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7:34p, 6/12/26
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I feel like Emily Blunt could now totally hang with anyone in this thread. I love how deep she went in her research, and how open minded she is...



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12:48a, 6/14/26
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I don't know if this is what James Fox was referring to, but Grusch went on Fox News tonight and straight up said he's seen classified photographs of crashed and intact non-human craft. He even described the various shapes. Then detailed the "serious criminal enterprise" members of our government have engaged in to keep this all from seeing the light of day.

Again, I know we all want hard evidence, and I'm not downplaying how crucial hard evidence will be for most people. But this is, verifiably, one of the highest cleared, most trusted individuals in our government - someone who literally handled classified information for the President's daily briefing - confirming, yet again, that our government has a secret legacy program in which they have retrieved and attempted to reverse engineer non-human craft/technology.

Whether you admit it or not, this is a form of disclosure...





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In reply to TCTTS • 12:51a, 6/14/26
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Crazy to come home to see this, literally right after seeing Disclosure Day, which, despite its flaws, I really, really liked.

We live in incredible times.
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8:55p, 6/14/26
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Disclosure Day was great and I highly recommend everyone seeing it. My take:
  • This is clearly, unapologetically, a classic Steven Spielberg film. Full of emotion, thrills, humanity, and hopefulness.
  • Spielberg obviously spent a lot of time learning the vocabulary of the UAP phenomenon.
  • But do not mistake this movie for a documentary. It's a story told by one of the best modern storytellers, not "disclosure".
  • I'm not sure exactly why, but the movie I was most reminded of during Disclosure Day was the original Escape to Witch Mountain.I guess it must have been the chase scenes and sense of wonder.
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10:10p, 6/15/26
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My son and I watched it tonight.

A lot to digest. A lot to put words to. There is so much in this movie that is in the whole UAP/NHI zeitgeist that it's hard to unpack. Unless you have been researching this topic, you wouldn't pick up on 95% of what was presented. You would think it's just another, 'sci-fi alien movie' without really giving it another thought.

Spielberg did his homework no doubt and so did the actors. So much though is going to fly straight past the audience who just wants to see a movie with aliens.

Hopefully many of you on this thread watch this with an open mind. Much of what is portrayed is actually true - not all by any means with quite a bit of sci-fi - but quite a bit.

I would suggest going and just listen.
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10:47p, 6/15/26
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The more I think about the film, the more annoyed I get. Some thoughts, summarized from its thread:

The Phenomenon, phrase of documentarian James Fox, has significant evidence behind it. Including huge circumstantial evidence, similar across very diverse times and environment.

Speilberg and Koepp know ufology. Many other threads would have been superior than this gnostic, overly sentimental, anti-human dreck (including some Christian inversions).

For instance, a quick procedural about whistleblowers protections, followed by drama in the underground / skies / oceans, with humans and … collaborators … - that could have been amazing.

BUT most ridiculous aspect is

"Special" powers from trauma, especially childhood trauma? NO……this is Luciferian, since the time of the Phoenicians, who first did this large-scale.

Severe childhood trauma as a means of "illumination" : a wicked theme, a major reason, even if unspoken, why audience reception is tepid.

More details:
https://psyopcinema.com/

Alberino's excellent review:


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6:54a, 6/16/26
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Now that I have spent some time digesting it, I would agree with you Redstone. There is a huge sci-fi twist to this movie that I guess was thrown in to put butts in seats. The whole special powers thing was really odd. Maybe it's an homage to implants or something like that?

There was also a ton of ufology that 9/10 people aren't going to pick up on at all. The biggest topics of true disclosure today were portrayed as incredibly subtle and/or loosely tied.

SPOILERS BELOW

The whole gov. vs. gov. contractors is probably the biggest problem in disclosure now and the common person will not understand that from this movie very well. I guess RV was trying to be used with alien tools? The whole eye changing colors is something talked about with types of RV. The montage of videos had a bunch of IRL in it though which was cool though.

