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Agree. I don't know anything about physics, but Christians are obligated to believe in "one universe," especially against atheistic "multiverse," (a logical extension that Alberino explains very well) ….

"Hyper-dimension" is worth layman researching here, and makes a lot of sense to me. We have to be anchored in something solid given what's coming, and I hope it's the Logos of John 1, where reason and order itself is a divine and personal Spirit.
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Does anyone else find it at least a little amusing that a member of the federal government is telling us that we need to worry that the government is keeping things from us?
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Paula White crashing out - send the evangelicals in your life committed to the Demons Narrative some Timothy Alberino content
(Yes, I believe demons exist)

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Ghost of Bisbee said:




Truth really is stranger than fiction.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Yall remember that bombshell interview that was on Newsmax about 1.5 years ago, where the camera was night vision and it looked like they were transporting an egg over the ocean.

What ever became of that? Never hear about it anymore


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Developing story this morning.

According to @ChrisUKSharp at @LiberationTimes, two unnamed sources claim that a possible Disclosure pathway being considered may involve acknowledging the existence of recovered exotic vehicles, including U.S. possession of them.

This would represent an official acknowledgment that recovered anomalous vehicles exist, that the United States allegedly has access to them, and that other nations may possess similar materials as well.

The stated logic is national security. If adversarial nations are also attempting to exploit this technology, then the U.S. may decide that limited acknowledgment is necessary to increase funding, consolidate resources, and accelerate reverse-engineering efforts.

Would you accept that as Disclosure? Or at least the true beginning of actual Disclosure?

In my opinion, if it is admitted that these materials are in the possession of the United States, or any country for that matter, it would become glaringly obvious that they are not anything with a human origin. #ufox #ufotwitter

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TCTTS said:



Burchett is Collins Elite. This is a bait and switch.
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Nah.
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Empire of the gods, civil war, natural disasters, giants, better than Percy Jackson ….

Admiral Gallaudet affirms Atlantis is real, discusses it being "findable," ties it to research re: Plato, Younger Dryas catastrophe (~12,000 years ago), and ongoing team effort compiling data including potential seafloor location

https://www.thefp.com/p/the-admiral-who-says-atlantis-is-real-timothy-gallaudet

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Anyone who is friends with Alberino like Burchett, Luna, and Burlison is NOT the evangelical flavored Collins Elite (mixed likely w. Catholic / Orthodox / other religion that accepts demons)

They all advocate for multivariate explanations
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American novelist and literary critic @walterkirn is pointing to something larger than a simple debate over Disclosure.

He appears to be suggesting that the real fight in Washington is not just over whether disclosure happens, but over who gets to control the moment it happens.

If his read is accurate, and I believe it is, the delay may not be caused by secrecy alone. It may be the result of competing factions trying to shape the release, manage the framing, protect themselves, and decide which version of the story reaches the public first.

That would help explain why the entire process feels so unstable.

Hearings take place. Whistleblowers come forward. Legislation appears, then gets stripped down. Officials hint at extraordinary information, then retreat into careful ambiguity.

This does not look like a clean, orderly march toward transparency. It looks more like an internal power struggle occasionally breaking through the surface.

My read is simple: something significant is happening behind the curtain in Washington, and the pressure is beginning to force its way into public view. #ufox #ufotwitter

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Gerb said semi-directly Elizando part of an effort for narrow disclosure with Hillary, and then a split with Kirkpatrick as 2017 admin changed over …
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Makes sense.
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The interesting thing from that Burchett clip posted above is that he said the President is a skeptic. Has the President not seen, or been briefed, on the various info from these SCIFs to which Burchett references? If not, then I could still understand the skepticism. If so, and he's still a skeptic, that raises other questions.
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My boomer evangelical dad sent me this (it's a term of endearment ha!).
He said one of those pastors in attendance was from the big baptist churches in Houston. If I had to guess it would be someone from 2nd Baptist as ole Ted Cruz is very plugged in there.



cue its happening gif!
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I would take this with a massive grain of salt.
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IMO from reading around, just Burlison saying to some pastor friends he will try to get them briefed as strategic leaks accelerate. Without details and dates, assume telephone game.
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Several viable business podcast / YouTube set-ups in Heiser-influenced evangelical world have decamped to TN this past half decade ….

and I do think all 3 general groupings of Nicene Creed affirming Christianity can absorb this without too much trouble. Overly online Catholics will definitely have no problem.
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The most knowledgeable non-gate-keeper on the subject continues to have the most level head…


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David Grusch says it's "theologically premature" to equate UFOs to demons "I don't think humans understand all of God's creation"

"As an intel officer, a guy who studied physics, a practicing Roman Catholic like Secretary Rubio and Vice President Vance, I respect those views of spirituality and demonic deception. I think we should be concerned about that.

