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TexAgs91 said:

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I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
Good point, it's very intentional. He's planned this out. So maybe not a "quick score" literally, but he made a quick pivot to put plans in place and go back to the cab guy after saying he was done.
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Ervin Burrell said:

Seven Costanza said:

I usually just start it 30 minutes late, fast forward through the commercials, and finish on time.
And this. I cannot believe, in this day and age, there are people who purposely watch programming knowing they'll have to sit through commercials. Complete and utter beating, just do something else for a half hour or more and then start it.
You know what's funny, is I hadn't watched commercials in years!

Then i started watching on Paramount, Peacock, Hulu, where you can't fast forward.

So now I even forget I can fast forward through commercials.

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Gigem314 said:

TexAgs91 said:

Gigem314 said:

I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
Good point, it's very intentional. He's planned this out. So maybe not a "quick score" literally, but he made a quick pivot to put plans in place and go back to the cab guy after saying he was done.
Stealing that dudes identity and living as him?
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Ken Scarborough said:

Gigem314 said:

TexAgs91 said:

Gigem314 said:

I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
Good point, it's very intentional. He's planned this out. So maybe not a "quick score" literally, but he made a quick pivot to put plans in place and go back to the cab guy after saying he was done.
Stealing that dudes identity and living as him?
That's what I was thinking. Don't know if that was the plan all along, or if he just had the idea when he realized the guy had cancer and it didn't look good.
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Re-watching the Better Call Saul episode of Breaking Bad and it is reminding me how bad we need a Badger & Skinny Pete spinoff.
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Once Aaron Paul is finished with Westworld, might as well go ahead and do a spin-off with Jesse in Alaska. I'm sure they could come up with something worth watching.
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Shoutout to Reddit for this theory that I like: Marion will stumble upon a Youtube video of Saul - either his American Crime doc or perhaps an old Better Call Saul advertisement.
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Ervin Burrell said:

Shoutout to Reddit for this theory that I like: Marion will stumble upon a Youtube video of Saul - either his American Crime doc or perhaps an old Better Call Saul advertisement.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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TC, have you heard any rumors in the sewers of Hollywood about another BB universe spinoff in the works?
It can't end with BCS.
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I think they need to end it. They will dilute BB into Walking Dead territory.

In 10 years they will have Terry Crews making meth.
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Good interview with one of the producers

Better Call Saul producer breaks down 'Breaking Bad' episode, Kim mystery
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When they don't fully resolve a character, they do it in a sequel. Jesse wasn't fully resolved - El Camino. Saul wasn't fully resolved - Gene timeline in Better Call Saul. If they don't show Kim again, which would seem impossible, adds weight to the idea they could do a Kim spinoff in Breaking Bad or later timeline. I think the writers, or someone involved with Better Call Saul, even mentioned that as a possibility.
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Know Your Enemy said:

Good interview with one of the producers

Better Call Saul producer breaks down 'Breaking Bad' episode, Kim mystery
Nothing super specific, but spoilery about what type of scenes and who is involved in the last two episodes.
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Interesting thought about cancer guy maybe dying. Has Gene been running the con at the same bar this whole time, or switching locations? Honestly can't remember.

If the dude died and the cops start digging into where he was before he got home, things are going to start unraveling quickly when the lightbulb goes off for the bartender.
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Why did Jimmy give a **** about breaking into that one particular guy's house?

They were scamming all kind of people, why worry about that one dude with cancer?

Who cares? It's the middle of the night, why not just say **** it and go home?

He seemed like he was acting in desperation.

Thats the outstanding question in my mind, a day later.
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aTmAg said:

I think they need to end it. They will dilute BB into Walking Dead territory.

In 10 years they will have Terry Crews making meth.


I disagree. This isn't the ridiculous pimping like Star Wars or Marvel or TWD have turned into. Wait a year or two after BCS ends and start another spinoff.
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Tobias Funke said:

Interesting thought about cancer guy maybe dying. Has Gene been running the con at the same bar this whole time, or switching locations? Honestly can't remember.

If the dude died and the cops start digging into where he was before he got home, things are going to start unraveling quickly when the lightbulb goes off for the bartender.


