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The Best World War II Movies Tournament
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This is how an ass chewing is done. Watch and learn.
Morning Bump! Several close races in both polls:
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Vote Here for the "NIT" Bracket
There is no doubt that Twelve O'Clock High is one of the greatest movies of any genre. Perfect, top to bottom. Amazing cast; amazing writing.
Just for example, watch the scene in which Peck's character visits the hospital ward of the now-wounded victim of the ass-chewing in the first clip. Peck is there to see the colonel and apologize, but he makes it seem as if he is there to see anyone else BUT him and just HAPPENS to encounter his bed. And the way the man weeps at the end. People who don't understand the greatness of that scene have no business talking about movies.
Or the scene in which Peck's character has his driver pull over to the side of the road for a quick cigarette before assuming command at the base.
The Best Years of Our Lives is a long, meandering prose poem to the men who fought the war and who came home to uncertain futures. It too is perfect, from beginning to end. Frederick March is just astonishingly good, all the way through.
My God, where are the people who can watch and understand and appreciate movies like this?
Same goes for They Were Expendable and Battleground.
Just for example, watch the scene in which Peck's character visits the hospital ward of the now-wounded victim of the ass-chewing in the first clip. Peck is there to see the colonel and apologize, but he makes it seem as if he is there to see anyone else BUT him and just HAPPENS to encounter his bed. And the way the man weeps at the end. People who don't understand the greatness of that scene have no business talking about movies.
Or the scene in which Peck's character has his driver pull over to the side of the road for a quick cigarette before assuming command at the base.
The Best Years of Our Lives is a long, meandering prose poem to the men who fought the war and who came home to uncertain futures. It too is perfect, from beginning to end. Frederick March is just astonishingly good, all the way through.
My God, where are the people who can watch and understand and appreciate movies like this?
Same goes for They Were Expendable and Battleground.
Well said, and i agree with everything you wrote.
The polls for the Third Round of the Main Event and the Second Round of the "NIT" will close around 7 this evening.
To reiterate, When Trumpets Fade is a very good film. Worth watching.
John Irvin director, was the same guy who directed Hamburger Hill.
John Irvin director, was the same guy who directed Hamburger Hill.
Round Three (The Bracket Finals) Results
The Battles
The Longest Day 57.4% - Tora! Tora! Tora! 42.6%
The Ground War
Saving Private Ryan 92.5% - Fury 7.5%
The War on the High Seas
U-571 50.3% - Run Silent Run Deep 49.7%
The Air War
Memphis Belle 69.6% - Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo 30.4%
Mini-Series
The Band of Brothers 91.2% - The Pacific 8.8%
WWII Biopics
Patton 75% - Hacksaw Ridge 25%
John Wayne Movies
They Were Expendable 25.4% - Sands of Iwo Jima 74.6%
Commando Movies
Where Eagles Dare 32.2% - The Dirty Dozen 67.8%
POW Movies
The Great Escape 54.7% - The Bridge on the River Kwai 45.3%
The Resistance
Casablanca 90.6% - A Hidden Life 9,4%
Spy/Espionage Films
The Eagle Has Landed 77.8% - Saboteur 22.2%
Holocaust Related Films
Schindler's List 89.2% - The Diary of Anne Frank (1959) 10.8%
The War from the German, Japanese and Italian Perspective
Das Boot 55.6% - Letters from Iwo Jima 44,4%
The Homefront
A League of Their Own 58.9% - A Soldier's Story 41.1%
Dark Comedies
Jojo Rabbit 26.2% - Inglourious Basterds 73.8%
Light Hearted Comedies
Operation Petticoat 42.9% - Top Secret! 57.1%
Sci-Fi / Comic Book / Horror / Fantasy
Captain America: The First Avenger 16.2% - Raiders of the Lost Ark 83.3%
Miscellaneous
We've Never Been Licked 55.2% - From Here to Eternity 44.8%
Bracket Match-ups seeds set by total votes in the previous three rounds
1) Band of Brothers vs 18) The Eagle Has Landed
2) Saving Private Ryan vs 17) Top Secret!
3) Schindler's List vs 16) The Longest Day
4) Inglourious Basterds vs 15) A League of Their Own
5) Patton vs 14} We've Never Been Licked
6) Casablanca vs 13) Memphis Belle
7) Raiders of the Lost Ark vs 12) Das Boot
8) The Great Escape vs 11) U-571
9) The Dirty Dozen vs 10) Sands of Iwo Jima
VOTE HERE!
