Rick Dalton said:

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Didn't the couple at the beginning of ep1 say that somebody was murdered at the White Lotus? Don't think it is going to be a natural death.

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i thought they said died.

Damn I think this could be spot on

Had to go back and look. They said their guide told them somebody was killed there. Guess that could mean anything.

So would they be shipping Armond's body to, say, New Zealand (where I presume he's from)? That's the only thing I'm hung up on is why they'd be shipping him off the island if he lives on the island.

My guess was that the daughter kills the friend for some reason (or maybe the other way around). She clearly knows that the friend set up the whole robbery. So maybe she confronts her or the robber and something goes wrong. But I can't figure out why that would make Lacy upset at the airport. So that's probably not it, unless he's just upset bc his wife left him.

Yeah, think that's easily explained by that reason exactly. Although if they are gonna do a season 2, it would kind of suck without Armond

I feel like the death is going to be something completely out of left field, but as of right now I could see it being Paula.

Like others have said, I don't think it's Armond if nothing more than that the season 2 rumors would make a lot less sense if he wasn't in the fold.

Rick Dalton said:

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Had to go back and look. They said their guide told them somebody was killed there. Guess that could mean anything.

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Saying "someone was killed" sure doesn't make me think of an accident resulting in death. That sounds like straight up murder.

joerobert_pete06 said:

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Am I the only one that hates Jennifer Coolidge's character in this show? She is running with the same persona as Legally Blonde which is 20 years old, just can't get over that.

Also, which character ends up dying at the end of the show? The easy guess is the newly wed wife but it maybe it will be the son from a scuba accident.

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No you.re not. I wanted to beat over the head with a club during that melt down with Uncle Rico. I cringe every time she's on camera. I think they could do away her whole story line and it would still be a very good show. Just my opinion.

DannyDuberstein said:

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BLM Greg is a possibility. They've indicated a health issue which I was thinking at first was a bit of a red herring. But a guy accepting crazy Tanya for what she is and then croaking would fit

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Yep. Remember the couching fit he had after banging Jennifer Coolidge? I thought then he may be dying of something and is in Hawaii for one last good time.

Yes I was talking to a friend about her the other night. That's the difficult part about figuring out this show...some things are probably just throwaway but our nature is to try and examine all of them as it pertains to what the outcome is being teased as.

Season two official. Completely new cast, completely different White Lotus location...

.@HBO’s critically acclaimed limited series #TheWhiteLotus, from Mike White, renewed for a second installment: https://t.co/htFcLrPZt2

The next chapter leaves Hawaii behind and follows a different group of vacationers as they jet to another White Lotus property. pic.twitter.com/XEnglXK97r

— HBO PR (@HBOPR) August 10, 2021

gigemJTH12 said:

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anyone else surprised the lady having the baby in episode 1 went away?

It was interesting at the time I am just a little surprised it had no ramifications on the rest of the plot. kind of random

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That specific character might not return, but I would be surprised if *something* having to do with her/the birth didn't have at least a small affect in some way in the finale.

agrree!

Great point.

Going to shoot off a wild prediction on who will die Sunday. 99% chance I am wrong.

Who: Mr. BLM
How: coughing attack while boning Tanya
Why: he's old. He probably has cancer and knows he's going to die any day. That's why he's on this trip. No BLM can afford a place like this.

Interesting that season 2 is going to be a completely new cast/story. Interesting to see who they cast and what the general plot is gonna look like.

King moto moto said:

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Going to shoot off a wild prediction on who will die Sunday. 99% chance I am wrong.

Who: Mr. BLM
How: coughing attack while boning Tanya
Why: he's old. He probably has cancer and knows he's going to die any day. That's why he's on this trip. No BLM can afford a place like this.

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I thought something very similar. I do think he's dying and actually I think that's why he stayed with what's her name. He is trying to do some thing valiant I guess for her knowing that he is going to die. It'll take her focus off all her other troubles anyway. And she won't have lost a man by him leaving her. If he dies then it's something different. And she gets to be kind of a widow then who lost a love.

The travelers said they were told someone was killed.

So, who killed whom?

My guess is that it is related to the bracelets. How is it related? Beats me.

i'd say odds are the hawaiian thief could be the dead guy.

he was very reluctant to begin with, could be overcome by guilt. or just wanting to avoid embarrassment to his family.

non central character but integral to the story - that would devastate what's her name who put him up to it. and cause quite a rift with her friend who would be pretty pissed. We saw how they reacted when the mom was attacked - it literally brought them closer together.

I don't think the dead person will actually be one of the main players anyway.

Seems like it is boiling down to some pretty straightforward plot resolutions.

The family is made better by the dad getting some respect, the son getting some enlightenment outside his devices, and the daughter though this betrayal.

The couple ends up split up for good reason and he deserves it.

I think the **** lady is finally going to get over her mother only to lose this man. - I said earlier I think he dies but stays with her knowing he will die thus helping her not feel like she was dumped for once.

Armond well.... he gonna get fired or a huge awakening some way.

The thief is from there. Wouldnt make sense for his body to be flown out if he dies. I think he and AD are the two of the least likely. I dont think it's any of the Connie Britton family. BLM Greg, Armond, and salad toss boy are my 3 most likely.

I really hope those guys on that row boat arent related to Kai somehow and some type of confrontation results in Quinn getting killed

oragator said:

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Why would the Hawaiian kid be put on a plane when he's from there?

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The plane is to Honolulu. Different island. Maybe he is from there.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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oragator said:

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Why would the Hawaiian kid be put on a plane when he's from there?

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The plane is to Honolulu. Different island. Maybe he is from there.

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He said his family was from the land that The White Lotus is on now.

TopFlightReject said:

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If i had to guess i'm going to say Armond the manager. I noticed Lacy's character at the very beginning still wearing his wedding ring so i'm going to guess Daddario's character is still alive but maybe left because his mom shows up...

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Do you think he would immediately take the ring off his wife died?

SquirrellyDan said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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oragator said:

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Why would the Hawaiian kid be put on a plane when he's from there?

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The plane is to Honolulu. Different island. Maybe he is from there.

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He said his family was from the land that The White Lotus is on now.

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Doesnt mean he or they live there now. I mean quite literally there is a resort there. Maybe they moved when they were displaced.

Is there any chance Rachel *doesn't* leave Shane? Like, it was a huge misdirect and when we cut back to Shane staring out the terminal window, Rachel walks up, joins him, having just been in the bathroom or something? And maybe they reconciled or Shane finally woke up and did something right/noble before the end of the trip? I don't want it to play out that way, and I don't think it will, but just throwing that out there...

then whats he so pissed off about?