Champ Bailey said:

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I've said it before, but I don't usually think Trump parodies are that funny. And I'm not a fan of his. He's just already a cartoon of a person, so when you lampoon his already ridiculous personality, then it just becomes really reductive.

I don't know. Maybe if I saw someone like Frank Caliendo doing it I would change my mind.

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Uh, comedy is all about making fun of people with quirky personalities...especially SNL. Or at least it used to be.

Darrell Hammond's impression of Trump was great. Jimmy Fallon's initial parody of Trump was funny until NBC got their panties in a wad over it being too playful.

Dana Carvey's recent impressions of Trump in his comedy specials are good too.

If they would lighten up a little and try to have fun...they could make it interesting. But when you take the modern 'Samantha Bee' approach...it just comes off as mean spirited and no one enjoys it.

Stop trying to tell people what they need to think about a person...and just make fun of everyone for some laughs.

I do agree that, overall, SNL definitely isn't what it used to be. There are multiple times over the past two or three years where I've seriously considered giving it up, but I've been watching since the early '90s, and am always hoping for that one great sketch, which is, nowadays, maybe once every two or three episodes? When it used to be once or twice an episode. But as consistently bad as is, it still feels like a relevant water cooler show, makes me chuckle at times, and no matter the quality, it's always interesting to see how good or bad the host is. Part of me enjoys the stunt casting of political figures these last few years, but I do long for the days when the cast itself was strong enough to play everyone themselves.

i find it hilarious what staff chooses to delete and what they choose to leave in threads.

i'd go into it more, but i'm sure i'd get a ban hammer for questioning authority. Its their site, so they can do what they want, so i'll go back to my hole now.

MGS said:

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'92 season was the best with Phil Hartman as Clinton and Dana Carvey as Bush and Perot.

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This is some A+ Hartman:

TCTTS said:

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I do agree that, overall, SNL definitely isn't what it used to be. There are multiple times over the past two or three years where I've seriously considered giving it up, but I've been watching since the early '90s, and am always hoping for that one great sketch, which is, nowadays, maybe once every two or three episodes? When it used to be once or twice an episode. But as consistently bad as is, it still feels like a relevant water cooler show, makes me chuckle at times, and no matter the quality, it's always interesting to see how good or bad the host is. Part of me enjoys the stunt casting of political figures these last few years, but I do long for the days when the cast itself was strong enough to play everyone themselves.

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I just think they've forced it too much on the political commentary. Some of it's probably the writing, they had some incredibly talented writers in the 80's and 90's. It's just not the gig it once was with so much content on tv and streaming in today's world.

I do think they've had some great moments in recent years though. The Macy's Christmas commercial with the parents trying to get their kids dressed in uncomfortable clothes was really well done. The church Zoom call in the early months of the pandemic was funny.

The things I remember the most from my "good old days" as a kid watching SNL was the silly every-day stuff. Like the "Gap girls" segment with Sander/Farley/Spade, Matt Foley, Church Lady, Wayne's World, Celebrity Jeopardy, etc.

I guess for me, comedy has always been more of an escape. I want something incredibly stupid and silly. Something that's not supposed to make any sense or tell me what to think.

you summed it up pretty well. We obviously forget all the dud sketches from years past and only remember the good stuff for the most part, but I feel like in the "good old days" you could watch SNL and laugh at half of the stuff or more. These days, there are still great sketches, but they are few and far between. On the rare occasion I watch (mostly b/c i'm somewhere and someone has it on), I can make it through an entire episode without laughing...but then you get some great stuff like the aforementioned commercial with parents trying to dress the kids.

All that said, I'm also sure my humor has changed a bit too. I'm a parent now, so that trying to get your kid dressed hits home. I doubt if this dropped today as brand new, I'd find it particularly funny...maybe a couple chuckles...but in '91, I thought this was hilarious.

Yeah, I hear you.

I lived for the Sandler/Farley/Spade era. That's when I first started watching.

fig96 said:

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This is, I would wager, the most "liberal" board on TexAgs (rivaled only by those Euro hippies on the Soccer board).

Most here don't delve much into Politics at all until someone who's almost without fail not a regular poster interjects something, usually with no intent for discussion and often never even returning to the topic. The regulars here are usually able to mention and even discuss the political and social implications of entertainment without resorting to insults or arguments. Some regulars are even F16 posters who are somehow able to coexist peacefully in this liberal bastion of TexAgs.

If your intent in posting here is to bash Hollywood or liberals or even conservatives for that matter, you're in the wrong place. So to quote Hugh Grant in Notting Hill, please, sod off.

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People are welcome to comment on whatever they want. If you don't like it, you are free to engage or ignore. Most of us are tired of F13's very hypocritical stance on politics being discussed on this board and the few posters who find it their calling to write diatribes attacking anyone they don't agree with in some sort of self appointed board gatekeeper style.

As you said, this board is likely the most liberal on Texags. Which proves that it's no coincidence which posts get attacked and removed the most. If someone posts a derail, fine, remove it. But most of the time it's someone very unhappy with what they saw or read related to the actual entertainment topic.

I've been on this board a long time. And like I said above, I will talk about whatever I want because I normally keep within the constraints of the topic at hand. Sometimes it will get political. It's not me bringing politics here. It's me reacting to the full politicization of everything entertainment related. The reason threads usually go off the rails as not the discussion of politics. It's the attempt by a few to silence it in an extremely degrading and condescending manner.

