Anyone seen Sound of Freedom?

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I just saw the movie and it is damn good. It is a REALLY BAD LOOK for libs to be coming out against it. I cannot imagine how any decent human being can come out of that movie and say "damn.. I wish that movie was never made".

And the notion that Ballard "puts more kids in danger than otherwise" is absolutely the biggest steaming pile of **** I have ever heard. Even if 99% of kids he rescued went back into sex work, that 1% is better off then if Ballard's foundation didn't exist.

I have huge doubts that Ballard is a grifter. Why? Because it's liberals who make that claim. The same libs who claimed Trump called White Supremacists "very fine people", Russia collusion, "Hands up don't shoot", Wuhan Covid labs, etc. They lie time and time again without batting and eye.
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I'm gonna go on record and still blame the Mexicans
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My two local theaters have been doing 4 and 8 showings per day on average. Today they have slowly increased up to 7 and 14 showings. Every single showing is prebooked with just a few front row seats available with the exception of the 11PM showing just added this morning that already has 24 seats purchased. 11 PM in our sleepy suburb is insane to think you will sell any tickets, yet here we are. 10PM has been selling out all week

My wife went to her monthly women's wine night and 4 of 10 have seen it and loved it, 4 of 10 have tried to see it and intend to, 2 of 10 had not heard about it.

In my area it appears it will continue to perform exceptionally well through next weekend at minimum. I said it early on, but someone needs to focus on making movies that matter to average Americans. I understand there is a niche for Marvel type movies and they have a very high floor, even if hated they will perform at a certain baseline. There is a big market for these $10-$20M movies that are great stories and resonate with a large % of America.
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Eso si, Que es said:

I said it early on, but someone needs to focus on making movies that matter to average Americans.


Bingo. As much as many of them , like the handful on this board, will hate it, the last few years of movie homeruns and flops proves that doing one of two things is pretty smart. If you're going to make a high budget blockbuster that you want all of America to show up and see, don't inject woke signaling. Top Gun Mav was the best example of this - under different leadership with a different vision that movie could have been a disastrous flop, but they made the movie that people showed up for and brought their families to see. The Twitter and Reddit mob railed against it because it wasn't catered to their version of reality, but the sound of the money counter and Tom Cruise laughing drowned that out. That was smart. Or, you can do what this studio has done with SoF and just make a smaller budget movie targeted directly at the half of America that Hollywood generally ignores. They're out there and have money and want to go to the movies, but have largely stopped going because of Hollywood's incessant need to inject woke signaling unnecessarily into so many movies.

There's enough studios in Hollywood and enough American moviegoers to crank out good movies that will make money, that are meant to entertain and satisfy particular audiences. Hollywood of late has just failed to realize that if you're going to spend hundreds of millions making something, you need to make it good and make it for the average family.
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Top Gun: Maverick had a RT score of 96% 99% respectively, no one was rallying against it in any significant way.
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Go back and check out the woke mob on Twitter and Reddit. They are an extremely loud minority, and Top Gun Mav helps prove that neither their praise nor outrage should be listened to. Hollywood keeps churning out turds that are applauded by those vocal groups which then lose money or break even. Painful lessons, but Hollywood is learning.
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Cliff.Booth said:

Go back and check out the woke mob on Twitter and Reddit. They are an extremely loud minority, and Top Gun Mav helps prove that neither their praise nor outrage should be listened to. Hollywood keeps churning out turds that are applauded by those vocal groups which then lose money or break even. Painful lessons, but Hollywood is learning.
I am sure you can find some doofus on reddit/twitter at the time, but by and large MSM loved this movie. Even the liberal adrenochrome addicted groomers at Cannes gave it one of their overly long ovations.
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Yeah, if you'd care to look you can find many thousands of doofuses calling it nationalist right-wing propaganda and not inclusive. If the movie had been made to suit them it would have lost money. TG was a massive wakeup call that blockbusters don't need to cater to the far left, if you like making money.
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I for one think Top Gun has always catered to the homoeroticism enjoyed by both liberal and conservatives alike.

