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TCTTS said:




"You don't want spoilers but I'm allowed to spoil a big reveal before the finale season drops to get people to watch the show."
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wbt5845 said:

The wine scene was so out of the blue that I figured it must have special significance.

To me, it seemed Gus finally relaxed a bit - raised the blinds, felt safe for the first time in a long time. He then indulged himself with what he has always envisioned himself becoming - rich and cultured.

He goes to the bar to revel in that some and talk wine with his favorite sommelier. He really enjoys it, perhaps feeling happy for the first time in forever.

But the talk of blood and earthiness reminds him he has much work to do to reach his ultimate objective. So a few hours of reveling is all he allows himself before he turns back to the tasks before him.

My 2 cents:

Gus is a divided person. On the one hand, he's a meticulous businessman. On the other, he's consumed with revenge. Incidentally, I think the statements by Nacho's father to Mike were written with Gus in mind. No, not that Nacho's dad was talking about Gus, but that it was to help explain Gus to the audience.

To me, the wine scene was about Gus resolving that he cannot be one or the other, but will always be both. He won't let himself get into another relationship because that kind of relationship manifests as a weakness that can be exploited against him.

Gus had tried to relax and have it all, but he was sad to realize that there was no room in his life for a relationship and that he had already made the choice to be a gangster businessman.

Effective as of that moment leaving the bar, Gus was called away because Gus realized that he was always going to be called away.
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YNWA_AG said:

TCTTS said:




"You don't want spoilers but I'm allowed to spoil a big reveal before the finale season drops to get people to watch the show."

He revealed the Walt/Jesse thing before the season because they knew that's all anyone would be asking in every interview, so they decided to get it out of the way up front, knowing the show had so many more surprises to come (his words). Pretty savvy if you ask me.
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aTmAg said:

Know Your Enemy said:

aTmAg said:

The end of last episode seemed to be a perfect time to have Walter/Jesse show up. Every other pre-BB storyline is wrapped up. I wonder how they are going to do it now without it seeming forced or strange. Seems like doing it in the Teaser and then jumping straight to Gene timeline would be strange. I'm not sure how they are going to pull it off.

The end of the last episode was still 2-3 years pre-BB timeline though.
What more story is there to tell with Saul? I can't think of any. I can think of maybe some with other people, like Gus recruiting Gale and Kim going back to Nebraska to her Mom. But not a whole show worth.

I have no idea but I can't imagine either Walt or Jesse showing up in Omaha so there has to be at least some Saul content in the BB timeline coming tonight and/or in the next few weeks.
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If you watch the Vanity Fair YouTube video I posted earlier, they reveal that...

Spoiler:

Walt + Jesse appear multiple times in the last few episodes.
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I think the biggest thing for how the Kim/Jimmy story ends is how it completes their respective character arcs. What else is there for them to do to "end" our study of their characters?

The one thing I can think of is that the do reunite in Omaha, they're obviously happy to see each other, and immediately start working on some sort of exit strategy to run off together. Their plan includes a little slippin' Jimmy and coercion Kim. They get it all laid out ready to execute, but then both come to the realization that it's not the right thing to do, and mutually agree to split up and go off on their own.

It wouldn't be a very "fun" ending, but it would complete their arcs.
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MW03 said:

wbt5845 said:

The wine scene was so out of the blue that I figured it must have special significance.

To me, it seemed Gus finally relaxed a bit - raised the blinds, felt safe for the first time in a long time. He then indulged himself with what he has always envisioned himself becoming - rich and cultured.

He goes to the bar to revel in that some and talk wine with his favorite sommelier. He really enjoys it, perhaps feeling happy for the first time in forever.

But the talk of blood and earthiness reminds him he has much work to do to reach his ultimate objective. So a few hours of reveling is all he allows himself before he turns back to the tasks before him.

My 2 cents:

Gus is a divided person. On the one hand, he's a meticulous businessman. On the other, he's consumed with revenge. Incidentally, I think the statements by Nacho's father to Mike were written with Gus in mind. No, not that Nacho's dad was talking about Gus, but that it was to help explain Gus to the audience.

