He doesn't have ALL the power as the girls could team up to go against his wishes. But if he would have selected Tori to join the tribunal, the whole house would know with near 100% certainty that Tori is going to throw herself in. When it comes time to a house nomination, they may want to throw Jenny or someone else who is strong in just to mess Tori up. Granted that puts risk at Tori and Jordan picking one of their nominated 3 instead and now you have to face Jenny.

By putting Jenna in the tribunal, he and Tori at least have the knowledge of seeing who the house throws in in first before making their next move. Nany survives purely on politics and seems doubtful she would ever throw herself in. Jenna is all over the place mentally at the moment. Sure she could decide she wants to go in, but Jordan figures its a very low probability as she just said she wants to stay and usually stays away away from conflict. If i had to guess, there was probably an off camera conversation we missed where Nany and Jordan may have made some deal that lets Nany stay in Jordan and Tori's good graces and have her protected if she plays along with Jordan's plan. Thats the only way I can see Jordan being so confident that he's still in control.

Ya, that makes sense if Nany and Jordan had a conversation we didn't see and have some sort of deal.

The preview looked interesting. There was one clip of Big T laying on the floor yelling to tell her that it is ok...looked like there were blood drops on the floor near her head.

Also sounds like maybe at some point Teej tells the people who haven't gotten their red skull to pound sand, it's too late.

Jenna Jenna Jenna...glad she didn't leave but her and Zack have been toxic for years.

Definitely noticed the blood by Big T, too.

Spoiler Alert - Jenna and Zach are engaged, so that storyline didn't carry too much drama for me.

It will be interesting if he tells them that there are no more Purgatories beforehand. I'm assuming he will tell them before the last challenge to set off chaos for the vote and nomination.

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Definitely noticed the blood by Big T, too.

Spoiler Alert - Jenna and Zach are engaged, so that storyline didn't carry too much drama for me.

It will be interesting if he tells them that there are no more Purgatories beforehand. I'm assuming he will tell them before the last challenge to set off chaos for the vote and nomination.

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Yeah I know they are engaged, but they can still be a toxic relationship.

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Definitely noticed the blood by Big T, too.

Spoiler Alert - Jenna and Zach are engaged, so that storyline didn't carry too much drama for me.

It will be interesting if he tells them that there are no more Purgatories beforehand. I'm assuming he will tell them before the last challenge to set off chaos for the vote and nomination.

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Yeah I know they are engaged, but they can still be a toxic relationship.

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Oh for sure. During the episode my wife and I were debating how long we think they will stay together before getting divorced.

Jenna's dad must be a real ass hole. She was long term with a guy on her real world season and first challenge who treated her as bad as Zach does.

Its really a shame. She seems like a great friend to the other girls, appears to be very loving and loyal, as well as funny and sweet. If I remember right, her ex Jay walked all over her too. I wish more women would realize their value and not let men manipulate and gas light them. I'm sure she's not perfect either, but judging Zack's previous actions throughout the years, hes a scumbag. Saying men are "the greater species" than women (which is dumb for multiple reasons), the way he treated Sam on one season, calling Jenna some other girl's name on a phone call, etc etc. Pretty sure he's cheated on her before, and has cheated on other previous gfs.

Bayleigh blaming Jordan?! Shes the worst type of person. Trys to bring it and Jordan dunks on her with facts. She throws a hissy fit and storms off. Shes fake AF.

Now Jordan - wins a challenge that requires you to hang from the side of a truck and grab things. He wins. Anyone shocked?

Jordan is an ass sometimes but he is consistently a top tier performer. And he does it with one hand. Bayleigh needs to recognize. Also Nelson going off on Aneesa was really stupid

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Jordan is an ass sometimes but he is consistently a top tier performer. And he does it with one hand. Bayleigh needs to recognize. Also Nelson going off on Aneesa was is really stupid

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Jordan is an ass sometimes but he is consistently a top tier performer. And he does it with one hand. Bayleigh needs to recognize. Also Nelson going off on Aneesa was is really stupid

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Yeah, when Cory is the smart one of the group, you may have some problems

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Jordan is an ass sometimes but he is consistently a top tier performer. And he does it with one hand. Bayleigh needs to recognize. Also Nelson going off on Aneesa was is really stupid

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Yeah, when Cory is the smart one of the group, you may have some problems

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Anyone else think Bananas is past his prime and hasnt been relevant in years? He is basically just living off his reputation at this point. Everytime he goes into an elimination he loses.

Corey and Nelson are entertaining and look the part, but damn they never win anything and consistently play horrible games.

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Anyone else think Bananas is past his prime and hasnt been relevant in years? He is basically just living off his reputation at this point. Everytime he goes into an elimination he loses.

Corey and Nelson are entertaining and look the part, but damn they never win anything and consistently play horrible games.

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Bananas doesn't have the social game he used to have bc all his old running buddies are gone. As for the eliminations, he lost a lite brite type game and a game where he made a mistake. Neither was a physical challenge, so it's hard to say how he would do against some of the younger guys in a head banger or tug of war.

I like Corey, but I enjoyed the seasons without Nelson. I'd be fine for him to not come back. I'm glad that Hunter has been off the last few seasons. Just need to get rid of Josh too.