Maybe. But he has been paying cash and giving a fake name, it would be hard to track Saul down.
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I assume Saul plans on stealing his identity after he dies of natural (cancer) causes. So the cops wouldn't be involved too much.
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Ken Scarborough said:

Gigem314 said:

TexAgs91 said:

Gigem314 said:

I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
Good point, it's very intentional. He's planned this out. So maybe not a "quick score" literally, but he made a quick pivot to put plans in place and go back to the cab guy after saying he was done.
Stealing that dudes identity and living as him?
How would that help? That would render vacuum guy's [very expensive] services moot.
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Ghost of Bizbee said:

TC, have you heard any rumors in the sewers of Hollywood about another BB universe spinoff in the works?
It can't end with BCS.


I heard on a podcast a few months ago, offhandedly, that apparently Gould/Gilligan haven't completely shut the door on this being the end of the BB/BCS universe. I don't think there are any plans whatsoever as of now, and I certainly haven't heard anything myself, but it sounds like if they do ever have an idea, they're not opposed to potentially returning to/continuing to work in this world.
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So, Vince Gilligan knows everyone watching has a soft-spot for Saul (much like making a hero of Walter White), but Vince doesn't want Saul to have a happy ending, but he knows that will piss off lots of fans if he kills him.
So how do you make all the fans hate Saul so Vince can kill him off and have fans cheer, you ask?

Well, Saul indirectly through his actions (negligence) gets Carol Burnett killed!
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TCTTS said:

Ghost of Bizbee said:

TC, have you heard any rumors in the sewers of Hollywood about another BB universe spinoff in the works?
It can't end with BCS.


I heard on a podcast a few months ago, offhandedly, that apparently Gould/Gilligan haven't completely shut the door on this being the end of the BB/BCS universe. I don't think there are any plans whatsoever as of now, and I certainly haven't heard anything myself, but it sounds like if they do ever have an idea, they're not opposed to potentially returning to/continuing to work in this world.

Speaking of tales to tell, Gus' Chilean story is still a total mystery.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Ken Scarborough said:

Gigem314 said:

TexAgs91 said:

Gigem314 said:

I like TCTTS's theory that Gene is trying to help Kim.

I don't think she told him off on the phone. She loved him when they parted. She cared enough to ask Francesca about him.

Something is all of a sudden driving Gene to go back to the cab guy and take all that time to scout out single, wealthy, men that he could pull the bar routine with for a quick score.

I don't know if it ends well for Gene (the grave transition to him sleeping isn't a good sign), but I think his last hope is Kim. And maybe that hope finally breaks in the next episode.
I agree with this except that I don't think he's just trying to make a quick score, otherwise he wouldn't be so intent on finishing the job with the cancer guy. That's just one guy out of many. He's trying to find the right kind of person for whatever his plans are.
Good point, it's very intentional. He's planned this out. So maybe not a "quick score" literally, but he made a quick pivot to put plans in place and go back to the cab guy after saying he was done.
Stealing that dudes identity and living as him?
How would that help? That would render vacuum guy's [very expensive] services moot.
Vacuum guy's services are already moot, as he was recognized. Unless he is willing to kill those guys, then he needs to be vacuumed again. But he may not have the money this time (or maybe vacuum guy only does it once per person). So he needs to vacuum himself.
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Did I miss what happened to the diamonds (or for that matter where the diamonds came from in the first place)? Seems like Saul has more money in those than he can make taking down marks.
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Was wondering this as well.
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MW03 said:

Did I miss what happened to the diamonds (or for that matter where the diamonds came from in the first place)? Seems like Saul has more money in those than he can make taking down marks.
Read an interview with Thomas Schnauz who wrote this episode and according to him Gene doesn't need any money. That is not why he is pulling the scams now. It has to do with whatever he heard on that phone call which will come out in the last 2 episodes.
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When Mike was reporting to Saul, he mentions a trustworthy second story man. Saul says he has plenty. Later Mike again mentions the second story man and says he never gave his crew up and only got caught because of the dumb luck of the police driving by at the right moment.

Was this a reference to something that happened later on BB or is it foreshadowing for BCS or nothing?