The Battles
The Longest Day 57.4% - Tora! Tora! Tora! 42.6%
The Ground War
Saving Private Ryan 92.5% - Fury 7.5%
The War on the High Seas
U-571 50.3% - Run Silent Run Deep 49.7%
The Air War
Memphis Belle 69.6% - Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo 30.4%
Mini-Series
The Band of Brothers 91.2% - The Pacific 8.8%
WWII Biopics
Patton 75% - Hacksaw Ridge 25%
John Wayne Movies
They Were Expendable 25.4% - Sands of Iwo Jima 74.6%
Commando Movies
Where Eagles Dare 32.2% - The Dirty Dozen 67.8%
POW Movies
The Great Escape 54.7% - The Bridge on the River Kwai 45.3%
The Resistance
Casablanca 90.6% - A Hidden Life 9,4%
Spy/Espionage Films
The Eagle Has Landed 77.8% - Saboteur 22.2%
Holocaust Related Films
Schindler's List 89.2% - The Diary of Anne Frank (1959) 10.8%
The War from the German, Japanese and Italian Perspective
Das Boot 55.6% - Letters from Iwo Jima 44,4%
The Homefront
A League of Their Own 58.9% - A Soldier's Story 41.1%
Dark Comedies
Jojo Rabbit 26.2% - Inglourious Basterds 73.8%
Light Hearted Comedies
Operation Petticoat 42.9% - Top Secret! 57.1%
Sci-Fi / Comic Book / Horror / Fantasy
Captain America: The First Avenger 16.2% - Raiders of the Lost Ark 83.3%
Miscellaneous
We've Never Been Licked 55.2% - From Here to Eternity 44.8%
Bracket Match-ups seeds set by total votes in the previous three rounds
1) Band of Brothers vs 18) The Eagle Has Landed
2) Saving Private Ryan vs 17) Top Secret!
3) Schindler's List vs 16) The Longest Day
4) Inglourious Basterds vs 15) A League of Their Own
5) Patton vs 14} We've Never Been Licked
6) Casablanca vs 13) Memphis Belle
7) Raiders of the Lost Ark vs 12) Das Boot
8) The Great Escape vs 11) U-571
9) The Dirty Dozen vs 10) Sands of Iwo Jima
VOTE HERE!
I know Raiders will win, but Das Boot should win that matchup. If this is really the best WW2 movie, Indy shouldn't advance.
Raiders of the Lost Ark and A League of their Own, really? I know there is no crying in WWII movie polls, but come on guys.
The "NIT" Round Two Results
The Book Thief 69.6% - The Sound of Music 30.4%
White Christmas 40.95 - 1941 59.1%
When Trumpets Fade 45.5% - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe 54.5%
Conspiracy 52% - The Battle of the Bulge 48%
Round Three (Match-ups for this round were also randomized)
Vote Here
The Book Thief 69.6% - The Sound of Music 30.4%
White Christmas 40.95 - 1941 59.1%
When Trumpets Fade 45.5% - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe 54.5%
Conspiracy 52% - The Battle of the Bulge 48%
Round Three (Match-ups for this round were also randomized)
- Conspiracy (Trailer) (Parsing Words)
- 1941 (Trailer) (The Indomitable Capt. Kelso) (Opening Scene - Possibly NSFW)
- The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (The Blitz)
- The Book Thief (Trailer) (Featurette)
Vote Here
So...the Lion, The Wiitch... is some sort of children's fantasy film.
It was up against a film that dealt with the horrors of combat in the Hurtgen Forest.
Good grief. We are comparing WW 2 films versus children's stuff.
It was up against a film that dealt with the horrors of combat in the Hurtgen Forest.
Good grief. We are comparing WW 2 films versus children's stuff.
JB!98 said:
Raiders of the Lost Ark and A League of their Own, really? I know there is no crying in WWII movie polls, but come on guys.
Raiders over Captain America? Uhhhhh...yeah, every time
Hey Nav said:
So...the Lion, The Wiitch... is some sort of children's fantasy film.
It was up against a film that dealt with the horrors of combat in the Hurtgen Forest.
Good grief. We are comparing WW 2 films versus children's stuff.
Not sure what rock you've been living under that you're unfamiliar with the movie, or at least the book. It's pretty common reading in English curriculum, and in terms of the war, deals with the uncertainty of children as they're sent to the English countryside to hide them from the war. A war movie doesn't have to be about men fighting on the frontlines to be impactful, and a movie dealing with the horrors of combat doesn't make it good.
bluefire579 said:JB!98 said:
Raiders of the Lost Ark and A League of their Own, really? I know there is no crying in WWII movie polls, but come on guys.
