watty said:
Hard evidence is what is needed to move the needle any further than it already is. If you have the stuff, show us. There's nothing weird or puzzling or controversial about saying we need to actually see some sort of hard evidence before we fully believe that there are non-human beings flying crafts all around us at all times, that somehow only ever manage to get caught on blurry video.
What's really odd about this is that some of the people arguing the most with the doubters would also put their level of confidence somewhere less than 100%, so if you're allowed to be less than 100% sure, why am I not allowed to also be less than 100% sure?
Anyone feel free to answer, are you saying you are 100% sure that physical non-human intelligent beings are here, and flying/crashing their crafts on earth? 100%?
We all agree that hard evidence is what is ultimately required. I've said as much countless times now, as has damn near everyone else here.
No one disagrees with this.
But that's not ALL you're saying. You're ALSO then making wildly generalized/disparaging accusations about an entire group of credible individuals, based not on facts, but some vague gut feeling of yours that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You then dodge follow up question after follow up question when asked for specifics. I mean, there are multiple questions I asked you that you still haven't bothered addressing. And that's fine - you don't owe me anything - I'm just explaining to why your constant over-generalizing/avoidance rubs me the wrong way.
In other words, if all you were doing is saying, "This is all interesting, but I need hard evidence to fully believe," I would totally get that. That's a completely sane/reasonable way to approach this subject.
But that's not what you're doing. At all.
In the process, you're also making basically anyone who's involved with this subject out to be a liar and a grifter, while making it sound like every case/video out there has been debunked, when neither sentiment is remotely close to the reality. And when pressed, you then either repeat your misleading claims or ignore the questions altogether, never engaging with any actual substance or facts.
