*** UAP THREAD ***

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TCTTS
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Right, but he's still connected to the others who died more recently. It's still fishy as hell that that many people, at the same company, have died suspiciously within three years, and that they're all somewhat connected to other, broader suspicious deaths as well.
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The two that are missing are interesting to me. The one woman, I read, was on a hiking trip with another person, and the story was "I turned around and couldn't find her." I couldn't find out then, and haven't looked since, whether or not that other person was ever interrogated or treated as a suspect. I think they were in some remote woods or something.

What I read about the most recent missing guy was some doctors were worried about his health (I don't remember if it was general or mental). Also, his wife allegedly told 911 (or just direct police station) that she had reason to believe he meant to leave and not be found. She also kind of denied it had anything to do with the UFO stuff before supposedly joking "maybe they finally beamed him up."

One of the other guys appears to have been shot by a random person with prior arrests in that area. The interesting thing was one report says he was arrested 2 or 3 months prior to the shooting for trespassing on the scientist's property with a rifle. Was he really after something the guy had? Went back for revenge for getting arrested the first time? Or failed attempt the first time? Who knows.


Now, I will also say that I don't think it's too terribly strange that multiple people who once worked together start dying within a few years of each other, especially given some of their ages. People die for all sorts of reasons, and sometimes they are former coworkers. But I haven't dug into all the details for all 9
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I just watched the Bob Lazar S4 movie. Seems believable to me. If this was going on in the late '80s, I wonder what we can do in 2026...
Redstone
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points to keep in mind:

- Burchett, Luna represent:
McGhee Tyson Air National Guard Base
Arnold Engineering Development Complex (AEDC)

Very major testing facility for aerospace and propulsion systems

Extension area of MacDill Air Force Base, home to U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM)
Eglin AFB
MANY deep state operators crawling all over the place

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Second, we are all aware of the govt / contractor civil wars, of ideologies and options and tactics and disclosure means what

These 2 are heroic, and talk constantly to someone connected
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I've touched on this a bunch before, but I will simply never understand the demand that these people should risk completely ruining their lives for our satisfaction. As Redstone pointed out, should Burchett say/present what he knows, he would almost assuredly spend the rest of his life in prison. Now, is there a scenario where, if the evidence presented was so concrete/overwhelming it exposed the whole cover-up and reveled beyond a shadow of a doubt that we're not alone, thus the public outcry would be so great that someone like Burchett would eventually be pardoned? Sure. But how can you so nonchalantly ask someone with his career, family, etc to take that risk? I genuinely don't get it.

This is exactly what I'm saying. Burchett is no random lab scientist that no one has heard of. He's a high profile figure on the national political level, and IMO is untouchable (i.e., not at risk of getting "disappeared").
If he truly cared about this allegedly mysteriously killed/disappeard scientists and thought something nefarious was going on, he would be a true patriot and come out with concrete details. Career be damned.

Vague tweets and generalities only go to show that he's more likely a part of the deep state, or he's a "useful idiot" of the cover-up.
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Forget being killed. You're right, no one's going to murder him at this point.

Still, someone in his position can only be a "true patriot" if they're willing to sacrifice/throw away their entire career, family, etc?

I'm sorry, but that's insane.

I don't fault him one bit for telling us everything he can, while still trying to preserve his life, and continue to be for there for his family, his constituents, etc. Asking him to do anything more is wildly unfair, especially when you're flippantly making such demands from an internet message board.
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TCTTS said:

especially when you're flippantly making such demands from an internet message board.

Well, I'm not a congressman with access to super secret alien intel, so that's about all I can do.
TCTTS
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... or so you say.

Or, perhaps, you work for the legacy program and have been sent here to muddy the waters.

Hell, maybe you're even one of "them," influencing mankind since the days of Noah, hence your handle.

One can never be too sure...



