*** THE WHITE LOTUS *** (Season 2)

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If I know this show…The murder/victim will not be anyone that seems obvious right now
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Just started. Really enjoyed episode 1, maybe even more than episode 1 of S1.

I had to look up the actress who plays Isabella, the front desk girl, because she is so damn gorgeous.

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Ogre09 said:

Quinn said:

aTmLoKi said:

So….was the picture Tanya found in the bedroom one that verified who the cowboy was and how it related to everything?


Yes, that was her husband Greg in the picture. Presumably they're getting her to cheat so that it breaks the prenup for him.


It was Greg and the gay "uncle." I'm guessing Greg will give the gay uncle some money for getting him a divorce payout. I think originally the guy hanging around with Portia was supposed to seduce Tanya. But then with Portia around, his role changed to distracting her and they brought in the mafia/drug dealer dude.


Aubrey and Cameron definitely hooked up, at least a little. She has wanted to since he changed in front of her, and her thinking her husband slept with the hookers gives her an excuse.


The preview showed them fighting in the water, but we don't know who kills who. Or is that another misdirection and neither of them die? I don't want to wait another week...

Exactly my thoughts. And I think that final shot, as the camera tracked away from the bed, into the closet the Italian mafia guy came from, is potentially the point of the view of one of at least a couple cameras set up to capture the entire thing.

As for the bodies, I still have no idea. All I know is that I think Cameron and/or Ethan are too obvious.
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As for Lucia, I still can't tell if she's running a con or not. My gut says there aren't going to be two completely separate cons in the same show - that we're only supposed to *think* Lucia is running one too - and that her story is actually the one that ends with a happy ending (much like the kid staying in Hawaii last season, except she makes it to LA).
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My only small quibble this season has to do with the hotel manager's arc. I just don't get what's going on there, especially after last season's hotel manager was gay and angry too, and then also finally broke down and hooked up with someone on the staff. I mean, are there actual gay people who fall for people who show no signs of being gay, but pin all their hopes on that person being gay, ask them out, and then get massively depressed when they find out they're straight? Do gay people not get *some* kind of confirmation first? I know Valentina has never acted on her desires before (something else that's weird - it's 2022, not 1952), and I know Mike White is gay himself, so he obviously knows best, but that whole thing seems kind of pointless and weird so far. Hopefully the finale at least gives it some relevance.
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TCTTS said:

Ogre09 said:

Quinn said:

aTmLoKi said:

So….was the picture Tanya found in the bedroom one that verified who the cowboy was and how it related to everything?


Yes, that was her husband Greg in the picture. Presumably they're getting her to cheat so that it breaks the prenup for him.


It was Greg and the gay "uncle." I'm guessing Greg will give the gay uncle some money for getting him a divorce payout. I think originally the guy hanging around with Portia was supposed to seduce Tanya. But then with Portia around, his role changed to distracting her and they brought in the mafia/drug dealer dude.


Aubrey and Cameron definitely hooked up, at least a little. She has wanted to since he changed in front of her, and her thinking her husband slept with the hookers gives her an excuse.


The preview showed them fighting in the water, but we don't know who kills who. Or is that another misdirection and neither of them die? I don't want to wait another week...

Exactly my thoughts. And I think that final shot, as the camera tracked away from the bed, into the closet the Italian mafia guy came from, is potentially the point of the view of one of at least a couple cameras set up to capture the entire thing.

As for the bodies, I still have no idea. All I know is that I think Cameron and/or Ethan are too obvious.


While running a con this big, people need to be more careful. Don't have incriminating framed photos sitting around and don't bang your "nephew" with the door open!
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TCTTS said:

As for Lucia, I still can't tell if she's running a con or not. My gut says there aren't going to be two completely separate cons in the same show - that we're only supposed to *think* Lucia is running one too - and that her story is actually the one that ends with a happy ending (much like the kid staying in Hawaii last season, except she makes it to LA).


Lucia is definitely trying to con Albie
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Cameron alluded to the same restating every time issue with the great "why do they keep giving us menus?" line


I don't think he & Plaza hooked up. But Ethan will drive himself nuts thinking it. Perhaps to kill someone? By accident?

The Reunion scene at the Sicilian Se Grasso house was fantastic
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Ogre09 said:

TCTTS said:

As for Lucia, I still can't tell if she's running a con or not. My gut says there aren't going to be two completely separate cons in the same show - that we're only supposed to *think* Lucia is running one too - and that her story is actually the one that ends with a happy ending (much like the kid staying in Hawaii last season, except she makes it to LA).


Lucia is definitely trying to con Albie

You're probably right. My only other hesitation, besides the contrivance of there being two completely separate cons run on multiple guest, is that if Lucia's running a con, the guy she has playing the "pimp" is a really committed actor. Like, in that world, not as a cast member of the show. If it's all a ruse, he's really good at playing the part, appearing to be angry with her, coming off as intimidating, etc. I just know that if I was trying to pull off something similar, I don't have a single friend who could act that well, much less be where/do exactly what I tell them, for days on end.
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Grandpa said the Sicilians have very high unemployment. Not surprising he wouldn't have anywhere better to be if she's going to pay him.

