a field day with this film.
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Ford's film Battle of Midway

Ford's tribute to Torpedo Squadron 8
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OldArmy71 said:

Ford's film Battle of Midway

Ford's tribute to Torpedo Squadron 8


Thanks. I just came back to say I found it on Amazon Prime.
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Burdizzo said:

Anyone know a good online or streaming source for the John Ford 1942 film on Midway?

We are watching the 1950 DoD film on the battle right now. SJWs would have a field day with this film.

I think I saw on Netflix or Amazon. Netflix does have a lot of good '40s films that modern SJWs would freak the **** out over.

Yep. Netflix.
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If you'll be vacationing in the Pensacola area (especially with your kids), I highly recommend a visit to the National Naval Aviation Museum on NAS Pensacola. The museum has expertly restored examples of naval aircraft from WWII on display, including a Wildcat, Zero, Dauntless, Avenger, and many others. There's an interesting cutaway display of a PBY as well. Airplane fans of all ages will have a fantastic time. Tip: check the Blue Angels practice schedule. Visitors can watch the practice from bleachers set up overlooking the runway. The pilots will sometimes be scheduled to meet and greet and sign autographs with kids after practice.
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Saw it with my war movie buff dad (an old BQ). We enjoyed it, but I did have a little bit of a feeling like it didn't quite know what kind of film it wanted to be.

IMO, it would have helped quite a bit if they'd identified who was who when they appeared on screen. Just for that little bit of assistance in following the who-what.
 
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