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Gene had a line somewhere in there talking about finding "Zippy", where he said "everything has a happy ending".

When he said it, I got the feeling that there would not be a happy ending for Gene.
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Not sure why anyone would have ever expected a happy ending from this show.
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As mentioned previously, the store won't notice a few items missing until inventory happens, hence Jimmy emphasizing, "Only get three of each thing." These (and those) days, full blown inventory is either once a year or once every six months- usually when it's time for the next season's stock to come in. That's why you see end of season clearance sales; the less there is on the shelves, the less there is to count/send back/ship off to discount places like Ross or Burlington. And since the heist took place in early/mid-November the store won't go through the trouble of doing an inventory leading up to the holiday shopping season. It will be January before they realize anything is unaccounted for and will write it off to holiday shoplifting. The merch could easily be disposed of during this same time frame so it will be long gone before the store ever knows it's missing.

A few other things that stuck out- when he grabbed the suits he pulled them off the hangers and left the empty hangers on the rack. You never see an empty hanger on a rack so that would raise a flag, especially to the manager who struck me as having near Gus-level attention to detail. I kept thinking the cabbie would turn a corner in the store and run into maintenance cleaning the scuff off the floor. It was a bit of shock when they weren't and the slip happened on the spot that had been recently buffed/polished. I also thought he would get back in the crate with the goods and be picked up the next morning. It was dicey hiding out in the restroom overnight waiting for the store to open. That's not a well thought-out step. Too many things could go wrong in that scenario.
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aTmAg said:

Bunk Moreland said:

It's a clothing department store. Even when they do inventory they'll likely not know things are missing because they took so few of each item.

Additionally the first thought won't be to go look at the tapes, especially if they erase in 72 hours. I don't think we ever see the situation get escalated from the store side. It was a clean heist. If anything happens it will be from the cab driver screwing up on his own and implicating Jimmy to police.
And I didn't mention watching video. I know that would be a dead end.

Oh, well then why'd you bring up the guards at all?

1) They are going to talk to the guards who are going to be accused of incompetence. They will be asked if they have violated any policy or if anything had been unusually recently. They almost certainly will mention Gene. And now the police are looking into Gene, which is the last thing Gene wants. They aren't going to talk to the overnight guards because if they ever did realize stuff was missing (they won't because of so few of each SKU), they'd assume it happened during the daytime when the overnight guys weren't working.

2) The police are going to talk to the store manager who will likely remember the crate. The guards will be asked if they remember the crate. Jerry might remember that Gene balled his eyes out that particular day, and how strange and out of place it was. Again, pointing the finger squarely at Gene. See above...if they ever realize SKU's are missing they'll start by thinking it happened during store hours...likely begin by telling their own staff and wondering if one of them slipped out with the items and then be more alert during hours of operation.

3) The Taxi driver is going to continue to break the law. He is going to get captured someday. Then he has the ultimate bargaining chip: Saul Goodman. well no ***** But Jimmy had to scratch the itch and he is always a short-term thinker...at that moment he had to erase concern of being outed by the guy so this was his only bargaining chip in doing so.
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I also think Jimmy/Saul/Gene feels he can control those two thieves so while the heist does pose some risk it's less than before now that he has plenty to hang over their heads. And for him, the goods don't matter. He didn't pull this for the money.
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Some people like the Breaking Bad characters - Mike, Gus, Hector - and they are now gone and those fans may not like episodes without those characters. The show was also high stakes breakneck pace for quite a few episodes in Season 6 - Nacho hunt and death, Lalo trying to get an angle on Gus, Howard's death, Lalo's death, Kim and Jimmy break up - it's a victim of it's own pace with some viewers who feel this episode was too slow, not dramatic enough.

