I'm holding out for deep fake de-aged King Tut, Egghead or Louie the Lilac.

This is finally starting to make some sense. Basically, it sounds like Clayface was the original villain for The Batman: Part II, but I'm guessing Reeves found so much to mine with the character that he felt a spinoff movie would instead do the character more justice. Which ultimately became a Mike-Flanagan-written movie that Reeves will only produce. The fact that Reeves then had to pivot to a different villain would also at least partly explain why The Batman: Part II script has taken him so long to write...

Martinez Nation, we made it onto IndieWire https://t.co/gE91tbUBqX pic.twitter.com/me6fNWWmif

— Officer Martinez ➐ (@CBMovieFan) April 30, 2025

Exclusive: What Is Going on With Matt Reeves’ ‘The Batman: Part 2’ Script?https://t.co/WMCfvd94BK

— Umberto Gonzalez (@elmayimbe) May 16, 2025

Yup heard this as well and that he was expected to be done by June. This is why I was never worried. He’s very very close to finishing. The plan is to start casting in July so hopefully we start getting updates in the Summer/early Fall https://t.co/tjVCLwToOu

— Apocalyptic Horseman (@ApocHorseman) May 16, 2025

This turned out to be horse****, just FYI.

From Matt Belloni's newsletter tonight...

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Have you heard about any issues between James Gunn and Matt Reeves? What's really going on with The Batman: Part II?

I'm told Reeves is set to deliver his script for The Batman: Part II on Monday - not a moment too soon for DC and Warner Bros. The DC co-heads, Gunn and Peter Safran, initially expected the script more than a year ago. It's now been three years since Reeves' first Batmanreboot with Robert Pattinson grossed nearly $800 million and prompted the swift announcement of a sequel. So yeah, the executives are frustrated at the delay, all the way up to Warner Discovery C.E.O. David Zaslav - who, if everything goes perfectly, won't get a new movie based on his most valuable piece of I.P. until October 1, 2027, nearly five and a half years into his tenure at the company.

But… issues? Rumors have circulated that DC was ready to move on from Reeves if he didn't write faster. But he's a notoriously slow filmmaker - the first The Batman script took forever, as well - and he had some personal issues to deal with. Gunn has pretty consistently made supportive comments about Reeves, including in an interview released today. "People should get off Matt's nuts because it's like, let the guy write the screenplay in the amount of time he needs to write it."

Crushed nuts or not, the question is whether that delayed 2027 release date will hold. A Warners source told me they're still planning on a shoot beginning in January, after Pattinson finishes Dune 3, which would provide enough time to keep the date. That's if the script and preproduction process go smoothly from here. So we'll see…

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Partners in Crime (Fighters) ⁦@mattsontomlin⁩ pic.twitter.com/smItoTOdEQ

— Matt Reeves (@mattreevesLA) June 27, 2025

Yes!

Finally.

'THE BATMAN 2' has officially entered pre-production.

Filming starts January 2026.

The hiring process has begun for production design, art direction, stunt coordination, costume, makeup, grip, lighting, camera, VFX, and post-production planning. pic.twitter.com/nR9OjPnviS

— The Batman Saga News (@TheBatmanSagaNW) August 6, 2025

Robin is reportedly in the script for ‘THE BATMAN - PART II’

(Source: https://t.co/DXdYa6Agvu) pic.twitter.com/ndDXkmOnU2

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) August 8, 2025

So... you wanna know what I've heard about THE BATMAN PART II script, huh?https://t.co/oAWcxCdPra pic.twitter.com/K1D4uFTWHP

— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) August 8, 2025

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I sat down with a well-placed source this week and asked about The Batman sequel, and this person told me that the script was "worth the wait."

They described it as a "big swing" for director Matt Reeves and his co-writer, Mattson Tomlin, and said that the duo is "really going for it" with the uncompromising sequel, which is expected to be just as dark as its 2022 predecessor, which grossed $772 million worldwide.

They also mentioned that the character of Robin is part of the script, which should pique the interest of agents across Hollywood.

