Quinn said:
Definitely felt that way. I've gone from thinking him and Kim get some sort of satisfying interaction and/or reunion to know thinking that he ends up in complete ruin. Though I do think we will see Kim one more time, just that it will only be painful for everyone involved.
It shows his drink in the very first BCS episode flash forward if people want to go back and watch and see what it is:
Brian Earl Spilner said:That's because he played Jesse Pinkman.Pignorant said:
Cranston looked and sounded like Walter White.
Aaron Paul… not so much.
johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
She was incredible. There's no BCS without her. So I guess it's appropriate that BCS "officially" ended with her packing in the apartment. Since then it's felt completely different…which I'm sure was the whole point. We feel a little of what Jimmy/Saul felt.CoolAggie said:
Have enjoyed the last two episodes but the it does feel kind of empty without Rhea Seehorn. Kim Wexler really took over the storyline and made BCS an even better show.
Yeah, I just haven't been able to convince myself that Jimmy is completely gone. Throughout this whole series we've seen his humanity slip back in, even as "Saul" escalated. I'm hoping we see it one last time.TCTTS said:
I just think that if it were as simple as Jimmy trying to collect enough money, in desperation, to go to see Kim, even though she told him off on the phone, they would have *showed* us that. But they HID the call on purpose. Which means they have something up their sleeve. Again, I don't think Jimmy gets a happy ending any way you slice it, but I'm not yet sold on the idea that Saul has won the fight for Jimmy's soul. There *might* be good in him yet.
He's definitely suddenly doing his best to earn a lot of money for SOME reason, we just don't know it. A few decent ideas, but I dont suspect any of them are correct. I dont have a better suggestion thoughTCTTS said:
I just think that if it were as simple as Jimmy trying to collect enough money, in desperation, to go to see Kim, even though she told him off on the phone, they would have *showed* us that. But they HID the call on purpose. Which means they have something up their sleeve. Again, I don't think Jimmy gets a happy ending any way you slice it, but I'm not yet sold on the idea that Saul has won the fight for Jimmy's soul. There *might* be good in him yet.
Incredible storytelling. And while I grew to love BB…there's just something special about BCS for me that hits deeper. I think Kim is a huge part of that.Bosco said:
I think Saul's end will parallel Walter's in some form.
I do remember an interview with the writers and one of them saying something like "[the characters'] actions should have consequences."
Just when I've cooled (from the Howard fiasco) and began to feel bad once again for Gene…he does this.
The writers do an unbelievable job of toying with our emotions towards certain characters and I'm here for it….fantastic work.
"Saul Gone" sounds ominous…..
I do want one last glimpse of Kim before we go. I still feel some bits of heartache from when she left Jimmy….will we get some kind of closure here?
Gigem314 said:She was incredible. There's no BCS without her. So I guess it's appropriate that BCS "officially" ended with her packing in the apartment. Since then it's felt completely different…which I'm sure was the whole point. We feel a little of what Jimmy/Saul felt.CoolAggie said:
Have enjoyed the last two episodes but the it does feel kind of empty without Rhea Seehorn. Kim Wexler really took over the storyline and made BCS an even better show.
"...suspect is hatless, repeat hatless."TexasAggie008 said:
Other guesses / thoughts -
- the public prosecutor-turned-defense attorney in ABQ will surely be involved in the final 2 eps....Gene could utilize him if/when he's busted, or Kim could utilize him either for herself (if she's now roped into the Saul manhunt) or for Gene/Jimmy (if they end up being on good terms / working together after all)
- whatever $ Gene hoped was still out there was earmarked for something very specific and he's planned since fleeing to Omaha to grab it once he the heat was finally turned down enough.....obv hoping Francesca would confirm on this phone call that the time is "now". Instead the news is: heat is still on and theres $0 left.
- we're supposed to guess from the next (Kim) call, which they purposely gave no audio of, that she told him something along the lines of f off....or maybe she told him that she's sickened by what she's seen on the news and heard from Francesca about his involvement in the Heisenberg story and she's helping the feds / reporting the fact that he's called...etc etc
but it feel like the real question is - what big plot twist / surprise are we in for when we hear the true contents of the call? because the above seems too predictable. I could see next week's ep being Kim-heavy, and ultimately showing her end of the phone call.
- pie in the sky guess as to what the "surprise" is: Kim has had a rough time since leaving, and is now very sick (cancer?) or at minimum desperately needs $$ for whatever reason......not sure if Jimmy only knows this from Francessca's talking to kim, or if Jimmy/Kim talked a time or two between her leaving and now...but either way, he learns the $$ is wiped out...and in his next call to Kim he learns the situation is even more desperate than he'd thought, which makes the $$ being gone even worse.
fast forward to him desperately scraping together scheme $$ however he can, including (ironically) stealing from a guy with cancer .... and his intrigue with Walt's story as we see in the flashbacks
Payphone acting is truly an art.#BreakingBad #BetterCallSaul #ThePost pic.twitter.com/0UEW9UbpFF
— Brian Davids (@PickYourBrian) August 1, 2022
https://www.vulture.com/article/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-kim-wexler-status.htmlQuote:
But how is Kim Wexler doing?