Agristotle
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there are a lot of pressure points short of killing someone, and the intelligence agencies press all of them.
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Fwiw, the realwiseburger dude from the S4 doc is teasing some new photos of the hangar doors open and even photos of craft.

https://www.instagram.com/realwiseburger/
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Kasey will do anything to stay relevant these days
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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redline248
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Starlink is still in the "newish" phase that when people encounter it for the first time it's a wild experience.
Redstone
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Burchett and Burlison behind the scenes crediting Alberino with strengthening their resolve, meaning:

fully justified outrage by deep state + contractors cannot simply be cast aside by "national security" and "oh, that's demons"

This is multi-faceted, YES AND

so we have materials and biologics, stop lying and grifting …. efforts are heroic, let's support them

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Redstone
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This one hurts. A great man. Seek out his appearances on the also dearly departed Howard Hughes, The Unexplained.

Pope would say aliens are real, in ways that didn't break his agreements.

Redstone
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Pope was involved in the UK's Roswell, and here's a summary. Poke around and give our man some royalties.

https://nickpope.net/wpte19/rendlesham-forest/

Here is Hughes. Find Pope there.

https://theunexplained.tv
Redstone
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Lazar is telling the truth

Redstone
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Excellent follow up to the excellent first part

https://www.unz.com/article/the-ufo-question-is-not-an-american-question/

P1 is https://www.unz.com/article/the-ufo-question-and-the-architecture-of-secrecy/

Quote:

The phenomenon exhibits, across these contexts, the same core properties: performance characteristics outside any known aerospace envelope, apparent intelligently guided behavior, and a persistent correlation with nuclear and strategic military infrastructure. These properties appear in French soil samples, Soviet missile launch reports, Brazilian medical records, and Belgian radar logs as surely as they appear in American carrier-strike-group sensor data. The question the American-exceptionalist reading cannot answer is why if UAP is a product of American cultural anxiety or classified domestic programs it is leaving forensic traces in southern France, activating missiles in Ukraine, injuring civilians in the Amazon delta, and defeating intercepts over Tehran.
TCTTS
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Agreed. I just finished this one as well, and while there's not really any new info (though I don't expect there to be after nearly 40 years), it's the most undeniable interview yet in terms of Lazar's authenticity. He's just so clearly telling his story/answering Chris' questions from real memories, memories that are clearly attached to real emotions. IMO, it's pretty damn revealing in that regard.
Redstone
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He's fully vindicated IMO when combined with the newly circulated but old courtroom validations of appearing in the directory / IRS documents.

His claims have always been limited to his first-hand accounts, which are consistent.

AND, most important, what he was discussing with Knapp has been unfolding.
Redstone
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A connection worth making is:

2nd Heaven entities and portals, in and out of our physical world, which can be physically observed and even measured, with NDEs that describe similar, including "battles" …

First, there is serious scientific work being done at Skinwalker Ranch



Second, and I think related, are accounts such as Gabe, now on the podcast circuit selling a book (Randy Kay, Touching the Afterlife). He's quite detailed and sincere
- best reference, Blurry Creatures, episode 415
Quote:

Gabe Poirot died on October 25, 2021, after cracking his skull in half on a Texas road, and for 18 days while his body lay in a coma that doctors said he likely wouldn't survive, his spirit was somewhere else entirely
Redstone
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How could such realms / dimensions / physics be "disclosed?" It's not even well explainable by those immersed in it. So it makes sense when Burchett and Luna and Burlison indicate more info. as always forthcoming, which is and will happen, and yet Disclosure is elusive.
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Wow. Lazar is everywhere, and this looks to be the best, most in-depth interview yet, possibly by a wide margin. There went my night...


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watty
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For a guy who said of himself (on this recent Rogan interview) that he doesn't really like attention, Lazar sure does love attention.
watty
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FWIW I listened to his whole Rogan appearance but haven't heard his other stuff. I'm not sure what to make of his claims. I found myself leaning towards thinking he sounds like he's lying but certainly there were moments that were somewhat compelling. I look forward to watching the doc.
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I enjoyed the Area 52 interview more, but I'll say that I don't feel like I learned much that I hadn't already heard. A few things. Minor point, but I was suprised they only had vending machines there.
Redstone
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Around the 2 hour mark of the 5 hour Jesse Michaels interview with Alberino, they review several researchers worth checking out that are too little read today.

And it's not just first-hand testimonies, they're also correct to point out how credible Leir (the physician who removed implants and filmed in Turkey) was.
TCTTS
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