I didn't press for too many more details, but it sounded like everyone at DC Studios is extremely pleased with the direction Reeves is going with The Batman Part II now that the script has been turned in.

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I can't imagine what Robin will even look or be like in this universe, but my interest is definitely piqued. On one hand, it's a great way to further separate this Batman iteration from Nolan's and Snyder's. But on the other hand, seeing as The Brave and the Bold will feature Robin as well, in the DCU, I'm a little surprised Gunn is allowing this.

Regardless, Pattinson's Bruce/Batman is so emo, serious, and stoic that having a potentially plucky sidekick seems like a fun way to both annoy him but also bring out the best in him. Could be a lot of fun.

Now, after literally years of guessing, hopefully we get news of the villain (or villains) soon as well.

Other things I'm curious about...

- Post Penguin series, after all of its critical success, how big is his role this go-around?

- Will either the Riddler or the Joker or both make cameo/limited appearances?

- Will Catwoman be back?

- Will Bruce finally be more of a public-facing playboy?

- Will they give Bruce a love interest?

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- Will Bruce finally be more of a public-facing playboy?

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I sure hope so. I appreciated the different take on Bruce - and The Batman is a *mostly* great movie... but I definitely do not want to see mopey, emo Bruce Wayne again. Hard to imagine Pattinson playing him differently though.

To expand on your earlier point of Bruce being so emo and stoic, curious to see how Pattinson takes that next step should their be a love interest.

And yeah, the "dynamic" between Batman and Robin is crucial.

As is the case in most sequels, please just don't try to do too much with all of this...

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I can't imagine what Robin will even look or be like in this universe, but my interest is definitely piqued. On one hand, it's a great way to further separate this Batman iteration from Nolan's and Snyder's. But on the other hand, seeing as The Brave and the Bold will feature Robin as well, in the DCU, I'm a little surprised Gunn is allowing this.

Regardless, Pattinson's Bruce/Batman is so emo, serious, and stoic that having a potentially plucky sidekick seems like a fun way to both annoy him but also bring out the best in him. Could be a lot of fun.

Now, after literally years of guessing, hopefully we get news of the villain (or villains) soon as well.

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Can Robin be played by the same actor or is the Brave and the Bold in a different universe? All these different universes are kinda a beating to keep up with,

A version of Robin was in The Dark Knight Rises, although he was not presented in the typical fashion for the character.

Watch them kill Robin

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TCTTS said:

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I can't imagine what Robin will even look or be like in this universe, but my interest is definitely piqued. On one hand, it's a great way to further separate this Batman iteration from Nolan's and Snyder's. But on the other hand, seeing as The Brave and the Bold will feature Robin as well, in the DCU, I'm a little surprised Gunn is allowing this.

Regardless, Pattinson's Bruce/Batman is so emo, serious, and stoic that having a potentially plucky sidekick seems like a fun way to both annoy him but also bring out the best in him. Could be a lot of fun.

Now, after literally years of guessing, hopefully we get news of the villain (or villains) soon as well.

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Can Robin be played by the same actor or is the Brave and the Bold in a different universe? All these different universes are kinda a beating to keep up with,

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Different Robin.

The Brave and the Bold = the DCU, which James Gunn's Superman kicked off last month. That said, don't expect the DCU iteration of Batman and Robin until 2028 at the earliest.

The Batman Part II = DC Elseworlds, which is basically anything that's not part of the main DCU. Releases October 2027.

IIRC the actor who played the gang initiate in the opening scene also played a quasi robin character in the Titans show. I wonder if that was on purpose

The Edward Cullen version of Batman was really good. I need to rewatch it and watch The Penguin show too before the next one comes out. I'm looking forward to that sequel.

But man keeping up with all the reboots and competing slapfight-averses are confusing and off putting. The old way of multi-movie sagas that are drawn out in phases doesn't do anything for me.

