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Unless, there is an amazing 24-D chess move in the next 2 episodes, I think it is clear that this show will not reach the level that was BB. Maybe it's because all of the possibly violent plot lines have already been wrapped up. I cared how the Lalo thing ended, but I don't particularly care what happens to Saul. If he gets thrown in jail, I will say "good he deserves it". Yet I would also say the same if he dies, or goes free and gets back together with Kim. So I'm sorta "meh" on what happens.

Yet at this point in BB I was far more heavily invested. I desperately wanted WW to get revenge on Jack and for Jesse to get free (and revenge on Todd). I was nostalgic as hell about the WW and Jesse appearance last night, but it was clearly fan service. It was completely unnecessary, but it proved to me the superiority of BB.

BB was lightning in a bottle that may never be captured again.
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If Mike is head of Gus's security, it seems a bit odd that he also does odd jobs for Saul doesn't it?
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GreasenUSA said:

Who is the actor who played the mark who has cancer? He is familiar.
The comic book store owner on Big Bang Theory
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Gigem314 said:

I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
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aTmAg said:

Unless, there is an amazing 24-D chess move in the next 2 episodes, I think it is clear that this show will not reach the level that was BB. Maybe it's because all of the possibly violent plot lines have already been wrapped up. I cared how the Lalo thing ended, but I don't particularly care what happens to Saul. If he gets thrown in jail, I will say "good he deserves it". Yet I would also say the same if he dies, or goes free and gets back together with Kim. So I'm sorta "meh" on what happens.

Yet at this point in BB I was far more heavily invested. I desperately wanted WW to get revenge on Jack and for Jesse to get free (and revenge on Todd). I was nostalgic as hell about the WW and Jesse appearance last night, but it was clearly fan service. It was completely unnecessary, but it proved to me the superiority of BB.

BB was lightning in a bottle that may never be captured again.
It definitely approached the tension of BB when Howard was shot, and it was a wild ride for a couple of episodes while that played out. It's definitely not the same the last two episodes, but I need to see how the story concludes before passing final judgement.
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I don't think Gene/Saul cares about the money he's making from these jobs at all. I think he's doing it for the thrill and because it's unfortunately part of who he is. Once the phone call to Kim went poorly, he "broke bad" and started up his schemes in a big way once again. He seems to have nothing to live for at this point, shown by him breaking into the cancer guy's house when that job clearly shouldn't be done.
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So….what has it been, like 10 years since Kim left Saul? 2003 to 2013?
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JD Shellnut said:

So….what has it been, like 10 years since Kim left Saul? 2003 to 2013?
6. It was 2004 when Howard died and she left and it's 2010 when Gene is in Omaha.
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JD Shellnut said:

So….what has it been, like 10 years since Kim left Saul? 2003 to 2013?



I believe we are still in the year 2010 maybe 2011 at the latest
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TexAgs91 said:

If Mike is head of Gus's security, it seems a bit odd that he also does odd jobs for Saul doesn't it?
Again, once the Salamancas were handled there wasn't a lot for Mike to do on a daily basis and he had a relationship with Jimmy before he ever met Gus. He wanted to leave as much money as possible for Kaylee.
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torrid said:

aTmAg said:

Unless, there is an amazing 24-D chess move in the next 2 episodes, I think it is clear that this show will not reach the level that was BB. Maybe it's because all of the possibly violent plot lines have already been wrapped up. I cared how the Lalo thing ended, but I don't particularly care what happens to Saul. If he gets thrown in jail, I will say "good he deserves it". Yet I would also say the same if he dies, or goes free and gets back together with Kim. So I'm sorta "meh" on what happens.

Yet at this point in BB I was far more heavily invested. I desperately wanted WW to get revenge on Jack and for Jesse to get free (and revenge on Todd). I was nostalgic as hell about the WW and Jesse appearance last night, but it was clearly fan service. It was completely unnecessary, but it proved to me the superiority of BB.

BB was lightning in a bottle that may never be captured again.
It definitely approached the tension of BB when Howard was shot, and it was a wild ride for a couple of episodes while that played out. It's definitely not the same the last two episodes, but I need to see how the story concludes before passing final judgement.

Think of "El Camino" as the coda to Breaking Bad. Entertaining and interesting and cathartic but definitely on the downhill slope of tension.