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Doug, what you enjoyed about the movie is all good. There was a lot like about it.
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noticed that it jumped from 2900 theaters since the start of its run to 3,265 theaters on Friday. With all the blockbusters releasing it is incredible this thing is gaining theaters 10 days into it's run.
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Watched it last night w fiancee w a full house at CStat Cinemark.
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Where does it happen in America? Rub and tugs for Asian immigrants and seedy Hispanic rub and tugs for Latin American immigrants? Outside of sex slavery, im not sure how prevalent slavery is in America. I do think it is more prevalent in other Latin American countries.
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Thoroughly crushed. Lol. Whatever.

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Nice non-response. So are you going to actually answer the question?
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No one crushed anyone. What I saw was a ton of emotional responses that never really addressed the questions.

Contrary to urban legends about kids getting abducted in Target parking lots by strangers, or anonymous figures snatching children from alleyways, the majority of child trafficking victims know and trust their traffickers, explains Teresa Huizar, CEO of the National Children's Alliance (Huizar has not seen the film yet, but was able to provide context about the myths and realities of child trafficking). "Some are throwaway kids. They are kicked out of their homes and trade sex for food and a place to stay, and end up being trafficked by a pimp," she says. "In a lot of these cases, the trafficker starts out calling themselves their boyfriend or girlfriend." Indeed, a large body of research shows that many child trafficking victims are LGBTQ or gender nonconforming youth who have been kicked out of their homes and forced into the sex trade by someone close to them.


While Sound of Freedom almost exclusively focuses on very young children, the majority of child trafficking victims are adolescents or teenagers, says Huizar. (A report from the Counter-Trafficking Data Collaborative states that 67 percent of children trafficked are between the ages of 15 and 17). While there are, of course, cases where child trafficking victims are much younger than that, they overwhelmingly and heartbreakingly tend to involve parents with substance abuse issues selling their children for drugs, Huizar says.

"We want to believe that people trafficking children are unknown, nefarious strangers," she says. "[It] makes people uncomfortable to think some of these things happen in their own communities, in their own schools, with people they might run into at the grocery store."

The lack of focus on tragic cases like these, in favor of more dramatic narratives about international rescue missions and shadowy strangers abducting kids, has resulted in a skewed perception of child trafficking. By ignoring the realities of what victims and traffickers look like, and the larger structural issues that prevent at-risk children from getting help like, say, widely available, government-funded substance abuse treatment programs for families struggling with addiction, says Huizar anti-trafficking movies like Sound of Freedom and the 2006 blockbuster Taken may have the unintended effect of not shedding light on a very serious and real problem, but obscuring it.


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sound-of-freedom-child-trafficking-experts-1234786352/


I can already hear folks *****ing about the source being Rolling Stone, but for those that want to hammer me about not seeing the movie (which I was 100% clear about and even conceded that even if the movie is 100% accurate, that doesn't change the questions) take your own advice and read the article. The items to pay attention to have nothing to do with Rolling Stone or the writer, but are direct quotes from people that are experts in this.
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It's Rolling Stone
Macarthur
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LCE said:

It's Rolling Stone


Right on cue
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Macarthur said:

LCE said:

It's Rolling Stone
Right on cue
Right on cue, yourself. We don't have to abide by your pathetic attempts to immunize yourself from using them as a source. Rolling Stone seems to have no problem bashing documentaries and movies that highlights sex trafficing, yet praise the hell out of sketchy pedo shows like Cuties. It's funny how Rolling Stone goes out of their way to criticize this movie for not highlighting X, Y, and Z, but they themselves don't write articles highlighting X, Y, and Z. Hell one of their authors stated the movie was about a "white savior". Pathetic how everything is about race and politics to them.

What I find hilarious, is that the source of that Rolling Stone article herself hadn't even seen the movie. And her point is stupid regardless. That's like somebody criticizing a WW1 movie because WW2 killed more people. This movie is about A PARTICULAR RAID. Those kids were kidnapped a particular way, and this movie showed that. It would be STUPID for them to change it so that the kids were instead "LGBT kids kicked out by their parents". Since that's not at all what happened.