I think that type of feedback is understandable, but it's how it is presented - some people admit they liked the BB characters, or that this was too slow, and say "not my favorite episode" while others say "this episode was dumb" or "director is a typical hollywood bundle of sticks" (flagged to no avail). I think big time fans of the show might react negatively to those last two response types.
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C1NRB said:

As mentioned previously, the store won't notice a few items missing until inventory happens, hence Jimmy emphasizing, "Only get three of each thing." These (and those) days, full blown inventory is either once a year or once every six months- usually when it's time for the next season's stock to come in. That's why you see end of season clearance sales; the less there is on the shelves, the less there is to count/send back/ship off to discount places like Ross or Burlington. And since the heist took place in early/mid-November the store won't go through the trouble of doing an inventory leading up to the holiday shopping season. It will be January before they realize anything is unaccounted for and will write it off to holiday shoplifting. The merch could easily be disposed of during this same time frame so it will be long gone before the store ever knows it's missing.

A few other things that stuck out- when he grabbed the suits he pulled them off the hangers and left the empty hangers on the rack. You never see an empty hanger on a rack so that would raise a flag, especially to the manager who struck me as having near Gus-level attention to detail. I kept thinking the cabbie would turn a corner in the store and run into maintenance cleaning the scuff off the floor. It was a bit of shock when they weren't and the slip happened on the spot that had been recently buffed/polished. I also thought he would get back in the crate with the goods and be picked up the next morning. It was dicey hiding out in the restroom overnight waiting for the store to open. That's not a well thought-out step. Too many things could go wrong in that scenario.
I think it looked like he started to pull them off the hanger, but if you watch again I'm pretty sure he brought the hangers with him.
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I'm loving the new timeline because we are now back in a spot where we have absolutely no idea where it will go. Very happy they left 4 episodes for this vs 1. That's partly why last night didn't bother me at all. Gene getting the Jimmy bug, likely starting the first domino to the end
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I loved this episode. It was a great look at how Gene can't resist being Saul and/or Slippin' Jimmy. That's just who he is. Seeing the detail that goes into his plans is one of my favorite bits of the show. The show runners and Jimmy/Saul/Gene put in the work to get the details correct.

I read Sepinwall's review and found it kind of odd that he thought this was the end of Gene's story. Surely we will see Gene and Kim reconnect in Nebraska. I'd be pretty shocked if there isn't some kind of interaction. I still think we will spend some time in the Breaking Bad timeline with Saul, too.

I loved the college football talk with Jerry/Gary/Larry. I figured the board would get a kick out of that.
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Bunk Moreland said:


But Jimmy had to scratch the itch and he is always a short-term thinker...at that moment he had to erase concern of being outed by the guy so this was his only bargaining chip in doing so.
It was not the only bargaining chip. He should have left and found another state. And grown a beard.
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1. After last week, I was excited to see Saul during the heights of BB, with him wheeling and dealing on the side as Walt and Jessie cooked meth.

When we opened to a black and white screen, I was disappointed that we were getting Gene but that disappointment lasted about a minute until we learned about Nippy and saw Slippin' Gene.

2. From the opening scene of s1e1, we were promised a storyline of Gene in Saul's post BB life. Episodes featuring Gene were inevitable.

3. Inherently, Gene's story would not feature any of the characters who were in hiding or killed off during BB or BCS.

No Walt, Jessie, Mike, or Gus. No Chuck, Howard, Nacho, or Lalo. Small chance of Badger, Skinny Pete, Cliff Main or Kevin Wachtell. Decent chance of Kim.

Low likelihood of cartel and drugs. Decent likelihood of conman shenanigans.

Gene's story would be a smaller story on a smaller scale.

4. Last night's episodes wrapped up the previous Gene plot (taxi driver blackmail), introduced both the arc (Gene reverting back to Saul) and the character stakes (Gene being alone in life and having no one).