Also, is it the cab driver who is being yelled at "You're him!" In those preview ads?
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ag88man said:

When Mike was reporting to Saul, he mentions a trustworthy second story man. Saul says he has plenty. Later Mike again mentions the second story man and says he never gave his crew up and only got caught because of the dumb luck of the police driving by at the right moment.

Was this a reference to something that happened later on BB or is it foreshadowing for BCS or nothing?

Also, is it the cab driver who is being yelled at "You're him!" In those preview ads?
Good question, and what is a "second story man"?
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Teddy Perkins said:


Good question, and what is a "second story man"?
I ask myself this question multiple times per season:

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MW03 said:

TCTTS said:

Ghost of Bizbee said:

TC, have you heard any rumors in the sewers of Hollywood about another BB universe spinoff in the works?
It can't end with BCS.


I heard on a podcast a few months ago, offhandedly, that apparently Gould/Gilligan haven't completely shut the door on this being the end of the BB/BCS universe. I don't think there are any plans whatsoever as of now, and I certainly haven't heard anything myself, but it sounds like if they do ever have an idea, they're not opposed to potentially returning to/continuing to work in this world.

Speaking of tales to tell, Gus' Chilean story is still a total mystery.
Would require a much younger (different) actor, and one who can grasp Spanish better...but I'd be there for it.
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Teddy Perkins said:

ag88man said:

When Mike was reporting to Saul, he mentions a trustworthy second story man. Saul says he has plenty. Later Mike again mentions the second story man and says he never gave his crew up and only got caught because of the dumb luck of the police driving by at the right moment.

Was this a reference to something that happened later on BB or is it foreshadowing for BCS or nothing?

Also, is it the cab driver who is being yelled at "You're him!" In those preview ads?
Good question, and what is a "second story man"?
There's this new thing called Google that can help in times of confusion like these.

It literally means a burglar who enters through a second (or higher) story window.
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TriumphForks said:

My off the walls take is this cancer guy Gene is scamming died from the cancer drugs + alcohol + barbiturates. A couple of hints from the episode when gene asks "should you be drinking alcohol?" And then when the cab driver mentions he didn't drink the whole water bottle so he may not be knocked out for long. I'm thinking that could be a misdirect so that we expect to find him possibly awake when Gene breaks in but actually he's dead because of cardiac arrest or something related to the combination of the drugs + alcohol.

If he's dead there would be an investigation and somehow it would lead back to Gene and the crooks. It would also tie into the theme of innocent people suffering dire consequences due to Saul's schemes to help Kim. That is, assuming the reason he "broke bad" in this episode was to help Kim in some way much like the scam against Howard was to get a big payoff to help launch her pro bono practice.

Far fetched but just a thought.
Now that he broke into the house, Gene is screwed no matter what. If the mark is dead, there's evidence of a break-in that will lead back to Gene. If the mark is alive, Gene has to explain why he broke into his house. And possibly the worst case scenario for Gene, the mark is only mostly dead and Gene revives him, becoming a hero in the media.
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G Martin 87 said:

TriumphForks said:

My off the walls take is this cancer guy Gene is scamming died from the cancer drugs + alcohol + barbiturates. A couple of hints from the episode when gene asks "should you be drinking alcohol?" And then when the cab driver mentions he didn't drink the whole water bottle so he may not be knocked out for long. I'm thinking that could be a misdirect so that we expect to find him possibly awake when Gene breaks in but actually he's dead because of cardiac arrest or something related to the combination of the drugs + alcohol.

If he's dead there would be an investigation and somehow it would lead back to Gene and the crooks. It would also tie into the theme of innocent people suffering dire consequences due to Saul's schemes to help Kim. That is, assuming the reason he "broke bad" in this episode was to help Kim in some way much like the scam against Howard was to get a big payoff to help launch her pro bono practice.

Far fetched but just a thought.
Now that he broke into the house, Gene is screwed no matter what. If the mark is dead, there's evidence of a break-in that will lead back to Gene. If the mark is alive, Gene has to explain why he broke into his house. And possibly the worst case scenario for Gene, the mark is only mostly dead and Gene revives him, becoming a hero in the media.
There's nothing definitive at this point that would lead back to Gene just because he broke a damn window.
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