investorAg83 said:

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Love this post.. and, as complete as your listing is you have one very notable omission; 'The Eagle Has Landed' (Commando)

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it's under Spy/Espionage Films

jm94 said:

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I like how Pearl Harbor didn't even make the bracket.

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Lol yea in what world would someone pick Pearl Harbor over Tora! Tora! Tora!. Pearl Harbor has only one moment that was worth watching (the actual attack of Pearl)..

but it doesn't compare to Tora!Tora!Tora! Great movie and great story telling.

I'd call them WW2-adjacent.

Idk if Kelly's Heroes is dark or anti-war or what... but it is the best.

Ambres said:

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jm94 said:

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I like how Pearl Harbor didn't even make the bracket.

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Lol yea in what world would someone pick Pearl Harbor over Tora! Tora! Tora!. Pearl Harbor has only one moment that was worth watching (the actual attack of Pearl)..

but it doesn't compare to Tora!Tora!Tora! Great movie and great story telling.

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millennials

So...my Tora Tora Tora story.

I went with a buddy to the Ft Sam Houston theater to watch the film the year it came out (I think I was in 6th grade).

Subtitles for half the movie, it seemed. It was tough enough seeing through the smoke filled theater - people smoked in theaters back then. People smoked everywhere - restaurants, airplanes, hospitals. No smoking in church - that was done outside the front door.

I was sitting behind this lady who had a huge 1970 Afro. Huge. I didn't get to see any of the subtitles

I think Pearl Harbor was one of the very first movies I saw where the computer graphics were almost real looking. The scenes of the Japanese attack planes in formation was pretty impressive for the time.

Carlo4 said:

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Claude! said:

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... guess they did Nazi see it coming

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Thoughts and prayers for the joke you butchered.

I did not set out to make a Tournament where the best 144 well known films about WWII were included. I set about creating a Tournament in which films from several different genres most of which are directly related to the War but some more loosely so are incorporated to make a fun tournament for everybody. Please note that the same thread in which Conspiracy is mentioned, A League of Their Own and 1941 were mentioned in the second post. The Final Countdown the fourth. My purpose for this Tournament is not really to determine a winner (everyone already knows the most likely champion with maybe two or three others entries with an outside chance at an upset) but to spark some lively discussion which you have provided and I thank you for. I also hope seeing this thread that some might give some of my favorites A Hidden Place, Two Women, Grave of the Fireflies, Hope and Glory, To Have and Have Not, The Best Years of Our Lives, Father Goose, The Rocketeer (an underrated and regrettably almost forgotten film) and even the absurd silliness of Top Secret! a look.

In hindsight it is probably a better fit in that bracket, but it probably has a better shot at winning the bracket in which I place it, Spy/Espionage Films.

Hey Nav said:

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So...my Tora Tora Tora story.

I went with a buddy to the Ft Sam Houston theater to watch the film the year it came out (I think I was in 6th grade).

Subtitles for half the movie, it seemed. It was tough enough seeing through the smoke filled theater - people smoked in theaters back then. People smoked everywhere - restaurants, airplanes, hospitals. No smoking in church - that was done outside the front door.

I was sitting behind this lady who had a huge 1970 Afro. Huge. I didn't get to see any of the subtitles

I think Pearl Harbor was one of the very first movies I saw where the computer graphics were almost real looking. The scenes of the Japanese attack planes in formation was pretty impressive for the time.

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Tora Tora Tora is the gold standard for Pearl Harbor movies. It was actually made by two different film crews - one American, one Japanese. I believe that is the explanation for the subtitles.

Pearl Harbor the movie - eh. As movies go, it was okay, but it butchered a whole lot of well-known history. I'm a warbird nut, so you put a movie featuring WWII warbirds in front of me, I'm going to see it. I absolutely loved the Eagle Squadron sequence pitting Spitfires against Bf109s and Heinkel bombers, but in the back of my mind, I'm wondering if an active duty flyboy in the USAAC is going to be allowed to volunteer for the Eagle Squadron. The problem with the movie is that it is basically a love story set against WWII. The war action is handled pretty well but everything else is meh.

Did I miss the Musical category?

Sound of Music goes straight through to round 2

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Hey Nav said:

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So...my Tora Tora Tora story.

I went with a buddy to the Ft Sam Houston theater to watch the film the year it came out (I think I was in 6th grade).

Subtitles for half the movie, it seemed. It was tough enough seeing through the smoke filled theater - people smoked in theaters back then. People smoked everywhere - restaurants, airplanes, hospitals. No smoking in church - that was done outside the front door.

I was sitting behind this lady who had a huge 1970 Afro. Huge. I didn't get to see any of the subtitles

I think Pearl Harbor was one of the very first movies I saw where the computer graphics were almost real looking. The scenes of the Japanese attack planes in formation was pretty impressive for the time.