The entirety of the movie was odd to say the least if you went into the movie blind and clueless. I got where Spielberg was wanting to go but still make it a popcorn flick. It's score is definitely understandable now.
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In reply to TKEAg04 • 7:21a, 6/16/26
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Of our viewing group (wife and our best friends), I am the only one with any UAP knowledge at all. They went in completely blind, yet had a great time and were excited to talk about the movie afterwards. Small sample, maybe.
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In reply to TKEAg04 • 7:50a, 6/16/26
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The core of the film is "unique" or "increased" ability via trauma. This is real life in various lamentable ways and inherently evil. A major pattern of film as well. Spend a year with Psyop Cinema archives.

Many opportunity costs here, because the filmmakers know ufology, and this plot device is both tired and just wrong to use.
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In reply to G Martin 87 • 8:06a, 6/16/26
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G Martin 87 said:
Of our viewing group (wife and our best friends), I am the only one with any UAP knowledge at all. They went in completely blind, yet had a great time and were excited to talk about the movie afterwards. Small sample, maybe.


Just trying to frame my thoughts I guess. My son and I had a very lively discussion afterwards and he opened up about what he thinks. Overall it wasn't a bad movie at all. I just take an exception to some of the framing.
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In reply to Redstone • 8:11a, 6/16/26
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Redstone said:
The core of the film is "unique" or "increased" ability via trauma. This is real life in various lamentable ways and inherently evil. A major pattern of film as well. Spend a year with Psyop Cinema archives.

Many opportunity costs here, because the filmmakers know ufology, and this plot device is both tired and just wrong to use.


The trauma portion was tough to watch. Innocence robbed and memories severely repressed. I agree that it's inherently very evil for beings who want to be loved or worshipped in some way to do that. Is that what they were trying to do because that's what it seems like.
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9:15a, 6/16/26
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Really thinking through categories helps. I keep harping on this because foundational definitions and clarity of terms allow for clarity of thought and processing of difficult information.

- Supernatural, God, can interact with humanity, including materially (Logos of John 1, incarnate)
- Preternatural, "above" ordinary (materialist) nature while still interacting with it, such as "second heaven" of St. Paul
- Angel, close textual analysis of the 500 or so years of canon compilation indicates preternatural serving God as messengers to humanity
- Demon, same analysis reveals narrowly defined "accusers," or satans (reference: Protestant scholar Michael Heiser)
- Angelic / Demonic, actions of the preternatural, intentions
- Extra-terrestrial, a being whose primary domain is not of the earth

So, if humans are embodied spirits, what other "materialist" creations might exist in a gigantic universe?

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9:33a, 6/16/26
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It would then follow that those of human nature, of an angelic or preternatural nature, and those of a nature we don't understand - say, grey / nordic / insectoid / reptilian -

can choose to act in evil or not evil ways, and inflicting trauma upon a child is evil. It is not true power, and it is not true illumination.

Yet we do see such trauma as consistent across time and environment, including by our own military industrial complex, according to a huge number of testimonies. Which to me means this is real, and should never be glorified in pop culture.
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7:13p, 6/16/26
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Just watched the intro of this one and am hooked already. Interview with a former gate student trained to consciously operate reverse engineered UAP.

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9:31p, 6/16/26
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There are many contexts of being subjected to trauma by a handler until dissociation occurs.

This is an inversion of prayer and is inherently abusive. It also unites aspects of ufology, occultism / Luciferianism, and deep state "experimentation."
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 1:28a, 6/17/26
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I planned to watch this in parts over the next few nights. Ended up watching the entire thing in one sitting. So insanely compelling, while Jozak comes across as so insanely credible too. At least in terms of the level of detail/recall/names/receipts he provides. Not to mention, so much of what he says jibes with so much other stuff that's out there as well.

All I know is that the more I watch stuff like this, the more scientific research that's done, and the deeper the UAP rabbit hole goes, the more convinced I am that consciousness is the key to/substrate of everything.
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:25a, 6/17/26
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TCTTS said:
I planned to watch this in parts over the next few nights. Ended up watching the entire thing in one sitting. So insanely compelling, while Jozak comes across as so insanely credible too. At least in terms of the level of detail/recall/names/receipts he provides. Not to mention, so much of what he says jibes with so much other stuff that's out there as well.