To me, the wine scene was about Gus resolving that he cannot be one or the other, but will always be both. He won't let himself get into another relationship because that kind of relationship manifests as a weakness that can be exploited against him.

Gus had tried to relax and have it all, but he was sad to realize that there was no room in his life for a relationship and that he had already made the choice to be a gangster businessman.

Effective as of that moment leaving the bar, Gus was called away because Gus realized that he was always going to be called away.
I honestly feel bad for Gus. He has millions upon millions of dollars, but can't do anything fun with his life because he's 100% dedicated to making sure Los Pollos Hermanos and his criminal enterprise are functioning.

Like does this guy ever get to spend $150k to go on a 17-night Mediterranean LGBT cruise? What does he have all this money for?
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Maybe it's not about the money.
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Malachi Constant said:

MW03 said:

wbt5845 said:

The wine scene was so out of the blue that I figured it must have special significance.

To me, it seemed Gus finally relaxed a bit - raised the blinds, felt safe for the first time in a long time. He then indulged himself with what he has always envisioned himself becoming - rich and cultured.

He goes to the bar to revel in that some and talk wine with his favorite sommelier. He really enjoys it, perhaps feeling happy for the first time in forever.

But the talk of blood and earthiness reminds him he has much work to do to reach his ultimate objective. So a few hours of reveling is all he allows himself before he turns back to the tasks before him.

My 2 cents:

Gus is a divided person. On the one hand, he's a meticulous businessman. On the other, he's consumed with revenge. Incidentally, I think the statements by Nacho's father to Mike were written with Gus in mind. No, not that Nacho's dad was talking about Gus, but that it was to help explain Gus to the audience.

To me, the wine scene was about Gus resolving that he cannot be one or the other, but will always be both. He won't let himself get into another relationship because that kind of relationship manifests as a weakness that can be exploited against him.

Gus had tried to relax and have it all, but he was sad to realize that there was no room in his life for a relationship and that he had already made the choice to be a gangster businessman.

Effective as of that moment leaving the bar, Gus was called away because Gus realized that he was always going to be called away.
I honestly feel bad for Gus. He has millions upon millions of dollars, but can't do anything fun with his life because he's 100% dedicated to making sure Los Pollos Hermanos and his criminal enterprise are functioning.

Like does this guy ever get to spend $150k to go on a 17-night Mediterranean LGBT cruise? What does he have all this money for?
Ha! I agree - enjoy your successes, Gus! How about a NYC trip for some Broadway? Or at least an afternoon of sledding at White Sands.

But in reality it was not about the money or the (wo)men, just about the power - specifically the erosion of Salamanca and Eladio power and then ultimately the power to take revenge, his singular goal.
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Jesus today is dragging. Let's freaking go!
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aTmAg said:

Know Your Enemy said:

aTmAg said:

The end of last episode seemed to be a perfect time to have Walter/Jesse show up. Every other pre-BB storyline is wrapped up. I wonder how they are going to do it now without it seeming forced or strange. Seems like doing it in the Teaser and then jumping straight to Gene timeline would be strange. I'm not sure how they are going to pull it off.

The end of the last episode was still 2-3 years pre-BB timeline though.
What more story is there to tell with Saul? I can't think of any. I can think of maybe some with other people, like Gus recruiting Gale and Kim going back to Nebraska to her Mom. But not a whole show worth.
There was a scene in BB where Saul asks Francesca exactly where she will be on November 12th at 3pm, insinuating that she is supposed to answer a call at exactly that date/time each year. It was a small scene, but I'm wondering and it has been speculated on if maybe we learn what that was all about and if it will perhaps tie in with Kim. Based on the drivers licenses shown earlier in the series, that is Jimmy's birthday, so perhaps it is the one day a year he still hears from Kim in the BB timeline.

