A major guest …. Methodist minister and Army Sergeant Lyn Buchanan
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Buchanan is legitimate and seems to have retained his Christian faith despite making some very wild claims. Participants and readers here may be especially interested in his understanding of space / time.
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Leonard 'Lyn' Buchanan worked for US Army intelligence for several years
A man who was once privy to highly confidential information about aliens has revealed where extraterrestrials reportedly have four alien bases on Earth.
America has always had an undeniable fascination with aliens and has had numerous projects looking into whether there's life on other planets than ours.
One famous program was the Stargate Project. This was a classified US military and intelligence initiative during the Cold War that was aimed at testing and evaluating remote viewing capabilities.
'Remote viewing' was a concept that was created physicists Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff at the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in the 1970s. A 1995 report prepared by The American Institutes for Research described remote viewing as 'the ability to describe locations one has not visited without prior knowledge'.
People working for US Army intelligence were trained to be so-called remote viewers one being Leonard 'Lyn' Buchanan.
Another remote viewer, Pat Price, was the first to locate the four alien bases on Earth. These locations were then revisited as part of the CIA's Project 8200 to see if anyone could back up Price's claims.
The sites Buchanan was tasked with monitoring as part of the project were in Alaska's Mount Hayes, Australia's Mount Zeil, Zimbabwe's Mount Nyangani and one in the Pyrenees Mountains.
Speaking on the American Alchemy podcast, Buchanan said that each site had different functions. The one in Alaska, for example, was there to gather intelligence, while the Australian installation operated as a UFO 'port of entry'.
Then, the Zimbabwe facility functioned as a repair center for extraterrestrial crafts, per Mail Online. Further information about the site in the Pyrenees Mountains remains unclear.
Supposedly during one remote viewing session where Buchanan was observing the site in Australia, those there were aware that they were being watched.
"The first thing that happened was they let me know that they knew I was there and that it was okay," he told podcast host Jesse Michels.
According to Buchanan, people who had remotely viewed the sites before him saw humans and aliens working together.
"[Pat] Price and Joe McMoneagle had found aliens and humans working side by side as sort of an intelligence gathering place," the US Army intelligence veteran shared.
But when he saw it, things had seemingly changed.
"I did Mount Hayes," Buchanan recalled, "and found out that the equipment was now automated and still running, but there was no need for personnel there."
Allegedly the facility was buried deep into the mountain and would be near impossible for somebody to find.
I’m excited to announce my memoir, Out of the Shadows, will be published by HarperCollins in North America on October 13, 2026. In the book, I break my silence to reveal everything I legally can about my investigations of UAP and non-human intelligent life on behalf of the U.S… pic.twitter.com/lX2sf4WpBl
— Jay Stratton (@jaystratton) June 3, 2026
Former senior U.S. intelligence official Jay Stratton's explosive memoir, "Out of the Shadows: Revealing the Truth About Non-Human Intelligent Life," hits shelves in North America on Oct. 13. https://t.co/BTMgDk6OmB
— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) June 4, 2026
David Grusch will discuss specific UFO and non-human intelligence-related evidence that he encountered in classified channels on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on Tuesday
— UAP James (@UAPJames) June 3, 2026
Grusch will be joined by Reps. Burchett, Luna, Burlison & Moskowitz to call for the release of this evidence. pic.twitter.com/qsvZS7SwKT
Tangentially related with the skinwalker ranch. Have not watched it all just a few minutes in/
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
I just finished the latest J. Michels podcast with the neuroscientist. It was fairly confusing about the math and proofs to get to what was stated, but the conjecture is really very interesting. Things like time dilation and how that is described mathematically in GR and quantum physics is amazing. Things like explaining with mathematics the observer effect in quantum physics. Branches of physics we thought we knew would be turned on their heads and it opens the door to truly understanding reality.
Biggest takeaway I saw was that the physical world around is not all that is out there and is extremely limited. NHI/conciousness/intelligence is likely EXTREMELY common, but with the caveat that it is outside of our human purview and not physically bound. Actually having a physical body is the extremely uncommon circumstance!