Gene's confession to distract mall cop Gerry was more heartfelt than intended. He choked up when mentioning how his brother was dead and that if he died, no one would notice. I expect this does end with some reunification with Kim, or a missed possibility thereof.
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I wish they never did black and white for the Gene timeline. They didn't do any B&W for BB flashbacks (just the for a few minutes here and there for season 2 teasers). Not sure why they chose to do so here. I was not a fan of watching the entire episode that way. I hope we don't have much more of that. It's not like this is Schindler's List or anything.
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I really thought that when he hung up the shirt at the end, we would be getting a slow fade to color, showing us Jimmy is back...
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Duckhook said:

TCTTS said:

Honestly, the thing I was rooting for the most this episode was just one, off-handed mention of A&M amongst all the Nebraska/Big XII talk. There were so many chances, too. It would have been the perfect marriage of show and thread and this place would have absolutely lost its mind.

Ha, I told my wife, "if he's pissed about the Texas game, wait until they play us in a few weeks."

I was at Nebraska 2010!


That game was o e of the loudest
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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I was completely expecting Gene to see or run into Kim when he was taking that lunch break at the end of the episode.
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Teddy Perkins said:

I was completely expecting Gene to see or run into Kim when he was taking that lunch break at the end of the episode.


Who was he talking to in the car in the teaser after the credits?
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aTmAg said:

My issue with the heist is several fold:

1) They are going to talk to the guards who are going to be accused of incompetence. They will be asked if they have violated any policy or if anything had been unusually recently. They almost certainly will mention Gene. And now the police are looking into Gene, which is the last thing Gene wants.

2) The police are going to talk to the store manager who will likely remember the crate. The guards will be asked if they remember the crate. Jerry might remember that Gene balled his eyes out that particular day, and how strange and out of place it was. Again, pointing the finger squarely at Gene.

3) The Taxi driver is going to continue to break the law. He is going to get captured someday. Then he has the ultimate bargaining chip: Saul Goodman.

For a guy who was 10 steps ahead of Howard, this heist seemed awfully short sighted.


What probably SHOULD happen is that the police start closing in on him, and Saul vacuums himself off to another state. But we don't have time for that, and the vacuum actor is dead.


Final note: The Walter and Jesse rumors have been dead wrong so far. And frankly, now that we are 100% in the Gene timeline, a Walter/Jesse appearance makes no sense. It would have to be a flashback (which would seem awkward now). What if the entire Walter/Jesse rumor has been a giant head fake by AMC? That they knew there would be no appearance, wanted to get eyeballs on TVs anyway so they started this rumor? And that they told Vince to say nothing? That would be TERRIBLE. I should say, I do not believe this is the case. I think they will have a flash back in the final episode, and it will be awesome. But I will admit, that I'm starting to get a hint of worry.
There it is, folks. The most aTmAg Entertainment Board post of all time.
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TexAgs91 said:

Teddy Perkins said:

I was completely expecting Gene to see or run into Kim when he was taking that lunch break at the end of the episode.


Who was he talking to in the car in the teaser after the credits?
Wasn't that a replay of the conversation that Kim and Jimmy had in the garage after Howard's memorial at HHM?
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A little look back ar a cherished piece of TexAgs history:

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Duckhook said:

cr0wbar said:

Some of y'all are addicted to tik tok and it shows. Fun, intense, and humorous hour of television and y'all want to be spoon fed your answers. Jfc

This episode would have been fine in season 4 or 5, or maybe the first half of this last season. But what did it do to advance the story when it's almost finished? Nothing.

A good chef can put a turd in front of me, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's a Baby Ruth just because he's served me good meals before. As episode 10 of 13 in the last season, this was a turd.
You think a Baby Ruth is something a good chef would serve?
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Tobias Funke said:

aTmAg said:

My issue with the heist is several fold:

1) They are going to talk to the guards who are going to be accused of incompetence. They will be asked if they have violated any policy or if anything had been unusually recently. They almost certainly will mention Gene. And now the police are looking into Gene, which is the last thing Gene wants.

2) The police are going to talk to the store manager who will likely remember the crate. The guards will be asked if they remember the crate. Jerry might remember that Gene balled his eyes out that particular day, and how strange and out of place it was. Again, pointing the finger squarely at Gene.