Did Cam and Harper actually fool around? Or does she want him to think they did? Or is it all just in his head? She has definitely been flirting back with him some.
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Every time the pimp gets angry with Lucia, I find myself expecting her to come back with signs of physical abuse...especially this last time. The fact that never happens makes me lean towards it being a con on Albie.
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Ogre09 said:

Grandpa said the Sicilians have very high unemployment. Not surprising he wouldn't have anywhere better to be if she's going to pay him.

Did Cam and Harper actually fool around? Or does she want him to think they did? Or is it all just in his head? She has definitely been flirting back with him some.


I don't think they did either. I think she's actually disgusted by Cameron, even more so now knowing he pays for hookers. But putting Ethan through the torture that he put her through - the not knowing and wondering - is too great for her to pass up and teach him what it feels like. Ethan acting like Mr. Brightside is gonna lead to his downfall.
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This is where I'm at as well, but I could be convinced otherwise. I don't think Harper actually did anything with Cam but she's liking Ethan essentially going through what she went through the past couple of days. So she's not completely shooting it down. And if they truly did hook up, cam is a great actor. Bc when he asks Ethan "are you losing it?" He looks completely surprised and befuddled by the questioning.

But the door was latched, so it could have went down like Ethan was imagining it. But I think that was just all in his head and he's driving himself insane. Who knows, maybe Harper thought Ethan wood come to the room and so she latched the door to make him suspicious.

I hope we get an answer next week one way or the other.
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I think the gun Tanya found is going to be important. It seemed too intentional to be unimportant.
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Ogre09 said:

I think the gun Tanya found is going to be important. It seemed too intentional to be unimportant.
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I'm just happy I finally got something right. Broken clock is right two times a day guess.
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I definitely think the preview was misdirection. I'm thinking Bert dies or commits suicide because he seemed very depressed after the failed De Grasso "reunion." I also think Lucia might be a candidate for death, maybe Cam kills her for harassing him about payment or Dominic kills her for scamming Albie.

At the beginning they said "multiple guests," so I feel like it's at least three. I'm not sure who #3 could be, although when Ethan was upset and went out swimming, I totally expected him to go out too far, get exhausted, and then drown.

As for Tanya, I wonder what the prenup says about her being responsible for infidelity. Or maybe they are just blackmailing her. Even if the prenup doesn't favor her in cases of her own infidelity, I would think with her money she could afford much better lawyers than Greg can. Jack taking Portia out was definitely a plan to keep her away from Tanya. I was pissed that she didn't just take the keys and drive back to the palazzo when Jack passed out.
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The Stifflers Mom sex scene was disturbing.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again... it's always the hookers who end up dead
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Sex Panther said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again... it's always the hookers who end up dead
I don't think Mia is a true hooker and I can't see anyone wanting to kill her, unless she is with Lucia in the wrong place at the wrong time. I guess the piano player could come back and kill her for drugging him and taking his job...but that seems like a stretch.
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They were talking about being punished for what they were doing .

Albie kills Lucia when he finds out she is scamming him?
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If you want the unexpected, not that this will happen but…

we haven't seen the piano man since his medical incident. Maybe he kills the two girls for poisoning him and stealing his job.
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Ogre09 said:

They were talking about being punished for what they were doing .

Albie kills Lucia when he finds out she is scamming him?
Yeah I keep going back to that line as well - something along the lines of "it looks like we won't be punished after all"

I read this a couple of different ways:

(1) They won't be punished by the pimp because she will get all the money she needs from Albie and the pimp won't be mad at her

(2) They won't be punished by Dom, because he doesn't want to make his son upset
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I cant believe there's only 1 episode left.

I dont know who dies but my guess is very few of the guesses on this thread end up correct.

I was hoping Ethan would end up banging Cams wife to really start some drama
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I thought last night was the finale since it was episode 6. About 30 min in I was like, this is gonna be a really rushed finish!

So how many do we get? 8?
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1 more. hope its 90 minutes at least!
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I said it earlier, but I don't think this show is a murder mystery based on season 1. I will be some random event or accident. Last season built everything up to make us expect some unhappy person finally snapped and murdered someone. What really happened was a drug fueled upper decking caused someone to get stabbed that would not have otherwise. This season is still a bunch of unhappy people acting like they are ready to snap.

My guess for one of the deaths is that the hoors bang the old guy so hard that he has a heart attack and dies.
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At least I was right about the gay-for-pay situation with Jack.
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At the attempted family reunion, what did the mom mean when she told her daughters that the men were just after the "sweet money"?
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Ryan the Temp said:

At least I was right about the gay-for-pay situation with Jack.
you do know your gay situations very well. Been saying that for years
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gigemJTH12 said:

Ryan the Temp said:

At least I was right about the gay-for-pay situation with Jack.
you do know your gay situations very well. Been saying that for years
As I understand, "nephew" is a common term older gay men use for hired boys.
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Show is really slipping.

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There are just too many storylines to clear up in one episode.
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How so? It seems fairly easy to wrap everything up in 70 minutes or however long the finale will be.
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I guess so. I mean they HAVE to.
 
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