I'm curious to see the math. Ramifications to all of humanity and physics in general.
Biggest takeaway I saw was that the physical world around is not all that is out there and is extremely limited. NHI/conciousness/intelligence is likely EXTREMELY common, but with the caveat that it is outside of our human purview and not physically bound. Actually having a physical body is the extremely uncommon circumstance!
I'm curious to see the math. Ramifications to all of humanity and physics in general.
Methodist. I'd use "Christian" loosely.
Entertaining listen.
Entertaining listen.
There may be aliens stationed at five or six underwater bases off the U.S. coast, according to Rep. Tim Burchett.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) June 3, 2026
The 4chan whistleblower, especially regarding Bermuda
https://www.scribd.com/document/673635927/4chan-Ufo-Whistleblower
and the Grok summary of Buchanan above, regarding the mountain bases
do fit with other testimonies. As with grays and abduction, although the accounts are certainly less, its either one heck of a social contagion, mass disinfo, or something worth thinking about as subjectively experienced accounts of a large, complex, disturbing reality
https://www.scribd.com/document/673635927/4chan-Ufo-Whistleblower
and the Grok summary of Buchanan above, regarding the mountain bases
do fit with other testimonies. As with grays and abduction, although the accounts are certainly less, its either one heck of a social contagion, mass disinfo, or something worth thinking about as subjectively experienced accounts of a large, complex, disturbing reality
I'm halfway through and this whole consciousness thing is right up my alley. I love it.
My biggest takeaway is just how ridiculous it is that any human being can seriously think we even remotely understand our reality, what constitutes life/consciousness, etc. It's just laughable how people (especially the types who do drive-bys on this thread) can make such ridiculously confident claims that "aliens" can't do this or that, or, [because we can't perceive them] there's no way they're here, etc. Like Hoffman says, we're basically ants, wearing the most restrictive "headsets" ever, our senses dulled about as low as they can possibly go. In other words, we're viewing/experiencing reality through the absolutely thinnest of slivers.
But sure, we've got it all figured out, it's just us here, alone at the top of the food chain, etc.
My biggest takeaway is just how ridiculous it is that any human being can seriously think we even remotely understand our reality, what constitutes life/consciousness, etc. It's just laughable how people (especially the types who do drive-bys on this thread) can make such ridiculously confident claims that "aliens" can't do this or that, or, [because we can't perceive them] there's no way they're here, etc. Like Hoffman says, we're basically ants, wearing the most restrictive "headsets" ever, our senses dulled about as low as they can possibly go. In other words, we're viewing/experiencing reality through the absolutely thinnest of slivers.
But sure, we've got it all figured out, it's just us here, alone at the top of the food chain, etc.
This MIT scientist just dropped a bombshell realization about extraterrestrial life.
— Holden Culotta (@Holden_Culotta) June 3, 2026
Donald Hoffman’s work suggests the universe is filled with “life more advanced than humans.”
We just can’t see them.
Why?
They don’t have physical bodies.
He suspects the physical world is… pic.twitter.com/z7MB1gUYty
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This MIT scientist just dropped a bombshell realization about extraterrestrial life.
Donald Hoffman's work suggests the universe is filled with "life more advanced than humans."
We just can't see them.
Why?
They don't have physical bodies.
He suspects the physical world is not objective.
It's only a consequence of consciousness.
And consciousness is fundamental, not the physical world.
Hoffman: "The mathematics seems to indicate that embodiment is the exception, not the rule."
"And that our particular view of the world, I'll call it the virtual reality headset that we're using, for our embodiment, is one of the more trivial kinds of headsets."
"We often have the opinion of ourselves that we're pretty much near the top of the food chain, here on Earth anyways."
"But when I look at the mathematics of this trace logic, it indicates that our headset is one of the cheapest, most restrictive possible."