All I know is that the more I watch stuff like this, the more scientific research that's done, and the deeper the UAP rabbit hole goes, the more convinced I am that consciousness is the key to/substrate of everything.


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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 9:22p, 6/17/26
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That story about the Orb was freaking nuts.
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2:03a, 6/19/26
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9:06a, 6/19/26
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The "gate boy" story sounds like Stephen King's The Institute.
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1:56p, 6/20/26
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Two videos worth your time

Preston Dennett, an overly enthusiastic perhaps but very knowledgeable researcher



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4:38p, 6/20/26
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As I've recommended here a few times, I've been listening to Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman's Sound, Light and Frequency podcast, and this looks to be, essentially, their whole story in one video, via Jesse Michaels interview. If so, I *highly* recommend giving this a watch, as their story is so damn credible/intriguing, I'll be doing the same soon, and will follow up after I do...


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In reply to TCTTS • 5:35p, 6/20/26
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it's always interesting to me the innoculation they do through this means. think of Signs just a few years after Varghinia(sp?) and any number of other movies.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

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8:17p, 6/20/26
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Hollywood has played an extremely pervasive role in both inoculation and suppression for a very long time.
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2:38p, 6/21/26
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Very interesting stuff about Nordics
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In reply to TCTTS • 1:42a, 6/22/26
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After three sittings I finally finished all 3h 40m and this now has to be one of my favorite Jesse Michaels interviews ever. Granted, I'm partial to Zabel, as I've been watching/listening to him for years, and thus already knew half of this stuff. But even outside of that it's an objectively great interview that's utterly compelling from beginning to end, wherein Jesse has his mind blown multiple times. Just so many wild nuggets from two highly successful, incredibly credible individuals. Some might balk at a few of Friedman's more out there expereince claims, but he's as level-headed as they come, and I at least believe that *he* believes this stuff happened to him. Anyway, give this a watch if you haven't already. You won't be disappointed.
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In reply to TCTTS • 10:35a, 6/22/26
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Combine the Alberino posted just above with those stories about Nordics, at Washington state islands or a hardware store. Angel-ic unaware, we are the younger sibling, ect.

There is a consistency and consilience, subjectively articulated and experienced. Wild times, truly.
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:09p, 6/22/26
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Listening now. fascinating stuff
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I really get the feeling that these beings will not allow a nuclear war to happen. Testing is one thing, but I think they will shut down the weapons, if anyone tries to use them, to keep the earth alive.
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5:50p, 6/22/26
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alarming in this sense also (I'm pro nuclear power + not far from a pacifist):

Wet streets cause rain. You know something about a topic, read an article or see a news segment about it, and say: "well, isn't that ridiculous garbage."

So, what else? (I recommend Ron Unz, American Pravda web series)

Point is, here, we have some of the most credentialed people on the planet, many dozens of them, talking about something SHUTTING DOWN NUCLEAR FUNCTIONS and then also BREAKING THE KNOWN LAWS OF PHYSICS….

And …. what? "I'm tired man, lot going on right now…." We live in Interesting Times, as goes the Chinese saying / curse
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In reply to Houston Lee • 7:18p, 6/22/26
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Houston Lee said:
I really get the feeling that these beings will not allow a nuclear war to happen. Testing is one thing, but I think they will shut down the weapons, if anyone tries to use them, to keep the earth alive.


Agreed. I also tend to believe that modern nukes upon detonation can do things to the underlying "lattice" of reality so to speak. The sheer amount of energy output in a localized area will almost have the same effect as a supernova creating a black hole. Mind you orders of magnitude of difference in scale, but the same kind of physics occurs. They are that powerful and dangerous.
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8:00p, 6/22/26
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Alberino un-paywalls an hour on abductions. I have to say he's my favorite ufologist. There's an essential point to keep in mind, which is that Jacobs et al. were very serious researchers AND there are commonalities, quite consistent across time and environment.

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