These last 4 episodes are a TV version of that, in my opinion.
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Quinn said:

JD Shellnut said:

So….what has it been, like 10 years since Kim left Saul? 2003 to 2013?
6. It was 2004 when Howard died and she left and it's 2010 when Gene is in Omaha.
Kim leaves Jimmy middle of 2004, Jimmy calls Francesca Nov 12th, 2010, Francesca inform Jimmy that at some point between March 2010 (when Jimmy went into hiding) and the phone call on Nov 12th that Kim called asking if he was alive. No idea if Jimmy and Kim EVER had contact from 2004 to 2010, the call to Francesca might have been first time Kim EVER reached out. Somehow Jimmy knew how to find her, roughly (I think he somewhat randomly guessed the sprinkler business "it's on a road named after a fish" since he's smart and it's Florida, or perhaps just couldn't quite remember what he had been told) and I don't know how he would know that if there had never been contact. Perhaps he had Mike track her down at some point in BB timeline. How much time do we think passed in last night's episode, how long did scam on what appeared to be a dozen victims run after Nov 12th? I would guess 2-4 months?

If they NEVER had contact 2004 to 2010 and Kim only calls asking about him after the **** went down, it's possible she was doing so on behalf of the Feds and it's possible she told Jimmy that fact when he called her. But so many possibilities for the phone booth conversation, writers keeping us guessing for sure. Kim's dead, remarried, had a kid -maybe Jimmy's kid, perhaps in jail herself, just unwilling to talk to Jimmy, telling him she's turning him in for his own good, on and on for the possibilities. Ever since Jimmy burned Kim in the Mesa Verde meeting, she got angry, and instead of breaking up she offered marriage, I've felt perhaps she had some revenge angle - but that would be too ****ty.

Stubbornness on cancer victim going to take him down? Jeffie's mom too sharp and concerned about Jeffie, she's his demise? Something out of left field, because the writing on the show is good?

I think the writers definitely want us to feel Jimmy is self destructive and deserving of a bad fate, after watching last night's episode anyway. But they also invested 5 seasons into Jimmy backstory and building some sympathy for who he is and why. But as much as we might like the character we saw in BCS over those first 5 seasons, we also now have seen what he did in BB and how he was pivotal in creating Heisenberg. Chuck was right (monkey with a machine gun), Howard was right (you two are soulless, you have something missing, you do it for fun), and Kim was right (we hurt people) - while a bad end to Jimmy might seem tragic and disappointing to a fan of the show I think any other type of ending might seem inauthentic.
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Tobias Funke said:

torrid said:

aTmAg said:

Unless, there is an amazing 24-D chess move in the next 2 episodes, I think it is clear that this show will not reach the level that was BB. Maybe it's because all of the possibly violent plot lines have already been wrapped up. I cared how the Lalo thing ended, but I don't particularly care what happens to Saul. If he gets thrown in jail, I will say "good he deserves it". Yet I would also say the same if he dies, or goes free and gets back together with Kim. So I'm sorta "meh" on what happens.

Yet at this point in BB I was far more heavily invested. I desperately wanted WW to get revenge on Jack and for Jesse to get free (and revenge on Todd). I was nostalgic as hell about the WW and Jesse appearance last night, but it was clearly fan service. It was completely unnecessary, but it proved to me the superiority of BB.

BB was lightning in a bottle that may never be captured again.
It definitely approached the tension of BB when Howard was shot, and it was a wild ride for a couple of episodes while that played out. It's definitely not the same the last two episodes, but I need to see how the story concludes before passing final judgement.

Think of "El Camino" as the coda to Breaking Bad. Entertaining and interesting and cathartic but definitely on the downhill slope of tension.

These last 4 episodes are a TV version of that, in my opinion.
Yup, I'll say it again - it's 4 episodes of Saul Camino.
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TCTTS said:

MW03 said:

I'd you think about the Walter White flashback they gave us, it's right after Saul recognized him because of the cough. They showed the cough again last night.

We all know the reason Walter initially started making meth and the reason for the name of that show. Now we get an episode in BCS that's got the same title.

Then you get the phone call with Saul smashing the phone booth.

What could drive Saul to "break bad"? What if Saul is breaking bad for Kim the same way Walter did for his family, and the story is a full circle where Saul will make the same decision and Walter, but for the right reasons instead of going full king pin?

He's definitely doing it for Kim. Given that the gave us Walt and brought up cancer again through the last mark, I'm wondering if Kim's sick and Jimmy's trying to save her.