Otherwise though, in the scheme of things we really don't know a lot about Saul in the BB timeline outside of the interactions we see him have with Walt/Jesse. I don't know if it would add much to the story, but they could really go anywhere with his character during that timeline without it having a real impact on or create continuity issues with BB.
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I wish I could just watch the "Previously on Better Call Saul" intro right now....
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Topher17 said:

aTmAg said:

Know Your Enemy said:

aTmAg said:

The end of last episode seemed to be a perfect time to have Walter/Jesse show up. Every other pre-BB storyline is wrapped up. I wonder how they are going to do it now without it seeming forced or strange. Seems like doing it in the Teaser and then jumping straight to Gene timeline would be strange. I'm not sure how they are going to pull it off.

The end of the last episode was still 2-3 years pre-BB timeline though.
What more story is there to tell with Saul? I can't think of any. I can think of maybe some with other people, like Gus recruiting Gale and Kim going back to Nebraska to her Mom. But not a whole show worth.
There was a scene in BB where Saul asks Francesca exactly where she will be on November 12th at 3pm, insinuating that she is supposed to answer a call at exactly that date/time each year. It was a small scene, but I'm wondering and it has been speculated on if maybe we learn what that was all about and if it will perhaps tie in with Kim. Based on the drivers licenses shown earlier in the series, that is Jimmy's birthday, so perhaps it is the one day a year he still hears from Kim in the BB timeline.

Otherwise though, in the scheme of things we really don't know a lot about Saul in the BB timeline outside of the interactions we see him have with Walt/Jesse. I don't know if it would add much to the story, but they could really go anywhere with his character during that timeline without it having a real impact on or create continuity issues with BB.
It was in the BB timeline but it was actually on BCS. That definitely has to be explained.
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TCTTS said:

YNWA_AG said:

TCTTS said:




"You don't want spoilers but I'm allowed to spoil a big reveal before the finale season drops to get people to watch the show."

He revealed the Walt/Jesse thing before the season because they knew that's all anyone would be asking in every interview, so they decided to get it out of the way up front, knowing the show had so many more surprises to come (his words). Pretty savvy if you ask me.


I understand, still think it is funny that Walt/Jesse is probably what he is referring too.
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Malachi Constant said:

It's going to be tough to say goodbye to the current one-two punch of Westworld on Sunday night and Better Call Saul on Monday night.

Agreed. At least Westworld leads straight into House of the Dragon on Sunday nights next month. But yeah, that Monday night hole is going to be pretty big.
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I'm not even sure if I can muster the strength to watch HotD - I just have no enthusiasm after the way GoT ended...
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I don't blame you.
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Malachi Constant said:

I'm not even sure if I can muster the strength to watch HotD - I just have no enthusiasm after the way GoT ended...

My wife wants to watch it and I told her she can watch it without me. I don't really have any interest.
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I think I may actually watch tonight's episode live. I can't bear to wait any longer. I'll use the commercial breaks to catch my breath.
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Know Your Enemy said:

I think I may actually watch tonight's episode live. I can't bear to wait any longer. I'll use the commercial breaks to catch my breath.


At least do yourself a favor and wait 15 minutes to start it. The commercial breaks are ridiculously long.
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That's what I usually do but sometimes it's so intense it's nice to have a few minutes to breathe before the show starts up again.
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My dog has enjoyed 8pm walks on Mondays. Perfect delay to then come back and watch commercial free
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Malachi Constant said:

Know Your Enemy said:

I think I may actually watch tonight's episode live. I can't bear to wait any longer. I'll use the commercial breaks to catch my breath.


At least do yourself a favor and wait 15 minutes to start it. The commercial breaks are ridiculously long.


I've been watching so much Hulu that I forget I can fast forward commercials.
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I'm waiting 15 mins so I can ffwd too.


Wonder if we will see Gene Tacavic tonight??
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Here we go
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Gene's back.
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The fake snow is throwing me off
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Are we really expected to believe this is the same dude playing the cab driver? He looks completely different.
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They are talking about this game from 2010



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Shut up Jerry
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Does Gene know how loud Kyle Field fiddinda be?
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Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

I've got to think we are overdue for a flash-forward to Saul managing the Cinnabon, with him reaching out to the cabby you IDed him at some point.

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If the John Madden rent-a-cop didn't already have the beetus, he sure does now.
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Should have waited 10 years for the George Floyd riots. Would have got it all.
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Where was "conference realignment talk" on the odds board for tonight's episode?
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