"And that there are all sorts of variations that are far more interesting and complicated than what we've got."
Translated into Apostolic Christianity, we are invited to participate in full consciousness, which is a divine and personal Spirit. By sin, our nous (perception, awareness, knowledge) is darkened, and yet this is where understanding of reality, and the divine realities from which it flows, faithful and fallen, is to be found. Therefore, our awareness and perception is stunted and fragmented, dominated by passion and affection for the sensory and material.
So "worlds" beyond, or "meta," exist. These meta-physical realities can and do interact with our stunted, materialist dominated understanding.
So "worlds" beyond, or "meta," exist. These meta-physical realities can and do interact with our stunted, materialist dominated understanding.
I can absolutely get onboard with this interpretation. In fact, it translates beautifully.
What keeps me at arm's length from modern Christianity is modern Christians then insisting that the God who created this scenario, before forcing billions of souls to participate in said scenario, demands they choose/believe in him, despite a wildly uneven playing field, or else they burn in hell for all eternity, despite God being all-knowing, thus knowingly sending the vast majority of his creations to be separated from him forever.
Call that "love" all you want. It won't stop me from calling it what it actually is: literally the most evil and sadistic thing I can possibly imagine.
What keeps me at arm's length from modern Christianity is modern Christians then insisting that the God who created this scenario, before forcing billions of souls to participate in said scenario, demands they choose/believe in him, despite a wildly uneven playing field, or else they burn in hell for all eternity, despite God being all-knowing, thus knowingly sending the vast majority of his creations to be separated from him forever.
Call that "love" all you want. It won't stop me from calling it what it actually is: literally the most evil and sadistic thing I can possibly imagine.
You've certainly identified a major obstacle to faith, which is why the Logos arguments St. John made to the Greeks (better than St. Paul) is so essential.
This is anti-materialist, but not anti-material, as the two should be in union and harmony. Anchoring to the sensual, material, temporary pleasures is self-harm BECAUSE of our potential: to be in the family of Reason, Order, Consciousness - a personal, creator Spirit.
Our consciousness, then, is not really ours, but only a participant within this Logos, some rather "advanced" and many not at all. We are antennas, and just as all can "play" basketball, only a few are the Spurs.
Hell would be a deliberate decision to tune out and turn away.
This is anti-materialist, but not anti-material, as the two should be in union and harmony. Anchoring to the sensual, material, temporary pleasures is self-harm BECAUSE of our potential: to be in the family of Reason, Order, Consciousness - a personal, creator Spirit.
Our consciousness, then, is not really ours, but only a participant within this Logos, some rather "advanced" and many not at all. We are antennas, and just as all can "play" basketball, only a few are the Spurs.
Hell would be a deliberate decision to tune out and turn away.
I agree with the antenna thing, and that our consciousness is likely part of a greater consciousness (call it God if you want), but that's about it.
You're still not accounting for the fact that none of this had to be this way in the first place. God could have just easily created some other scenario. But no, he actively chose the one in which he forces us into existence against our will (none of us had any choice in being born), then essentially says "choose me or else," despite making it far easier for someone like me to choose him, having grown up in Texas/the Bible Belt, to a Christian family, as opposed to being born in, say, India, to a Hindu family. Regardless, forcing *any* souls into a scenario in which they have even a slim chance of being eternally "tuned out" is pure evil, and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Thus, I choose to believe in a truly loving God/source of consciousness, not the modern Christian one.
You're still not accounting for the fact that none of this had to be this way in the first place. God could have just easily created some other scenario. But no, he actively chose the one in which he forces us into existence against our will (none of us had any choice in being born), then essentially says "choose me or else," despite making it far easier for someone like me to choose him, having grown up in Texas/the Bible Belt, to a Christian family, as opposed to being born in, say, India, to a Hindu family. Regardless, forcing *any* souls into a scenario in which they have even a slim chance of being eternally "tuned out" is pure evil, and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Thus, I choose to believe in a truly loving God/source of consciousness, not the modern Christian one.