Raiders over Captain America? Uhhhhh...yeah, every time
The problem will be if Raiders keeps winning. It's a top 2 or 3 TexAgs entertainment board favorite movie and people many times, automatically vote for what they like best, no matter the context. If Raiders beats Das Boot, fine. It shouldn't, but I'm guessing many people probably haven't seen it or think it's boring. It'll then be matched up against Saving Private Ryan. There is absolutely no reason why Raiders should beat SPR in a poll about World War 2 movies, but it wouldn't shock me. It's the equivalent of saying D'yer Mak'er is the greatest reggae song because Led Zeppelin is your favorite band.
I guess I just never thought of Raiders or League as WWII movies.Bruce Almighty said:bluefire579 said:JB!98 said:
Raiders of the Lost Ark and A League of their Own, really? I know there is no crying in WWII movie polls, but come on guys.
Raiders over Captain America? Uhhhhh...yeah, every time
The problem will be if Raiders keeps winning. It's a top 2 or 3 TexAgs entertainment board favorite movie and people many times, automatically vote for what they like best, no matter the context. If Raiders beats Das Boot, fine. It shouldn't, but I'm guessing many people probably haven't seen it or think it's boring. It'll then be matched up against Saving Private Ryan. There is absolutely no reason why Raiders should beat SPR in a poll about World War 2 movies, but it wouldn't shock me. It's the equivalent of saying D'yer Mak'er is the greatest reggae song because Led Zeppelin is your favorite band.
Okay. I thought a war movie pretty much was about the "frontlines". You know, the war thing. Also, the " horrors of combat" seem to be very pertinent . You know, movies about the war and combat and all that stuff.Quote:
A war movie doesn't have to be about men fighting on the frontlines to be impactful, and a movie dealing with the horrors of combat doesn't make it good.
Child fantasy films are great. Just not relevant to this competition.
To me, a war movie is about men fighting on the frontlines. A movie about the horrors of combat is what it's all about, in my opinion.
But it is a WWII movie.Hey Nav said:Okay. I thought a war movie pretty much was about the "frontlines". You know, the war thing. Also, the " horrors of combat" seem to be very pertinent . You know, movies about the war and combat and all that stuff.Quote:
A war movie doesn't have to be about men fighting on the frontlines to be impactful, and a movie dealing with the horrors of combat doesn't make it good.
Child fantasy films are great. Just not relevant to this competition.
To me, a war movie is about men fighting on the frontlines. A movie about the horrors of combat is what it's all about, in my opinion.
Not every movie set during world war 2 has to have battle scenes
Are you really going to say The Diary of Anne Frank isn't a WW2 movie because there are no fighting forces?
I get your point. Apologies if I was out of line.Quote:
Are you really going to say The Diary of Anne Frank isn't a WW2 movie because there are no fighting forces?
The "NIT" Bracket is made up of 16 films that missed the main tournament either by my oversight by or just did not make the cut. Match-ups in this bracket were entirely by chance. I do not see The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe as a WWII movie but it was suggested so I included it. It contains more WWII combat than a number of films that made the main event including The Best Years of Out Lives, A Hidden Life, Sophie Scholl: The Final Days, Judgment at Nuremberg Since You Went Away. The Great Dictator, To Be or Not to Be. Hollywood Canteen. The More the Merrier, etc. Do these films not belong either? Anyways I decided to have a tournament that covered a number of genres that in someway touch on the WWII Era, not just combat movies.
This is the most passion I've seen around the NIT since Billie Clyde's first year.
Beyond its well known Christian allegory, I would say that the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe, which has a tyrannical head of state deeming other races inferior and committed to wiping out her scapegoat enemy - the humans - while imprisoning anyone who dares oppose her using her secret police force is more about world War 2 than half the films on the big list.
U571 over run silent run deep? Now that's a damned travesty.
Schindler's List vs the Longest Day.
Tough choice.
I have never been able to watch Schindler more than once. Waaay too powerful for me.
Tough choice.
I have never been able to watch Schindler more than once. Waaay too powerful for me.
You had me agreeing with the argument up until this point.Fat Bib Fortuna said:
Beyond its well known Christian allegory, I would say that the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe, which has a tyrannical head of state deeming other races inferior and committed to wiping out her scapegoat enemy - the humans - while imprisoning anyone who dares oppose her using her secret police force is more about world War 2 than half the films on the big list.
I'm really tempted to close the polls now since I agree with the results where they currently stand but will keep them open through Monday morning to give the weekday TexAgers a chance to vote. Both match-ups in the "NIT" are too close to call.