This might be *your* approach, but if this were the overall reality, things around here would be easy peasy. However, more often than not, it's people looking to poke and prod and instigate. There is literally no other purpose in using a moniker like, say, "TDS." It's people endlessly complaining about the content in movies and shows they haven't even seen yet. It's people interrupting a perfectly innocuous conversation about a perfectly innocuous movie to tell us we shouldn't watch it because Judd Apatow is listed as an executive producer, buried somewhere in the end-credits. If you want to complain about Hollywood's politics, complain about Hollywood's politics on the politics board. I don't know why that's such a big, impossible, offensive ask. Or why you feel the need to use phrases like, "I will talk about whatever I want," and passively support the "degrading" and "condescending" manner in which so many F16ers come here to sh*t on the things we love... but then shame me for being "degrading" and "condescending" to them for doing so. It's such a bullsh*t double standard.

I've said my peace. I'm a fan of yours in general. Just wish you'd learn to ignore the things that make you rage post. Like I said, most of the times you interject you end up blowing it up when a simple ignore or a post to get it back on track would have been so much better. You'll never control other people.

TCTTS said:

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This might be *your* approach, but if this were the overall reality, things around here would be easy peasy. However, more often than not, it's people looking to poke and prod and instigate. There is literally no other purpose in using a moniker like, say, "TDS." It's people endlessly complaining about the content in movies and shows they haven't even seen yet. It's people interrupting a perfectly innocuous conversation about a perfectly innocuous movie to tell us we shouldn't watch it because Judd Apatow is listed as an executive producer, buried somewhere in the end-credits. If you want to complain about Hollywood's politics, complain about Hollywood's politics on the politics board. I don't know why that's such a big, impossible, offensive ask. Or why you feel the need to use phrases like, "I will talk about whatever I want," and passively support the "degrading" and "condescending" manner in which so many F16ers come here to sh*t on the things we love... but then shame me for being "degrading" and "condescending" to them for doing so. It's such a bullsh*t double standard.

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Simple solution: Start discussing every movie ever made on F16.

On that, we agree. I even said as much in a post on this thread yesterday that has since been deleted for some reason. I know I have a tendency to "rage post" at times, and should absolutely learn to let half of this sh*t go. But the ridiculous political digs and interjections increasingly pop up here so much, in seemingly every other thread, that it becomes impossible to ignore. Especially when a decent junk of it is it aimed directly at me. But, whatever.

I just yearn for a post-election, post-Covid world, where a bit of the air can be let out of all of this tension and escalation, and we have way more to distract ourselves with...

TCTTS said:

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On that, we agree. I even said as much in a post on this thread yesterday that has since been deleted for some reason. I know I have a tendency to "rage post" at times, and should absolutely learn to let half of this sh*t go. But the ridiculous political digs and interjections increasingly pop up here so much, in seemingly every other thread, that it becomes impossible to ignore. Especially when a decent junk of it is it aimed directly at me. But, whatever.

I just yearn for a post-election, post-Covid world, where a bit of the air can be let out of all of this tension and escalation, and we have way more to distract ourselves with...

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You're the target because you're the Hollywood insider available to rage at. I admit, it's easy to yell our frustrations at you as if you have any control over anything. I'm even bad at that.

We can all be better here.

He makes himself the target because of what he represents and chooses to rage about. Sad that the thread admonishing him for comments was removed by staff. I wonder who the catalyst was for that action...

Dude is also contributing to this self fulfilled prophecy of race related issues with his new show based on race and is hobnobbing with the Smolett family. He even defends them.

He is a producer of the current paradigm of which many detest and when he shows his true colors, he gets admonished. Fancy that.

That's the free market of public opinion working.

Here's a take, let's make shows that have good actors in them without need for quotas or race interjection.
Lets cast the best actor for each role regardless of race.
Lets tell a great story that isn't tailored to form a political narrative.
Thats what people want to see and thats why more and more are diving into the well of previous films and TV shows to escape the unending push towards racism in America.

Or take the money and carry the torch but don't expect people to not take note and comment.

Dude probably thinks Trump is a racist as well.

Tibbers said:

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He makes himself the target because of what he represents and chooses to rage about. Sad that the thread admonishing him for comments was removed by staff. I wonder who the catalyst was for that action...

Dude is also contributing to this self fulfilled prophecy of race related issues with his new show based on race and is hobnobbing with the Smolett family. He even defends them.

He is a producer of the current paradigm of which many detest and when he shows his true colors, he gets admonished. Fancy that.

That's the free market of public opinion working.

Here's a take, let's make shows that have good actors in them without need for quotas or race interjection.
Lets cast the best actor for each role regardless of race.
Lets tell a great story that isn't tailored to form a political narrative.
Thats what people want to see and thats why more and more are diving into the well of previous films and TV shows to escape the unending push towards racism in America.

Or take the money and carry the torch but don't expect people to not take note and comment.

Dude probably thinks Trump is a racist as well.

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what are you talking about?

Tibbers said:

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He makes himself the target because of what he represents and chooses to rage about. Sad that the thread admonishing him for comments was removed by staff. I wonder who the catalyst was for that action...

Dude is also contributing to this self fulfilled prophecy of race related issues with his new show based on race and is hobnobbing with the Smolett family. He even defends them.

He is a producer of the current paradigm of which many detest and when he shows his true colors, he gets admonished. Fancy that.

That's the free market of public opinion working.

Here's a take, let's make shows that have good actors in them without need for quotas or race interjection.
Lets cast the best actor for each role regardless of race.
Lets tell a great story that isn't tailored to form a political narrative.
Thats what people want to see and thats why more and more are diving into the well of previous films and TV shows to escape the unending push towards racism in America.

Or take the money and carry the torch but don't expect people to not take note and comment.

Dude probably thinks Trump is a racist as well.

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Wow, you really don't like Jim Carrey.