We're not really disagreeing. Jesus has been present in our understanding for only 2,000 of the about 300,000 years of anatomically modern humans. I worship Him in the Sacraments of Christianity because, in our time and place, this is how the universal Spirit has revealed Himself.
The Spirit, the Consciousness, remains present and universal and universally accessible, desirous of relationship to creation. But, we must seek and we must choose.
The Spirit, the Consciousness, remains present and universal and universally accessible, desirous of relationship to creation. But, we must seek and we must choose.
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The 4chan whistleblower, especially regarding Bermuda
https://www.scribd.com/document/673635927/4chan-Ufo-Whistleblower
and the Grok summary of Buchanan above, regarding the mountain bases
do fit with other testimonies. As with grays and abduction, although the accounts are certainly less, its either one heck of a social contagion, mass disinfo, or something worth thinking about as subjectively experienced accounts of a large, complex, disturbing reality
I read that 4chan stuff back when it came out. It was interesting to read it again all these years later, after I have learned much more.
I think the subsea bases are being run by AI on auto-pilot and the original beings have been gone a long time. The NHI beings are bio-drones that have been created fit for purpose just like the UAPs.
This is my leading theory as well, as it accounts for the most questions/variables. That said, my guess is that the AI's creators have an intimate awareness of what's going on here, be them on another planet or in another dimension, and have likely even visited here themselves at various points. But yeah, my guess is most everything we're seeing/interacting with on a daily basis is super-advanced AI/bio-drones.
I believe a combination of Alberino's and Buchanan's view - some greys are bio-engineered, and the 4 or so general categories are a mix of decent and less decent … overlaid with the angel-ic (angels being "messengers") and the demon-ic (demons being narrowly considered by textual authors / compilers). "Nordics" also overlay with Alberino's view of those with an angelic nature, of whom we sapiens would be a "younger sibling."
Highly advanced AI is a fascinating wrinkle for sure though.
Highly advanced AI is a fascinating wrinkle for sure though.
Kudos to @rosscoulthart for this. https://t.co/Oh6q84lhpA
— Joe Murgia (@TheUfoJoe) June 3, 2026
How do you have forced breeding programs with things that don't have physical bodies?
Just because their default mode of existence might not be embodied doesn't mean they can't become embodied whenever they want, for however long they want. "The Grays," for instance, could be autonomous, bio-synthetic AIs - or - they could be bio-drones that bodiless entities are either inhabiting or "piloting" from a plane of existence we can't yet perceive.
I've given this analogy before, but it's one I heard a while back that really stuck with me. Basically, what if some UAPs are the equivalent of our submarines? In roughly the same way we need specially-made ships and gear in order to be able to explore such dense levels of pressure in our oceans, maybe ethereal beings made of pure consciousness need specially-made ships and bodies in order to be able to effectively measure and explore such dense levels of reality? Maybe it's something along those lines.
Also remember that we're likely not dealing with just one species. Some could be pure consciousness using ships and bodies to navigate our reality, while others could be "stuck" in our reality just the same as us, only more advanced than we are.
I've given this analogy before, but it's one I heard a while back that really stuck with me. Basically, what if some UAPs are the equivalent of our submarines? In roughly the same way we need specially-made ships and gear in order to be able to explore such dense levels of pressure in our oceans, maybe ethereal beings made of pure consciousness need specially-made ships and bodies in order to be able to effectively measure and explore such dense levels of reality? Maybe it's something along those lines.
Also remember that we're likely not dealing with just one species. Some could be pure consciousness using ships and bodies to navigate our reality, while others could be "stuck" in our reality just the same as us, only more advanced than we are.
I'd listen closely to Tim Alberino YouTube channel interview with the brothers / family of abductees, posted recently. (I believe them, but if they're lying what a con)
These are brutally physical experiences, that are not only that. In and out of our material understanding. And then, if we are embodied spirits, what is the "real us," even as we are now "centered" in bodies?