3) The Taxi driver is going to continue to break the law. He is going to get captured someday. Then he has the ultimate bargaining chip: Saul Goodman.

For a guy who was 10 steps ahead of Howard, this heist seemed awfully short sighted.


What probably SHOULD happen is that the police start closing in on him, and Saul vacuums himself off to another state. But we don't have time for that, and the vacuum actor is dead.


Final note: The Walter and Jesse rumors have been dead wrong so far. And frankly, now that we are 100% in the Gene timeline, a Walter/Jesse appearance makes no sense. It would have to be a flashback (which would seem awkward now). What if the entire Walter/Jesse rumor has been a giant head fake by AMC? That they knew there would be no appearance, wanted to get eyeballs on TVs anyway so they started this rumor? And that they told Vince to say nothing? That would be TERRIBLE. I should say, I do not believe this is the case. I think they will have a flash back in the final episode, and it will be awesome. But I will admit, that I'm starting to get a hint of worry.
There it is, folks. The most aTmAg Entertainment Board post of all time.
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Tobias Funke said:

Duckhook said:

cr0wbar said:

Some of y'all are addicted to tik tok and it shows. Fun, intense, and humorous hour of television and y'all want to be spoon fed your answers. Jfc

This episode would have been fine in season 4 or 5, or maybe the first half of this last season. But what did it do to advance the story when it's almost finished? Nothing.

A good chef can put a turd in front of me, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's a Baby Ruth just because he's served me good meals before. As episode 10 of 13 in the last season, this was a turd.
You think a Baby Ruth is something a good chef would serve?

A good chef can do magic with anything. Except maybe a turd.
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Tobias Funke said:

aTmAg said:

My issue with the heist is several fold:

1) They are going to talk to the guards who are going to be accused of incompetence. They will be asked if they have violated any policy or if anything had been unusually recently. They almost certainly will mention Gene. And now the police are looking into Gene, which is the last thing Gene wants.

2) The police are going to talk to the store manager who will likely remember the crate. The guards will be asked if they remember the crate. Jerry might remember that Gene balled his eyes out that particular day, and how strange and out of place it was. Again, pointing the finger squarely at Gene.

3) The Taxi driver is going to continue to break the law. He is going to get captured someday. Then he has the ultimate bargaining chip: Saul Goodman.

For a guy who was 10 steps ahead of Howard, this heist seemed awfully short sighted.


What probably SHOULD happen is that the police start closing in on him, and Saul vacuums himself off to another state. But we don't have time for that, and the vacuum actor is dead.


Final note: The Walter and Jesse rumors have been dead wrong so far. And frankly, now that we are 100% in the Gene timeline, a Walter/Jesse appearance makes no sense. It would have to be a flashback (which would seem awkward now). What if the entire Walter/Jesse rumor has been a giant head fake by AMC? That they knew there would be no appearance, wanted to get eyeballs on TVs anyway so they started this rumor? And that they told Vince to say nothing? That would be TERRIBLE. I should say, I do not believe this is the case. I think they will have a flash back in the final episode, and it will be awesome. But I will admit, that I'm starting to get a hint of worry.
There it is, folks. The most aTmAg Entertainment Board post of all time.
Which makes it the best Entertainment Board post of all time.
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How about the message that BCS is over being that the intro video that has been increasingly deteriorating all season, finally died. That to me was absolute foreshadowing!!!
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Malachi Constant said:

I really thought that when he hung up the shirt at the end, we would be getting a slow fade to color, showing us Jimmy is back...
That would be Saul, not Jimmy.
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I spent about 20 mins in the end of that episode terrified that Jimmy/Gene was going to watch the poor floor buffer dude get murdered over the guard's shoulder.

When the cabbie beefed it, I was actually relieved.

Then I was sad we didn't get cabbie murdering the floor buffer scene.