There is no way to know whether Kim is happy, sad, or meh, but the evidence suggests her life is at least a lot less stressful. She works at a place called Palm Coast Sprinklers, a job that, I assume, does not put her in contact with a ton of murderous drug dealers. She also lives in Titusville, a town that seems deliberately chosen for its proximity to Cape Canaveral and the Kennedy Space Center. It's fitting for Kim Wexler, an attorney who came so close to greatness on her own terms, to live adjacent to a place where people regularly shoot for the stars.
Kim appears to have set very specific boundaries around her contact with Jimmy, which is to say she wants nothing to do with him. When Jimmy reaches Palm Coast Sprinklers and asks to speak with her, we can't hear what's said next because of the sound of Nebraska-highway traffic. But Jimmy immediately turns animated and angry, which implies that the receptionist has been instructed not to put through any calls that sound like they're coming from the con artist Kim once called her husband.
It is clear, from Kim's call to Francesca to Jimmy's almost boyish response to hearing about that call ("She asked about me?"), that neither has forgotten about the other. Even though their relationship is over, they still carry it with them Jimmy literally, in the form of his Kansas City Royals lunch box, a nod to Kim's favorite T-shirt. The question now is whether we'll get to see Kim again on Better Call Saul and in what context. Maybe she'll visit Jimmy in jail? Or testify against him in court?
TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
Duckhook said:TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
Once again the condescending attitude towards anybody who doesn't like everything about BCS.
People are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I've mostly enjoyed this show, which is the reason I'm still watching. But I don't think it's one of the best shows of all time like some do. No way am I watching BCS start-to-finish again. I can think of at least 5 other shows in which I have done that.
I like the Rolling Stones, but I don't like every song they've ever recorded. I probably like literature that you wouldn't like, but I'm certainly not going to condescend to tell you what you should or shouldn't appreciate.
It's a good show. I'm interested to see where they take us.
TCTTS said:Duckhook said:TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
Once again the condescending attitude towards anybody who doesn't like everything about BCS.
People are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I've mostly enjoyed this show, which is the reason I'm still watching. But I don't think it's one of the best shows of all time like some do. No way am I watching BCS start-to-finish again. I can think of at least 5 other shows in which I have done that.
I like the Rolling Stones, but I don't like every song they've ever recorded. I probably like literature that you wouldn't like, but I'm certainly not going to condescend to tell you what you should or shouldn't appreciate.
It's a good show. I'm interested to see where they take us.
Haha, what?
My post was in response to someone else's condescending attitude. Did you even read the post I was responding to? A post I replied to by saying nearly the exact same thing you're saying to me, essentially that people are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I'm literally making the argument you're making to me.
Also, I said nothing about the show being the greatest of all time, nor did I hint at anything along those lines. That, and I've said multiple times in recent weeks that I haven't seen Breaking Bad since its original run either, I've asked plenty of questions about things I couldn't remember, etc. So I have no clue what you're talking about there either.
Almost feels like *I'm* being trolled at this point.
Duckhook said:TCTTS said:Duckhook said:TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
Once again the condescending attitude towards anybody who doesn't like everything about BCS.
People are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I've mostly enjoyed this show, which is the reason I'm still watching. But I don't think it's one of the best shows of all time like some do. No way am I watching BCS start-to-finish again. I can think of at least 5 other shows in which I have done that.
I like the Rolling Stones, but I don't like every song they've ever recorded. I probably like literature that you wouldn't like, but I'm certainly not going to condescend to tell you what you should or shouldn't appreciate.
It's a good show. I'm interested to see where they take us.
Haha, what?
My post was in response to someone else's condescending attitude. Did you even read the post I was responding to? A post I replied to by saying nearly the exact same thing you're saying to me, essentially that people are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I'm literally making the argument you're making to me.
Also, I said nothing about the show being the greatest of all time, nor did I hint at anything along those lines. That, and I've said multiple times in recent weeks that I haven't seen Breaking Bad since its original run either, I've asked plenty of questions about things I couldn't remember, etc. So I have no clue what you're talking about there either.
Almost feels like *I'm* being trolled at this point.
This is literally what you posted at 10:50 pm on July 25:
"I mean, this is literally one of the best-written shows in the history of television, one that's *already* given us a phenomenal final season."
Sorry if I misinterpreted that line. It's nice we can agree that it's not one of the greatest shows of all time.
