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Redstone said:

Then exclude that incident(s)

Review the many other recent incidents



A comet called 3I Atlas is passing through and leaving a debris field in Earth's orbit.
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Agristotle
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I guess it depends on your definition of "disclosure".

There will be no definitive declaration from government authorities. The stakes are too high and there is no way to force it.
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Re-upping this because it's a must read.

The whole thing is very highly quotable, but please just print and read.

It's at once a very helpful overview, a framework, and also a detailed sledgehammer to skeptics.

Meaning, even as we see mysticism, speculative metaphysics, taxpayer funded and decades long lies…..

There is, at the foundation of questions here, the undeniably and verifiably physical

https://www.unz.com/article/the-ufo-question-and-the-architecture-of-secrecy/
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Excellent repost. Definitely worth a read.
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Ha, this is so good...

Redstone
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David Icke on Area52.

And like Chris Bledsoe, demonstrating the desperate need for a grounding metaphysical - physical worldview. Perhaps like the Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox), Sacramental, liturgical, Logos of John 1 - centric one I've advocated for here.

Within that, room for discussion and investigation, including the "it's demons" view I disagree with (for instance, the formidable Fr. Seraphim Rose), but addressing directly why, instead of stumbling around.

Icke is so smart, knowledgeable, experienced, and knows relevant people all over the world, discussing the demon-ic in the astral, and yet still dismissible as delusional (not by me) BECAUSE affirmation is needed in these conversations.

It's weightier when discussing, say, entities in and out of our materialist understanding, to say: many creations, some faithful and some fallen - interacting with us in various battles, some wanting to be worshipped.
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Has it been revealed yet if the non-human biologics found in these crashes have any human like DNA?
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Yeah, there are credible-ish rumors that aspects of our DNA are similar, which is apparently another reason for the cover-up, given the implications. That said, it's all of course just talk for now.
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Artemis II

For the first time since 1972, clock at the Kennedy Space Center is counting towards a crewed mission beyond Low Earth Orbit.

I wonder if the same entities that have followed other crews will do so for this one.
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Honest question, is there a single theory ever presented anywhere that you don't believe? I've never seen anything like you.
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Well, plenty of conspiracies are true, and some are even obvious.

That said, I do NOT believe in one of the most popular of all time, a faked moon landing.

But I DO believe where the evidence leads, including many statements over many years from the family of Buzz Aldrin.
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Is James Fox and Fay Ann Potter credible? I definitely think so, especially when combined with Edgar Mitchell, a formidable man who was profoundly changed and absolutely believed in aliens, and then the other points about the moon I've detailed across this thread.
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Redstone said:

Well, plenty of conspiracies are true, and some are even obvious.

That said, I do NOT believe in one of the most popular of all time, a faked moon landing.

But I DO believe where the evidence leads, including many statements over many years from the family of Buzz Aldrin.


I don't understand your last statement, can you explain?
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Aldrin's sister is the most vocal, mostly to James Fox, major and excellent documentarian.

I believe we were followed to moon, structures were observed, and we were warned off. This has a lot of explanatory power, most notably THE WHY of ALL the MANY AND EXCELLENT arguments of moon landing deniers, one reason why it persists so strongly.
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This would be another example of many things being true at once.

YES - we went, NASA lies, cover-ups and photos manipulations….

Similar to-

These exist
Aliens, demons, "spiritual" / "dimensional" entities like machine elves, government theft and lies, our technology, foreign technology, cover-ups for various reasons, weather balloons, aerospace tests, drones, natural phenomena…..
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watty said:

Honest question, is there a single theory ever presented anywhere that you don't believe? I've never seen anything like you.


I just love that Redstone's answer to this was : "I don't believe in the most popular one because there's even something crazier going on than that!"
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Alright now

Either:
Gaetz is lying
A uniformed military man told him BS
Something like this is real

Regardless, maybe doubters should revisit their thoughts about nephilim and / or pledians

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The patterns, subjectively stated but somewhat and impressively stable across time and environment, I see them
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Humans breeding with aliens is about as believable as humans breeding with snails. There are an estimated 8 million forms of life on this planet, none of which are compatible for breeding with humans. Yet some alien species not only developed enough to build a way to travel between stars it also happens to be capable of breeding with humans?

This isn't Star Trek. Maybe Stargate
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How do you know they came from the stars, as opposed to another dimension, or our distant past here on Earth?

How do you know they didn't create us, thus allowing them to be able to bread with us?

I'm not saying I believe any of those things, I'm just pointing out that your skepticism is based on a number of assumptions.
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Although my own Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) worldview minimizes this, close textual analysis Protestants have been really good at highlighting that:

2nd Temple era authors, meaning about 200 BC to 200 AD, really did believe, and assumed their audience believed, that humans had relations with "non-human" cosmic entities that were….human enough.

Therefore, at a minimum, billions of people since then have venerated texts that took such lusty interactions as an obvious fact.
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redline248 said:

Humans breeding with aliens is about as believable as humans breeding with snails. There are an estimated 8 million forms of life on this planet, none of which are compatible for breeding with humans. Yet some alien species not only developed enough to build a way to travel between stars it also happens to be capable of breeding with humans?

This isn't Star Trek. Maybe Stargate


Oh boy. Heavy topic but definitely part of the lore.
redline248
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Are we talking about aliens or heavenly beings? These people need to make up their minds. Stop calling them the same thing.

I can't be the only one that hears/reads "alien breeding program" and rolls my eyes.
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Who says they aren't one and the same?

Again... assumptions.
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That said, the whole hybrid thing has been a core tenant of abduction stories for decades now. I'm not saying it's true, and it might sound wild, but it's nothing new is my point.
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Reminder, Friday on Amazon...

Redstone
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It is important to be precise with language.

If Jesus was God in human form, then he was alien to earth, -non-terrestrial, and -extra (depending upon definition).
(And I believe, following Anne Catherine Emmerich, that Adam and Eve were non-terrestrial cosmic entities hurled to earth from a real place "connected" to earth)

And yet, human. Were we also, in a lesser sense? ….did we have a consciousness "before" birth? It's reasonable theological speculation, especially if consciousness is what we "tune into," or "receive."
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Volunteering for the breeding program

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Redstone said:

Alright now

Either:
Gaetz is lying
A uniformed military man told him BS
Something like this is real

Easiest bet of my life. Give me the exacta on 1 & 2.
Redstone
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Maybe. Testimonies of related are persistent across time and environment for almost a century.
TKEAg04
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Duckhook said:

Redstone said:

Alright now

Either:
Gaetz is lying
A uniformed military man told him BS
Something like this is real

Easiest bet of my life. Give me the exacta on 1 & 2.

There are some pretty compelling things out there that say otherwise. Welcome to Oz.
MosesHallEnforcer
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Birthright by Alberino makes a pretty compelling case for all this crazy stuff. Lots of biblical and historical references, to support the framework.
TKEAg04
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Yep. Alberino is probably the best guide down the rabbit hole if you so choose.
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