What is wrong with me?
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fatdad84ag said:

How about the message that BCS is over being that the intro video that has been increasingly deteriorating all season, finally died. That to me was absolute foreshadowing!!!
Missed that. Will have to go back and check it out.
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Thought that was awesome. It's been cool to see the intro deteriorate over the past 6 seasons.
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Hey Nav said:

So do I have the timeline somewhat correct? ... Walt dies on Sept 7, 2010. The tu/Nebraska game was about 5 weeks later.

(And the Gabe Bock "Meathead " moniker was born on Texags later in the season, after Brandon's camera was assaulted.)
Saul and Walt get "disappeared" in March 2010.

When packing up his office and destroying evidence in March 2010, Saul tells Francesca to be ready for a call November 12th at 3PM. Said as in "that year". So Francesca to get called by someone on November 12th, 2010. November 12th 2010 was a Friday, that date wasn't their wedding anniversary or anniversary of scam leading to special tequila bottle, I couldn't find any significance to the date.

Gene and the security guard talk about Martinez's record freshman passing record in the Oklahoma State game that occurred Oct 23rd, 2010. So that is getting close to November 12th. Of course, no guarantees there aren't flash backs or flashforwards in next 3 episodes to fill time - that call might be in the final episode.



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aTmAg said:

I wish they never did black and white for the Gene timeline. They didn't do any B&W for BB flashbacks (just the for a few minutes here and there for season 2 teasers). Not sure why they chose to do so here. I was not a fan of watching the entire episode that way. I hope we don't have much more of that. It's not like this is Schindler's List or anything.
Gene has been a flashforward, not a flashback, not that comparison to anything done in Breaking Bad is relevant to their Gene scene choices anyway. I took it more as living as Gene, in a mall, not running any Slippin Jimmy scams, is a dull, drab, colorless experience for our protagonist.
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Complete Idiot said:

Hey Nav said:

So do I have the timeline somewhat correct? ... Walt dies on Sept 7, 2010. The tu/Nebraska game was about 5 weeks later.

(And the Gabe Bock "Meathead " moniker was born on Texags later in the season, after Brandon's camera was assaulted.)
When packing up his office and destroying evidence in March 2010, Saul tells Francesca to be ready for a call November 12th at 3PM. Said as in "that year". So Francesca to get called by someone on November 10th, 2010.
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Complete Idiot said:

aTmAg said:

I wish they never did black and white for the Gene timeline. They didn't do any B&W for BB flashbacks (just the for a few minutes here and there for season 2 teasers). Not sure why they chose to do so here. I was not a fan of watching the entire episode that way. I hope we don't have much more of that. It's not like this is Schindler's List or anything.
Gene has been a flashforward, not a flashback, not that comparison to anything done in Breaking Bad is relevant to their Gene scene choices anyway. I took it more as living as Gene, in a mall, not running any Slippin Jimmy scams, is a dull, drab, colorless experience for our protagonist.
The plane crash flash forwards in BB were also in black & white.
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Know Your Enemy said:

Complete Idiot said:

Hey Nav said:

So do I have the timeline somewhat correct? ... Walt dies on Sept 7, 2010. The tu/Nebraska game was about 5 weeks later.

(And the Gabe Bock "Meathead " moniker was born on Texags later in the season, after Brandon's camera was assaulted.)
When packing up his office and destroying evidence in March 2010, Saul tells Francesca to be ready for a call November 12th at 3PM. Said as in "that year". So Francesca to get called by someone on November 10th, 2010.
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Oh good lord, a typo. Corrected - and added a bit more I forgot to type.
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So did anyone catch that Jeff's mom said he got tangled up with some bad people in ABQ? Sounds like that could come back into play.
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To put a positive spin on the debacle that has been the last 5
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That episode was better than 95 percent of what's on Tv. The fact that the standards for this show are so insanely high that people were disappointed with it speaks to how great it has truly been.
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