Bib Fortuna suggested that I have a survey asking "how many of these movies have you actually seen?" But of course I can't make it that simple, I'm curious not in just the number but also which films everyone that cares to complete the survey have actually seen. The first question asks how many of the films you've watched, then followed by the list of films in their respective brackets, just check the films you have watched. Thanks in advance!
Take the Survey!
Bib Fortuna suggested that I have a survey asking "how many of these movies have you actually seen?" But of course I can't make it that simple, I'm curious not in just the number but also which films everyone that cares to complete the survey have actually seen. The first question asks how many of the films you've watched, then followed by the list of films in their respective brackets, just check the films you have watched. Thanks in advance!
Take the Survey!
Done.
One thing this survey has done is given me a list of movies I need to watch. Thanks for undertaking this massive task.
One thing this survey has done is given me a list of movies I need to watch. Thanks for undertaking this massive task.
I knew my WW2 movie education needed work, but good grief.
Including the NIT, I've seen 65.
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Monday morning bump. Polls for this round will close around noonish.
Two of the match-ups in the Main Event are still very close, VOTE HERE!
In the "NIT" bracket one contest is a back and forth affair separated by one vote, Vote Here.
And at the suggestion of Fat Bib Fortuna, there is also a survey on the number of films actually watched, Take the Survey!
Two of the match-ups in the Main Event are still very close, VOTE HERE!
In the "NIT" bracket one contest is a back and forth affair separated by one vote, Vote Here.
And at the suggestion of Fat Bib Fortuna, there is also a survey on the number of films actually watched, Take the Survey!
Bracket Match-ups Results
#1 Band of Brothers 98.2% - #18 The Eagle Has Landed 1.8%
#2 Saving Private Ryan 96.4% - #17Top Secret! 3.6%
#3 Schindler's List 57.1% - #16 The Longest Day 49,1%
#4 Inglourious Basterds 73.6% - #15 A League of Their Own 26.4%
#5 Patton 94.4% - #14 - #14 We've Never Been Licked 5.6%
#6 Casablanca 68.5% - #13 Memphis Belle 31.5%
#7 Raiders of the Lost Ark 48.2% - #12 Das Boot 51.8%
#8 The Great Escape 77.8% - #11 U-571 22.2%
#9 The Dirty Dozen 57.4% - #10 The Sands of Iwo Jima 42.6%
The "Play In" Game (VOTE HERE!)
#8 The Great Escape vs #9 The Dirty Dozen
The "NIT" Round Three Results
Conspiracy 51.7% - The Book Thief 48.3%
1941 40% - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe 60%
The Championship (Vote Here)
Conspiracy vs The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
The Survey of films watched is still open.
EDIT: I was getting an error message with The "Play In" Game Poll. Not sure if it was only on my end or not. so made a new poll.
#1 Band of Brothers 98.2% - #18 The Eagle Has Landed 1.8%
#2 Saving Private Ryan 96.4% - #17Top Secret! 3.6%
#3 Schindler's List 57.1% - #16 The Longest Day 49,1%
#4 Inglourious Basterds 73.6% - #15 A League of Their Own 26.4%
#5 Patton 94.4% - #14 - #14 We've Never Been Licked 5.6%
#6 Casablanca 68.5% - #13 Memphis Belle 31.5%
#7 Raiders of the Lost Ark 48.2% - #12 Das Boot 51.8%
#8 The Great Escape 77.8% - #11 U-571 22.2%
#9 The Dirty Dozen 57.4% - #10 The Sands of Iwo Jima 42.6%
The "Play In" Game (VOTE HERE!)
#8 The Great Escape vs #9 The Dirty Dozen
The "NIT" Round Three Results
Conspiracy 51.7% - The Book Thief 48.3%
1941 40% - The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe 60%
The Championship (Vote Here)
Conspiracy vs The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
The Survey of films watched is still open.
EDIT: I was getting an error message with The "Play In" Game Poll. Not sure if it was only on my end or not. so made a new poll.
Disregard. I got Letters from Iwo and Sands of Iwo mixed up in my head.
#8 The Great Escape vs #9 The Dirty Dozen
That's a virtually impossible choice. Came down to which one had Steve McQueen and the most whistleable theme for me.
That's a virtually impossible choice. Came down to which one had Steve McQueen and the most whistleable theme for me.
Morning bump. Will close the polls around 5 this afternoon. Hopefully the Elite 8 will be up soon after. Final 4 Wednesday evening and the Championship Thursday with polls closing sometime Friday depending on a close contest or not.
Don't forget to do the Survey if you have not done so.
Don't forget to do the Survey if you have not done so.
If we were going by whistleable themes Bridge on the River Kwai would win - for Colonel Bogey theme.
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