These are brutally physical experiences, that are not only that. In and out of our material understanding. And then, if we are embodied spirits, what is the "real us," even as we are now "centered" in bodies?
I go back to the "Telepathy Tapes". They discuss consciousness and the beings on The Hill. The beings job is to document all thoughts and experiences. It seems like with more unique thoughts and unique experiences "consciousness" expands and thus the universe expands.
My theory is that GOD is consciousness and we are extensions of GOD. (Kind of like a bunch of desk top and lap top computers connected to a master server). Our role is to have our own unique thoughts and experiences, which in turn expands consciousness (the universe) and expands GOD.
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When you look at what we are doing with AI, there is a problem the AI creators are having. Its that at some point AI will "know" all the stuff that we humans know. And AI wont be able to "grow" or "expand" any further because there is nothing "new" to learn. Now scale up that thought to what I said about GOD and us and consciousness. GOD needs us to have new thoughts and new experiences in order to expand. That is why we were created. Billions and billions of us are like the consciousness fingers of GOD searching for new and unique things.
My theory is that GOD is consciousness and we are extensions of GOD. (Kind of like a bunch of desk top and lap top computers connected to a master server). Our role is to have our own unique thoughts and experiences, which in turn expands consciousness (the universe) and expands GOD.
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Edit in addition:
When you look at what we are doing with AI, there is a problem the AI creators are having. Its that at some point AI will "know" all the stuff that we humans know. And AI wont be able to "grow" or "expand" any further because there is nothing "new" to learn. Now scale up that thought to what I said about GOD and us and consciousness. GOD needs us to have new thoughts and new experiences in order to expand. That is why we were created. Billions and billions of us are like the consciousness fingers of GOD searching for new and unique things.
If God is Conscious itself, and we are invited to participate, does a personal Spirit "need" humanity or any creation? Perhaps, if a deity is also Love itself, and by our decisions to love we also participate, then there is a desire for familial connection, for deliberate decisions of the created to join a heavenly court.
This is, according to Protestant close textual analyst Michael Heiser, the view of OT - NT authors, 300 BC or so through Titus in 70 AD (a major point of Revelation IMO).
This is, according to Protestant close textual analyst Michael Heiser, the view of OT - NT authors, 300 BC or so through Titus in 70 AD (a major point of Revelation IMO).
I agree with this AND I think GOD wants to expand his universe. More power.
Materialist investigators, at least some of them, are increasingly skeptical, and speaking more about terms like "love."
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/wilson-pollan-michael-consciousness-review-world-appears
The issue here, as always, is about means and direction. Is tripping acceptable? Where is the line of "natural" and the line of permissibility, if a deity exists? And then to what end, what goal?
The telos of life as theosis to Logos is my answer, but at a minimum it should be recognized such trippers tend to subjectively experience the "same" situations / entities …. which tells us something important about the meta or the beyond - it exists.
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/wilson-pollan-michael-consciousness-review-world-appears
The issue here, as always, is about means and direction. Is tripping acceptable? Where is the line of "natural" and the line of permissibility, if a deity exists? And then to what end, what goal?
The telos of life as theosis to Logos is my answer, but at a minimum it should be recognized such trippers tend to subjectively experience the "same" situations / entities …. which tells us something important about the meta or the beyond - it exists.
The growing push to study consiousness and the effects it has in the material world is growing. Kurt Jaimungal's (sp?) channel on youtube has several fascinating discussions about it with many top level physicists and scientists.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Grusch affirming his Catholic faith today, as an extremely intelligent and informed guy I want to like, Jorjani, is saying some horrid things on X and defending "Prometheus/Lucifer" (he's definitely a theist)
Continuing our convo of last night a bit …
for those IRL conversations barreling down the track like a freight train…..what is your meta-physic? What is the anchor of a worldview?
Continuing our convo of last night a bit …
for those IRL conversations barreling down the track like a freight train…..what is your meta-physic? What is the anchor of a worldview?
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