Duckhook said:TCTTS said:Duckhook said:TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
Once again the condescending attitude towards anybody who doesn't like everything about BCS.
People are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I've mostly enjoyed this show, which is the reason I'm still watching. But I don't think it's one of the best shows of all time like some do. No way am I watching BCS start-to-finish again. I can think of at least 5 other shows in which I have done that.
I like the Rolling Stones, but I don't like every song they've ever recorded. I probably like literature that you wouldn't like, but I'm certainly not going to condescend to tell you what you should or shouldn't appreciate.
It's a good show. I'm interested to see where they take us.
Haha, what?
My post was in response to someone else's condescending attitude. Did you even read the post I was responding to? A post I replied to by saying nearly the exact same thing you're saying to me, essentially that people are entertained and engaged by different things in different ways. I'm literally making the argument you're making to me.
Also, I said nothing about the show being the greatest of all time, nor did I hint at anything along those lines. That, and I've said multiple times in recent weeks that I haven't seen Breaking Bad since its original run either, I've asked plenty of questions about things I couldn't remember, etc. So I have no clue what you're talking about there either.
Almost feels like *I'm* being trolled at this point.
This is literally what you posted at 10:50 pm on July 25:
"I mean, this is literally one of the best-written shows in the history of television, one that's *already* given us a phenomenal final season."
Sorry if I misinterpreted that line. It's nice we can agree that it's not one of the greatest shows of all time.
I don't understand this at alI. I didn't get a hardo because hey look there's Walt and Jesse! Unless it's been so long since I watched BB, I don't recall Saul riding shotgun in their winnebago and being asked about Lalo by Jesse and him basically ignoring the question. Which then settles the whole Saul is paranoid that Lalo is still alive part, no?TCTTS said:johnnyblaze36 said:We all have our opinions. I don't see how anybody could think last week held a candle to this week's when we get the Walt/Jesse appearances, first mention of Lalo by Jesse and him not knowing who he is and saying nobody talks about him on the streets, Mike brushing off Walter White to Saul as an amateur nobody and to not waste his time, and the revelation to Gene that Kim asked about him and he seems to know where she is in Florida.Bunk Moreland said:
Though I liked both the last 2 weeks I question the sanity of anyone who enjoyed tonight more than last week.
Not to mention the whole Gene breaking and entering thing setting up the cops to come in the next episode.
Almost feels like I'm being trolled at this point.
You're just naming easter-egg-ish things that happened. That doesn't mean the writing, editing, pacing, construction, etc of the episode was automatically better. Just because we got more call backs and fan-service this episode doesn't mean it was more entertaining.
That said, I loved both episodes. I felt that last week's episode had so much more energy, was paced batter, and gave us that brilliant ending. While this episode felt better crafted overall, featured some of the best cinematography of the series, and used flashbacks incredibly effectively. Basically, both were good, for their own reasons, but just because this one connected directly to Breaking Bad doesn't necessarily make it a better episode of television. Some people look for so much more to entertain and engage them than just, "Hey, look, there's Walt and Jesse!"
My own speculation:oragator said:
The last 2 episodes are "Waterworks" and "Saul Gone"
I had a chilling thought on how this all ends. I always put these guesses in spiller tags because sometimes folks guess right and I hate things spoiled for me, so golden rule and all on the 1 percent chance I'm right.
Jimmy dies, and the only person who shows up to the funeral is Kim. That would be about the saddest most fitting end possible.
oragator said:
The last 2 episodes are "Waterworks" and "Saul Gone"
I had a chilling thought on how this all ends. I always put these guesses in spiller tags because sometimes folks guess right and I hate things spoiled for me, so golden rule and all on the 1 percent chance I'm right.
Jimmy dies, and the only person who shows up to the funeral is Kim. That would be about the saddest most fitting end possible.
This week's #BetterCallSaul finally brought our title character into the #BreakingBad era, in between more Cinnabon Gene capers. My review: https://t.co/q94gqvbTf2 pic.twitter.com/hTI69Nwatx
— Alan Sepinwall (@sepinwall) August 2, 2022
MW03 said:
I'd you think about the Walter White flashback they gave us, it's right after Saul recognized him because of the cough. They showed the cough again last night.
We all know the reason Walter initially started making meth and the reason for the name of that show. Now we get an episode in BCS that's got the same title.
Then you get the phone call with Saul smashing the phone booth.
What could drive Saul to "break bad"? What if Saul is breaking bad for Kim the same way Walter did for his family, and the story is a full circle where Saul will make the same decision and Walter, but for the right reasons instead of going full king pin?
He's definitely doing it for Kim. Given that the gave us Walt and brought up cancer again through the last mark, I'm wondering if Kim's sick and Jimmy's trying to save her.