This is exactly what we've been speculating for a page or so now.

Yeah, but now I have said it.

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I know we're done with this universe in 2 weeks, but I personally wouldn't mind another season of Saul behind bars giving unofficial legal counsel to all the other inmates and hatching ridiculous schemes to reduce their sentences or break them out.
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After the speculation on here about Saul's house, I was kinda hoping that, as Saul was grilling Francesca, we would get "...... and the house?"

What red herrings did they throw at us? Will Carol Burnett stick her snout into what is happening in the garage? Will the crook with a conscience go to the police, consequences to himself be damned?

While it was certainly fun to see Walt & Jesse, I don't think it's all fan service. Don't they have to show us some backstory to show how we went from Saul to Gene? Or should they have just assumed that everybody already knows the story, so why waste time there? I liked what they did with it.

I don't think this ends well for Saul/Gene, and I'm probably going to be okay with that.
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If you don't like the commercials and terrible video quality, you can try the free 7-day trial of AMC+. I signed up a couple of weeks ago, immediately cancelled the subscription, but still continue to have access to it for some reason (And I double-checked to make sure that I'm not being charged). Curious to see how long this lasts.

The app is really poorly designed, but the video quality is much better than what you get on AMC via YTTV.
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J.P. 03 said:

I know we're done with this universe in 2 weeks, but I personally wouldn't mind another season of Saul behind bars giving unofficial legal counsel to all the other inmates and hatching ridiculous schemes to reduce their sentences or break them out.
I had the same thought - would allow for both his "just due" as far as legal punishment but also show Jimmy is in his element there and would probably lead the best prison life possible, giving us fans the thought "he'll be OK".
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So if Francesca claims her phone is still bugged, and Kim called Francesca and mentioned Jimmy's name, do you think Kim's phone is now bugged?
Maybe that's why he called her at work?
Was he yelling into the phone to throw off the FBI listening in?
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Seven Costanza said:

If you don't like the commercials and terrible video quality, you can try the free 7-day trial of AMC+. I signed up a couple of weeks ago, immediately cancelled the subscription, but still continue to have access to it for some reason (And I double-checked to make sure that I'm not being charged). Curious to see how long this lasts.

The app is really poorly designed, but the video quality is much better than what you get on AMC via YTTV.


I've had access like that for months but you can't log in elsewhere.
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Seven Costanza said:

If you don't like the commercials and terrible video quality, you can try the free 7-day trial of AMC+. I signed up a couple of weeks ago, immediately cancelled the subscription, but still continue to have access to it for some reason (And I double-checked to make sure that I'm not being charged). Curious to see how long this lasts.

The app is really poorly designed, but the video quality is much better than what you get on AMC via YTTV.
i signed up for AMC+ through my amazon prime video account. its worked great there with no issues as they just use Amazon's video player. For billing it just shows up as an Amazon charge. The only downside is you have to go the desktop version of the amazon website to cancel your subscription.
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Am I the only one who thought the first guy to get scammed last night was the actor who played Paul Kinsey on Mad Men?
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Ervin Burrell said:

Am I the only one who thought the first guy to get scammed last night was the actor who played Paul Kinsey on Mad Men?
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Seven Costanza said:

I usually just start it 30 minutes late, fast forward through the commercials, and finish on time.
And this. I cannot believe, in this day and age, there are people who purposely watch programming knowing they'll have to sit through commercials. Complete and utter beating, just do something else for a half hour or more and then start it.
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My off the walls take is this cancer guy Gene is scamming died from the cancer drugs + alcohol + barbiturates. A couple of hints from the episode when gene asks "should you be drinking alcohol?" And then when the cab driver mentions he didn't drink the whole water bottle so he may not be knocked out for long. I'm thinking that could be a misdirect so that we expect to find him possibly awake when Gene breaks in but actually he's dead because of cardiac arrest or something related to the combination of the drugs + alcohol.

If he's dead there would be an investigation and somehow it would lead back to Gene and the crooks. It would also tie into the theme of innocent people suffering dire consequences due to Saul's schemes to help Kim. That is, assuming the reason he "broke bad" in this episode was to help Kim in some way much like the scam against Howard was to get a big payoff to help launch her pro bono practice.

Far fetched but just a thought.
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One question I have that I didn't pick up on.

Who are they selling these identifies to? Did they even say?