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Tora Tora Tora is the gold standard for Pearl Harbor movies. It was actually made by two different film crews - one American, one Japanese. I believe that is the explanation for the subtitles.

Pearl Harbor the movie - eh. As movies go, it was okay, but it butchered a whole lot of well-known history. I'm a warbird nut, so you put a movie featuring WWII warbirds in front of me, I'm going to see it. I absolutely loved the Eagle Squadron sequence pitting Spitfires against Bf109s and Heinkel bombers, but in the back of my mind, I'm wondering if an active duty flyboy in the USAAC is going to be allowed to volunteer for the Eagle Squadron. The problem with the movie is that it is basically a love story set against WWII. The war action is handled pretty well but everything else is meh.

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Say what you will about the narrative quality of his movies, but Michael Bay knows how to film a great action sequence.

If there is a musical category, White Christmas wins out.

South Pacific might give it a run for its money.

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Did I miss the Musical category?

Sound of Music goes straight through to round 2

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Over South Pacific?

Maybe. But Bing and Danny for the win.

I am very picky about lists of WWII movies. I compliment you on the depth and excellence of the movies you have chosen. I cannot think of a single favorite of mine which has been left off.

Well done!

I would have added 'City of Life and Death' and 'Men Behind the Sun' to help cover the Chinese theater of the war.

There may be some movies that have been left out, but as someone that's made one of these tournaments, it's virtually impossible to make a perfect bracket. The important thing is that every movie that has a snowball's chance in Hell made the cut.

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I did not set out to make a Tournament where the best 144 well known films about WWII were included. I set about creating a Tournament in which films from several different genres most of which are directly related to the War but some more loosely so are incorporated to make a fun tournament for everybody. Please note that the same thread in which Conspiracy is mentioned, A League of Their Own and 1941 were mentioned in the second post. The Final Countdown the fourth. My purpose for this Tournament is not really to determine a winner (everyone already knows the most likely champion with maybe two or three others entries with an outside chance at an upset) but to spark some lively discussion which you have provided and I thank you for. I also hope seeing this thread that some might give some of my favorites A Hidden Place, Two Women, Grave of the Fireflies, Hope and Glory, To Have and Have Not, The Best Years of Our Lives, Father Goose, The Rocketeer (an underrated and regrettably almost forgotten film) and even the absurd silliness of Top Secret! a look.

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You're about 2 posts away from refreshing this thread every 5 seconds just DARING someone to challenge your seeding and posting the Google Forms link to tell everyone "do it yourself then." Tournament hosting is the slippery slope of the Entertainment board.


Plus you left out History of the World Part II featuring Hitler on Ice.

How in the hell is it possible that im the only one that starred the op? Not that anyone gets a prize or anything but geez.

cbr said:

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How in the hell is it possible that im the only one that starred the op? Not that anyone gets a prize or anything but geez.

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Hey, it's a long post!

Kidding aside, agreed, just went back to star that sucker.

Kelly's Heroes was a dark comedy?

Second person who has asked this. I'll ask again, what bracket would you have put it in? I guess it might fit better in the light hearted comedies.

Fat Bib Fortuna said:

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Plus you left out History of the World Part II featuring Hitler on Ice.

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Anyways this round will remain open to later this afternoon mostly because I will not be able to get to tabulating the results until then. Most of the match-ups are pretty well decided but there are a handful within a few votes of each other. so VOTE!

Chipotlemonger said:

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cbr said:

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How in the hell is it possible that im the only one that starred the op? Not that anyone gets a prize or anything but geez.

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Hey, it's a long post!

Kidding aside, agreed, just went back to star that sucker.

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The war wasn't as long as OP's post

I feel like I'm not qualified to vote. I ended up just voting for the ones I've seen in this first round. I haven't seen enough to judge much this early.

No love for Tom Selleck's Ike: Countdown to D-Day? I liked that.

Haven't heard of most of these but participated just to vote against Thin Red Line.

And how do you not have Commando w/ the Commando category???

Father Goose vs. Operation Petticoat is the hardest choice in any movie bracket ever.

How long is this voting round? did not see it mentioned.

John Wayne is in The Longest Day.

Troutslime said:

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John Wayne is in The Longest Day.

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Sure but everyone was in the Longest Day. Much more of an ensemble cast than a John Wayne oriented vehicle. Several of his others included another star or two but there were legitimately 5-6 mega stars and another 20 current or would be big names (an unknown Sean Connery at the time for example).

Makes sense to be listed where it is.

jkag89 said:

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Second person who has asked this. I'll ask again, what bracket would you have put it in? I guess it might fit better in the light hearted comedies.

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Should have had an anti-War category. but that is kind of sketch on what they are. A lot of films can fall in that category of what you have.

Thin red Line. Das Bot, Hacksaw Ridge, Flags of our Father,. Cross of Iron, Catch-22