Corey and Nelson have gym muscles. They got swole for the beach, but have no heart or talent when it comes to actual challenges. They want to be bananas type legends but lack personality, brains, heart and skills.

Oh. Hunter. I forgot about that brain stem (only) moron. I don't think that guy has an IQ above 55, so I feel bad for hating him.

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Anyone else think Bananas is past his prime and hasnt been relevant in years? He is basically just living off his reputation at this point. Everytime he goes into an elimination he loses.

Corey and Nelson are entertaining and look the part, but damn they never win anything and consistently play horrible games.

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Has done nothing since he took the money from Sarah

He's making 6 figures hosting the NBC travel show that airs after SNL and the show they air 24x7 in all NYC cabs, but yeah, maybe the Sarah curse is real.

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He's making 6 figures hosting the NBC travel show that airs after SNL and the show they air 24x7 in all NYC cabs, but yeah, maybe the Sarah curse is real.

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Im sure hes doign well, and I think its awesome that hes branching out and making a real career for himself. Im talking about the Challenge.

He won a Champs vs Pros season 2 yrs ago. But yeah, dude is almost 40. His best days are behind him.

I wonder what happened to Tony Raines. He was starting to hit his stride and become one of the better competitors. He was on every single challenge for a while then just disappeared.

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I wonder what happened to Tony Raines. He was starting to hit his stride and become one of the better competitors. He was on every single challenge for a while then just disappeared.

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Nobody ever had a tattoo that better described their life philosophy as a total screw up than Tony's "Y not?" tattoo.

I honestly dont miss Tony at all. He was mildly entertaining when he was destroying his life and being Bananas puppet.

There are a ton of people that I do wish would make a return - even if just for a season. The Challenge has had some of the best reality "stars" of any series - competition or just reality.

Bananas is definitely past his prime but he is a Challenge legend so I don't mind him coming back. He also gets a really nice paycheck to just come on the show so I don't blame him for riding that gravy train

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Bananas is definitely past his prime but he is a Challenge legend so I don't mind him coming back. He also gets a really nice paycheck to just come on the show so I don't blame him for riding that gravy train

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How much do they get paid for appearing on the show? It's not the same for everyone, right?

As for who I would want to see again, I liked having Derrick back in the mix, and I'd always be happy to see Mark, though I'm not sure how he would mix with competitors that could be his grand kids.

I've fallen down the path of live twitch streams of Bananas commenting on the episode. https://www.twitch.tv/realjohnnybananas

He's obnoxious with his branding, but dammit if I can't look away. He has been on our tvs for close to 15 years. The Challenge would feel empty without him at this point.

I think with the influx of entertaining Brits, we don't need the idiocy of Cory, Nelson, and Hunter. Devin at least is competent, but only seemed to care about Bananas. Would love to see him interact with Bear and his shenanigans.

As long as TJ Lavin is there, that's the only constant I need.

It'll be a sad day when the older legends start getting phased out of the show: CT, Wes, Bananas etc.

One question is who is the greatest challenge contestant ever? Who is the one guy you dont want to face in an elimination? I think at one point no one wanted to face CT in an elimination, but I think Jordan has to be that guy right now.

Landon
Early Alton

I think thats a hard question to answer...

CT 10 years ago if different than CT now. There have been some animals - Evan was a moose, Derrick K is a freak for his size, Wes 10 years ago go toe to toe with anyone, The Miz is a WWE Superstar...

Was half watching "worst cooks in America" last night and I heard a familiar voice. It was bananas.

Whether or not he's a real competitor, he's always fun to have around.

Also I have always had Wes as one of my favorites

This episode was wild one:

1) Nelson starting off apologizing to Anessa to only **** shame Kailah. This makes BEAR of all people look better for doing the bare minimum. Incredible. Kyle had my favorite reaction with him wanting Nelson to keep talking.

2) Nani and her cup of noodles. Everybody Hurts was perfect. The Last Dance has the best needle drops, but this season is no slouch with their throwbacks.

3) Zach might be the worst person out of this show. "My house!" made me want to punch my tv.

4) The Purgatory was intense. Actually had me at the edge of my seat.

5) Hope we remain on schedule (Drama, Challenge, Deliberation/Tribunal, Purgatory) for the rest of the season. Last week was a bummer of an episode and I thought this one was going to be to, but this episode had funny drama vs. last week's cringe drama imo.

Here's to next week's double elimination.

Great points all around. My wife's blood was boiling during the Zach scene. He's such an *******.

Great elimination - Jenna is no slouch.

I agree that the traditional format is so much better episode wise.

Nany is the worst kind of drunk. She says cruel, unnecessary things to people that she claims are her friends and then the next day says her apologies and expects she'll be forgiven.

Nelson is such an idiot. So glad Hunter isn't on this season to add to the idiocy.

As dumb as I think Kailah is for cheating on her bf with a **** boy like Bear, it was sweet that he tried to stand up for her.

Super glad Jenna isn't giving into Zack's emotional blackmail and decided to not only stay but take Tori out.

Great episode!

1. Didn't see that ending coming
2. Zach is a tool