But I think it's theologically premature without knowing everything, equating everything to demons. Because God has created this wonderful visible and invisible order. He's created humans, animals, angels, and other types of non-human intelligence. I don't think us as humans understand all of God's creation."

"I think it's a very dangerous mindset to be in if you preconceive all of this as some sort of malevolence."
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My X feed has had a LOT more alien **** in the last 24 hours. That and the hantavirus scare. Anyone else?
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TCTTS said:

I would take this with a massive grain of salt.







Redstone
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Called it exact.

I grew up with these types of clowns, and while connected now to a different ridiculous clown show (Curia) the point is:

The Phenomenon, High Strangeness, is material and metaphysical, plenty of accounts of subjectiveness, the "personal" and the invasive … it's slippery, shadowy. Not all, but much of it ….

so self-important spotlight lovers, the "star" getting applause on Sunday late morning, can grab attention this way. The podium talk seems to be coming like a freight train, and clowns such as these pastors will "know" when we do.
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Coming on Season 5 of the Righteous Gemstones? The Evangelicals versus The Church of UFO grift led by Elizondo and Grusch. One only needs to watch "Age of Disclosure" with the view of a skeptic to recognize the offering plate of fame and fortune being passed around just like a Joel Osteen show.

I want disclosure to occur and believe that it will at some point, but either one of these factions leading the way is the first step to mass hysteria that is often mentioned. Ever believing that Elizondo and Grusch were the best foot forward on this topic is akin to having Giorgio Tsoukalos stand up at the podium on Disclosure Day and announce "It's Aliens!!" Inauthentic and spurious at best.
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Elizondo maybe/probably, but not Grusch. I don't know what your problem with him is, exactly.
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What did say that we've been able to establish is accurate since he came forward?

- ICIG / DODIG disclosure - they confirmed
- Provided disclosures in a SCIF - Congress confirmed
- 40(ish) witnesses - AARO Kirkpatrick confirmed he'd spoken to 40 (ish) witnesses
- AARO didn't email or call him - confirmed by FOIA (Signal contact to third party Chris Mellon from Kirkpatrick, is not a direct email of call to Grusch)
- Provided locations - Rep Burlison confirmed he has locations and has begun visiting
- Is not doing this for money - lost (at least) $500k since leaving his GS-15 role - no book, film, docu to date, no (paid) podcasts - nada

Michael wants you to believe that refusing to disclose classified SAP information and information not released by DOPSR is in some way an indication of integrity.

I'm skeptical of Michael's understanding of classified information (SAPs).

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As an example: Grusch saying that UFO disclosure is going to escalate in the next 60-90 days.

From a grandstanding standpoint, that seems outstanding and what we have all hoped for, but when you analyze the statement, it doesn't mean anything and is sensationalism and evangelizing at best.

The congressional testimonials are the exact same way.

I guess I will either be proven right or wrong in the next 60-90 days.
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If you actually watch the interview, and listen to the context surrounding that quote, Grusch…

- First throws cold water on the 46 UAP videos Anna Paulina Luna has been touting/trying to get released, which isn't very typical of someone prone to grandstanding/sensationalizing.

- Then literally says "I don't want to be too prophetic or say by a certain date something's going to come out, because there's a lot of causal factors, but I do have confidence that it's going to escalate in the next 60 to 90 days, and there's going to be a lot of pressure…" talking about what Congress is currently doing to try and continue moving the ball forward, not to achieve outright disclosure itself.
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Grusch speaks privately, officially, publicly under the severe threat of legal consequences.

He's an excellent filter to follow.
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