My first thought was they're selling them to the vacuum guy but I don't think they ever got into that.
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J.P. 03 said:

I know we're done with this universe in 2 weeks, but I personally wouldn't mind another season of Saul behind bars giving unofficial legal counsel to all the other inmates and hatching ridiculous schemes to reduce their sentences or break them out.


We share a brain. This is what I came up with selfishly for more fun characters. He can "buy" his protection, he can unofficially earn money, and he gets to work in law again without license. Might even run prison Bingo nite.

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They didnt say. There is an entire market out there of people willing to pay for people's identities and banking information. When my wife had her purse and ID stolen, someone was caught on tape using her ID withdrawing cash from our account months later. The person making with the withdraw was a female with the same haircolor (white ginger) so it leads me to believe she bought the ID and account info from the person who stole it (Hispanic male). The bank refunded us the money stolen as they mishandled our account security after we already told them we had an identity theft issue.

At first I thought Gene & Co were going to drain the accounts themselves, but that could probably lead to too much heat and I don't think Jimmy is an expert at digital banking theft despite being Walter White's laundering guy.
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Quad Dog said:

So if Francesca claims her phone is still bugged, and Kim called Francesca and mentioned Jimmy's name, do you think Kim's phone is now bugged?
Maybe that's why he called her at work?
Was he yelling into the phone to throw off the FBI listening in?
Or they may have already been bugging Kim's phone anyways, and he heard the double click when she picked up the phone? As Francesca had just mentioned she was still dealing with.
So he did the whole yelling stuff pretending to be an angry customer or something as a cover?
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Ag_07 said:

One question I have that I didn't pick up on.

Who are they selling these identifies to? Did they even say?

My first thought was they're selling them to the vacuum guy but I don't think they ever got into that.

They showed them giving the info to some unknown dude, who gave them straps of cash.
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TriumphForks said:

My off the walls take is this cancer guy Gene is scamming died from the cancer drugs + alcohol + barbiturates. A couple of hints from the episode when gene asks "should you be drinking alcohol?" And then when the cab driver mentions he didn't drink the whole water bottle so he may not be knocked out for long. I'm thinking that could be a misdirect so that we expect to find him possibly awake when Gene breaks in but actually he's dead because of cardiac arrest or something related to the combination of the drugs + alcohol.

If he's dead there would be an investigation and somehow it would lead back to Gene and the crooks. It would also tie into the theme of innocent people suffering dire consequences due to Saul's schemes to help Kim. That is, assuming the reason he "broke bad" in this episode was to help Kim in some way much like the scam against Howard was to get a big payoff to help launch her pro bono practice.

Far fetched but just a thought.
My initial thought is he would die from the barbituates as well, but it seems to not be the case.
I think its also likely that they just want our minds to go that way, and it was really just a way to show that Gene had fully lost his morality again and didn't care that the mark had cancer.

Or even it was just a way to more naturally have a flashback tie in to Walt and his cancer.
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PatAg said:

Quad Dog said:

So if Francesca claims her phone is still bugged, and Kim called Francesca and mentioned Jimmy's name, do you think Kim's phone is now bugged?
Maybe that's why he called her at work?
Was he yelling into the phone to throw off the FBI listening in?
Or they may have already been bugging Kim's phone anyways, and he heard the double click when she picked up the phone? As Francesca had just mentioned she was still dealing with.
So he did the whole yelling stuff pretending to be an angry customer or something as a cover?
if he was pretending to be angry I don't think he would have kicked the glass out of the phone booth after the call was done.
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TriumphForks said:

PatAg said:

Quad Dog said:

So if Francesca claims her phone is still bugged, and Kim called Francesca and mentioned Jimmy's name, do you think Kim's phone is now bugged?
Maybe that's why he called her at work?
Was he yelling into the phone to throw off the FBI listening in?
Or they may have already been bugging Kim's phone anyways, and he heard the double click when she picked up the phone? As Francesca had just mentioned she was still dealing with.
So he did the whole yelling stuff pretending to be an angry customer or something as a cover?
if he was pretending to be angry I don't think he would have kicked the glass out of the phone booth after the call was done.


He could pretend to be angry about a sprinkler repair for the benefit of those tapping line then be genuinely angry at the phone tapping itself once he hung up
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I could use a spin-off off the security guard scarfing down mall junk food in the most efficient and robotically etiquettacious ways.
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I saw somewhere online that the name of the first guy they scammed (Alfred Hawthorne Hill) is the real name of Benny Hill.
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