Such an unexpected great surprise for me. I had never heard of it and randomly clicked on it even though the graphic art didnt even look enticing.

Great episode, but can't believe the series is over.
Why do all the Laconia stuff?

kapon said:

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Why do all the Laconia stuff?

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Duarte and Laconia play a major role in the last three books. To some degree, Cara and Xan in book 9.

The question is why do it if none of that is going to be in this show?

Even if they are going to bring it back at some point, you could have done all of the Laconia stuff in like a five minute prologue or something.

It's my one beef with the show is that they spent quite a bit of screen time on something that had no impact on the show whatsoever. I know that Duarte helped Inaros but they could have explained that without the Cara/Xan scenes. (Which, if memory serves but it's been a while, aren't even in the book right? (EDIT: They aren't in the main books, but apparently in one of the novellas I didn't read))

bobinator said:

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The question is why do it if none of that is going to be in this show?

Even if they are going to bring it back at some point, you could have done all of the Laconia stuff in like a five minute prologue or something.

It's my one beef with the show is that they spent quite a bit of screen time on something that had no impact on the show whatsoever. I know that Duarte helped Inaros but they could have explained that without the Cara/Xan scenes. (Which, if memory serves but it's been a while, aren't even in the book right? (EDIT: They aren't in the main books, but apparently in one of the novellas I didn't read))

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They're in books 8 & 9, they're in Cortazar's lab and they're the ones connecting with the BFE and with Amos throughout book 9. They have a pretty strong presence in the book.

No I know that, obviously, come on. But I meant that even in the books we didn't get to see their backstory. They just, are, in those books.

But like my edit says, it appears their backstory, as shown in the show, was told in one of the novellas that I didn't read.

bobinator said:

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No I know that, obviously, come on. But I meant that even in the books we didn't get to see their backstory. They just, are, in those books.

But like my edit says, it appears their backstory, as shown in the show, was told in one of the novellas that I didn't read.

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the Churn, The Auberon, and Strange Dogs in that order.

bobinator said:

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No I know that, obviously, come on. But I meant that even in the books we didn't get to see their backstory. They just, are, in those books.

But like my edit says, it appears their backstory, as shown in the show, was told in one of the novellas that I didn't read.

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I'm pretty sure the point was to hook you in to wanting more after the show ends.

I just thought that was an odd choice to include on the show.

Even if a movie or something is coming, I think I'd have made the Cara/Xan scenes the cold open for that.

https://ew.com/tv/the-expanse-season-6-showrunner-interview-preview/

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But perhaps the biggest season 6 question for viewers centers around how much we will see of the planet Laconia, which plays a major role the Expanse books on which the series is based, yet doesn't come into play until book 7 (Persepolis Rising).

The problem is, season 6 was announced as being The Expanse's last at least the last on Amazon (which already saved the show when SyFy walked away after season 3). Is this truly the end of The Expanse? Judging by the showrunner Naren Shankar's decision to adapt the Strange Dogs novella set on Laconia into season 6 to "hopefully hint at a future," maybe the show isn't done after all once the six final episodes have finally unfolded. Read on to hear from Shankar on what fans can expect to see in what may or may not be the Roci's last run.
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All right, you obviously have this big setting of Laconia, which plays a major role in books 7 through 9. So, the natural question is how much will Laconia play a role here in your final season here of season 6?

We left season 5 at the very end with these really big questions hanging over the show. We understood that Marco had used the protomolecule and the scientist who knew how to use it, Cortazar, to pay for all of his warships that he used to win his war. But what were the rogue Martians doing with this protomolecule on this planet? Nobody knew. And then we have on top of that, this thing that eats a ship as it goes through the Ring at the very end.

Well, by incorporating Ty and Daniel's Strange Dogs novella, which I loved, into the season, it allowed us to touch on those ideas, to answer some of the questions, to just kind of pull back the veil on Laconia a little bit, and also connect it to the main narrative. It allowed us to both give some answers but also raise some questions and hopefully hint at a future, which as you know, is books 7, 8, and 9.

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https://ew.com/tv/the-expanse-amazon-season-6-naren-shankar/

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The Expanse, which is based on a book series of the same name by James S.A. Corey (a pen name for authors Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck) has already had a second life after it was canceled by the Syfy channel at the conclusion of season 3. Alcon Television Group, the studio that produces the show, then sold the show to Amazon, who picked up the series for seasons 4 and 5, and then renewed it for what they are billing as a final season 6. But how final is it?

Cast member Dominique Tipper, who plays Belter Naomi Nagata on the show slyly hinted at the possibility of a longer show life on another outlet when she joined castmates Steven Strait and Wes Chatham on EW Live (SiriusXM, channel 109). "Look, this is the end of the TV show on Amazon," said Tipper. "So, we'll just have to see what happens."

EW also spoke with showrunner Naren Shankar, and asked the executive producer whether there could be more life for The Expanse in the form of another channel or streaming outlet, much in the same way the show was rescued by Amazon after Syfy moved on from the project. "You know, honestly, that would be more of a question for our studio, for Alcon, says Shankar. "They control the property, but what I will say is that there's definitely more to tell and I'm sure Ty and Daniel would say exactly the same thing. But yeah, that's probably about as much as I can say at this point."
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bobinator said:

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The question is why do it if none of that is going to be in this show?

Even if they are going to bring it back at some point, you could have done all of the Laconia stuff in like a five minute prologue or something.

It's my one beef with the show is that they spent quite a bit of screen time on something that had no impact on the show whatsoever. I know that Duarte helped Inaros but they could have explained that without the Cara/Xan scenes. (Which, if memory serves but it's been a while, aren't even in the book right? (EDIT: They aren't in the main books, but apparently in one of the novellas I didn't read))

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I don't think they could ignore Laconia because the season end where they show the shipyard in orbit above the planet is a pretty big plot point they just coudln't ignore. I think initially they planned to do it but then the show got cancelled and they had to finish it.

I finally got caught up.
The show was best when the mystery, danger and wonder of the Protomolecule was at its center. The last three years it was barely an afterthought. Even through season 4 where it should have been, most of it was just a grim power struggle story in a grim place, with other plot lines no one cared about, like the UN election.

Season 5 was better, but the whole Marcos thing started to grow old for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which was the overacting from that actor.

So I puckered up for season 6, and finally today got a finale that didn't reunite Filip with his mom, an entire plot line on Laconia that went nowhere, no resolution to Clarissa and her medical death sentence (despite the next book being 30 years from now?), no idea where the protomolecule went (though at least that was talked to), and nothing on why Avseralla was taking the medication.

So yeah, count me in the disappointed camp.

oragator said:

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I finally got caught up.
The show was best when the mystery, danger and wonder of the Protomolecule was at its center. The last three years it was barely an afterthought. Even through season 4 where it should have been, most of it was just a grim power struggle story in a grim place, with other plot lines no one cared about, like the UN election.

Season 5 was better, but the whole Marcos thing started to grow old for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which was the overacting from that actor.

So I puckered up for season 6, and finally today got a finale that didn't reunite Filip with his mom, an entire plot line on Laconia that went nowhere, no resolution to Clarissa and her medical death sentence (despite the next book being 30 years from now?), no idea where the protomolecule went (though at least that was talked to), and nothing on why Avseralla was taking the medication.

So yeah, count me in the disappointed camp.

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Seems like they are heading down the "Lost" route of "Oh well it is really about the characters and you philistines who want a good story are SOL"