A few of thoughts from the trailer. It looks like we are getting the original TNG/late TOS era Klingons. Alien/Xenomorph type creature, perhaps we see some version of the Gorn this season in the flesh? It also looks like the Enterprise has seen a little bit of a refit too. The nacelle pylons and saucer look different.

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As long as it's about professionals being professionals while on duty and not cry and weeping in every situation, I'm in.

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They're obviously going to play on the sexual tension between Spock and Christine Chapel like they did in the first season IMO. *Doctor M'Benga has entered the game* But you know anything can happen.

I'm rewatching season 1 right now and I agree. It's been really good for what we have gotten from the franchise so far in this newer era. Looking forward to how this season goes for sure.

I think there's a marketing/cycle of consumption that was missed here with how Picard and Mando Season 3 coincided with how they ended. Seems like whoever could have pre-empted the other to jump in and take the spot would have profited here. We effectively have about a month where there's no new Star Trek/Star Wars.

Somewhere, down the road, I hope they fill in the back story on Chapel and M'benga. Seems like they had some adventures during the war.

I love her so very much.

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Pike gets better every episode. He doesn't take himself too seriously while still leaving no doubt that he's capable in command.

I thought the trial was going to be boring, but it turned out to be excellent.

But now that timeline has been adjusted from when Pike went to the future and No. 1 was still in prison.

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I've enjoyed this, but its flaws are pretty glaring. For one thing, a military ship captain that defers to groupthink and likes to serve yuppie style group dinners!? That alone isnt that big of a deal but the failure of understanding of human nature it requires tends to pervade other plot lines. That said, there were 3 or 4 episodes that i recall liking quite a bit.

I just binged S1 and then the two episodes here in S2.

The ending of S1 replaying the original story using as many of the original script lines as they did was as good a time travel story as you can get.

Episode 3 was fun. Pretty sure our girl left a loaded gun in a child's room though.

bobinator said:

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Episode 3 was fun. Pretty sure our girl left a loaded gun in a child's room though.

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a genocidal maniac child. Giving him a gun is just helping him along his path.

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bobinator said:

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Episode 3 was fun. Pretty sure our girl left a loaded gun in a child's room though.

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she is my least favorite character on this show (next to Carol Kane's Pelia) , and I groaned when I realied she was going to be the main focus for this episode, but overall I liked it.

That said, I think she fell for Kirk way too quickly, But kudos to the writers for trying to round off some of her rough edges and make her more likable.

And also for not falling for the easy trope of making her a lesbian.

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Pelia is currently terrible, as is the Erica Ortega character.

She's actually what set Khan on the path!

Catching back up on the season. Episode 3 definitely felt better and 2 was clearly the series' court room episode. At the end of this week's episode I was wondering if Pelia might show up but guess not.

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jabberwalkie09 said:

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Catching back up on the season. Episode 3 definitely felt better and 2 was clearly the series' court room episode. At the end of this week's episode I was wondering if Pelia might show up but guess not.

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she was talking to Pike and No 1 at the end?

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Sorry, I meant show up and speak to La'an

Yeah I thought they'd close the loop on that somehow also. Some kind of knowing nod or something.

bobinator said:

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Yeah I thought they'd close the loop on that somehow also. Some kind of knowing nod or something.

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Right, the awkward look from in front of the captain didn't really do that for me. The other thing that bothered me was that Pelia should have had some kind of familiarity with La'an. Other than making sure the all is right with the galaxy, we were left with her being essentially in the same place she was before. Maybe even worse since she can't talk about her adventure in the past with alternate timeline James Kirk.

I'm beginning to wonder how much the Romulans will play into the series/season. TOS was more Klingon centric but I guess we will see.

On a separate note, I thought Paul Wesley was fine. In some ways he reminded me of Chris Pine's version but different enough that he didn't copy Shatner or Pine. He definitely carried the episode more than Christina Ching (La'an) did imo.

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bobinator said:

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Yeah I thought they'd close the loop on that somehow also. Some kind of knowing nod or something.

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but that timeline was destroyed.

she knows nothing.

she is from a long-lived species, not a semi-omnipotent one like Guinan.

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I disagree. She met Kirk and La'an before the fork in the road (destruction of the reactor or Khan's death). She should still recall her. Only plausible excuses are that she did too much booze and forgot or that she's lived for so long that her memories mix/blend together. That doesn't really jive since she clearly remembers Pythagoras.

And before I forget, the premier felt wrong. I liked the Chapel and M'Bega story but Spock stealing the Enterprise just didn't work for me.

No it wasn't, the destroyed timeline would have branched off when the Romulan would have killed Khan, but she stopped that from happening (which is why Kirk's timeline was erased.)

Also expected it/thought it would have been a nice touch that someone else remembered since the whole episode was about her going through things alone.

bobinator said:

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Also expected it/thought it would have been a nice touch that someone else remembered since the whole episode was about her going through things alone.

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Right, M'Bega's comment about her being alone then the events of the episode just puts her back emotionally where she was at the start.

This gets confusing to talk about but if traveling back creates a separate timeline for the traveler then they aren't really protecting the timeline like the woman at the end indicated the goal was.

If nothing they were doing was on the prime timeline then why worry about doing it at all?