The marvelverse was made up of completely uninteresting characters aside from GotG and spiderverse (maybe these weren't MCU, don't pay enough attention to know), and the upcoming DC movie outlook is super bleak as well. Aside from Batman, none of the dc characters move the needle.

So, Gunn publicly denied Robin's inclusion...

https://deadline.com/2025/08/james-gunn-denies-robin-the-batman-ii-1236482939/

Gunn doesn't deny Robin is in The Batman Part II, he says that very few people have actually read the script. He's always very particular with his wording and what he actually says is incorrect. https://t.co/9bTMhi8101

— ViewerAnon (@ViewerAnon) August 9, 2025

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Gunn doesn't deny Robin is in The Batman Part II, he says that very few people have actually read the script. He's always very particular with his wording and what he actually says is incorrect. https://t.co/9bTMhi8101

— ViewerAnon (@ViewerAnon) August 9, 2025

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Geez, these folks can be like politicians... "I didn't NOT NOT say Robin is in it."

Duly noted.

Ha, seriously.

All I know is that Jeff is highly accurate. Yes, he gets things wrong every so often, but overall he's one of the most accurate reporters/scoopers in the game, with a decades-long track record.

Could this be one of his rare misses? Sure. But I also think Gunn's wording is telling.

Regardless, with casting about to ramp up, we should find out for sure here in the next couple months or so.

A Matt Reeves interview from 2022, in which he talks openly about how game he is to include Robin in the sequel. My guess is he found a way to do it...

Translation: I dig Robin as much as Batman and Robin is a great way to continue to push Bruce through further growth as a character.

— John Regan (@ShatterverseEnt) August 13, 2025

Cristin Milioti is seemingly returning as Sofia Falcone in 'THE BATMAN 2' according to @TheInSneider pic.twitter.com/bh3Vx46WfX

— The Batman Saga News (@TheBatmanSagaNW) August 15, 2025

Cristin Milioti is seemingly returning in 'THE BATMAN 2' according to @TheInSneider pic.twitter.com/pktXTGtUme

— The Batman Saga News (@TheBatmanSagaNW) August 15, 2025

Plot twist. Robin and Sofia Falcone are lovers.

THIS JUST IN via THE HOT MIC: At last week's CAUGHT STEALING junket, journalists were asked by publicists not to ask Zoe Kravitz any questions about THE BATMAN PART II because "she's not in it and doesn't know anything," per a source. No word on whether that's true, as we all…

— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) August 19, 2025

Matt Reeves on the script for ‘THE BATMAN: PART 2’

“Most important… is getting it to a place where I just felt it was the best script we could possibly write. I’ve been working really, really hard and kind of quietly with [Mattson Tomlin], and suddenly it’s like, okay, now this… pic.twitter.com/MvASaeUWgH

— The Batman Saga News (@TheBatmanSagaNW) September 15, 2025

https://t.co/5CNW1IUWOa pic.twitter.com/34hlkTLriA

— mattson tomlin (@mattsontomlin) September 15, 2025

Matt Reeves says they have shared #TheBatmanPart2 script with Robert Pattinson and he is "very excited."

They had to deliver the screenplay to Pattinson in a locked pouch. pic.twitter.com/hpp4tCeg3L

— Variety (@Variety) September 14, 2025

Matt Reeves confirms Cristin Milioti’s Sophia Falcone won’t appear in ‘THE BATMAN 2’:

“Cristin’s not in this one, but that’s because we were so deep into the script by the time of [The Penguin]... I think she’s incredible.”

(via @MTV) pic.twitter.com/bkwrnoRmiN

— DC Film News (@DCFilmNews) September 15, 2025

Matt Reeves confirms that they are now gearing up for ‘THE BATMAN: PART 2’

“We’re beginning. We’re staffing up. We’re starting to get our crew back together. We’re getting ready. We’re basically entering [pre-production]. We’ll be making the movie in the spring... super… pic.twitter.com/Abd0NX9P8q

— DCU PRIME TV (@DCUPRIMETV) September 15, 2025

Excited for this. As of right now, Reevesworld is the better DC timeline.