This is extra hilarious:

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The lack of focus on tragic cases like these, in favor of more dramatic narratives about international rescue missions and shadowy strangers abducting kids, has resulted in a skewed perception of child trafficking. By ignoring the realities of what victims and traffickers look like, and the larger structural issues that prevent at-risk children from getting help like, say, widely available, government-funded substance abuse treatment programs for families struggling with addiction, says Huizar anti-trafficking movies like Sound of Freedom and the 2006 blockbuster Taken may have the unintended effect of not shedding light on a very serious and real problem, but obscuring it.
LOL.. so government is always the solution for these morons. This shows to me that she's not the expert she thinks she is. If you look at their web page, it's all about the legislation they have pushed for. If you go and see how the various cartels were crushed in Columbia it was by people like Ballard who went there and did the hard work. Not the lobbyists and idiots that wrote articles about advocacy from the comfort of their high rise apartment. Hell, in many cases those morons were IMPEDIMENTS as their influence added so much red tape that it made it hard to do the real work. It's clear that she just had something to say that Rolling Stone wanted to hear.

And the notion that this movie "obscures" anything is freaking moronic. People are paying 1000% more attention to trafficking now than before the movie came out. This ***** should be THANKFUL of that. Does she seriously think that if the movie focused on a kid who was sold into slavery by her parents, that some of the crappy parents would think twice about doing it in the future? Hell no. This is just something to complain about for the sake of complaining.


And lol on Sapper. His entire point was basically "but Ballard doesn't perform therapy himself!!!" It was laughably naive and stupid. If you can't see that, then you blindly got an ideological axe to grind.


Here is a question: Are you going to see the movie?
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This thread: literally 29 pages of people trying to "gotcha" each other. How are you guys not bored yet?
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there were about 12.5 million slaves in the US. Almost all of them were sold/shipped here from their own families/neighbors in Africa.

I take exception to the movie "12 years a Slave" because it focused on one man being stolen in America and forced into slavery. It obscured from the real epidemic of slavery.



The attempt of these people to try and paint Sound of Freedom in a bad light is glaring and you are trying to carry their water for them. It is a horrible look for you and them, and it makes me question their sincerity, not only on this topic, but every other topic.
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Macarthur said:

LCE said:

It's Rolling Stone


Right on cue


Brah…
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Macarthur said:

LCE said:

It's Rolling Stone


Right on cue


Right on cue is right…

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sex-scandal-at-duke-113674/
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My wife and I saw it this morning (9:15am Sunday, 44 out of 50 seats sold) and it was profoundly impactful on us.

We live in Houston, which is I'm told ground zero for human trafficking and sex slavery in the US. We're looking into how we can help locally (project lipstick and others) and we're encouraging others to see the move and do the same.

That any of this is political is mind-boggling. There was NOTHING in the movie that was political, and if you think this issue is a team sport then I'd strongly suggest you reevaluate.

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So confused on why moderation shows up today and deletes some of the more innocuous posts from today after leaving this thread up this entire time.
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Sound of Freedom has legs.

BoxOfficeMojo.com has it doubling up on Indiana Jones each of the last three days.
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Protect a certain poster.
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They're now up to $85 million.

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Eso si, Que es said:

My two local theaters have been doing 4 and 8 showings per day on average. Today they have slowly increased up to 7 and 14 showings. Every single showing is prebooked with just a few front row seats available with the exception of the 11PM showing just added this morning that already has 24 seats purchased. 11 PM in our sleepy suburb is insane to think you will sell any tickets, yet here we are. 10PM has been selling out all week

My wife went to her monthly women's wine night and 4 of 10 have seen it and loved it, 4 of 10 have tried to see it and intend to, 2 of 10 had not heard about it.

In my area it appears it will continue to perform exceptionally well through next weekend at minimum. I said it early on, but someone needs to focus on making movies that matter to average Americans. I understand there is a niche for Marvel type movies and they have a very high floor, even if hated they will perform at a certain baseline. There is a big market for these $10-$20M movies that are great stories and resonate with a large % of America.
so this HAS to get onto a streaming service after it's success right?

right?
aTmAg
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What posts were deleted?
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Hmmm



Squadron7
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Hmmm





To be fair, Minor Attracted Persons are not stigmatized at all by around 81,000,000 voters in this country!
Dimebag Darrell
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LOL, crazy how much it is making writers for trashy leftist rags squirm and complain.

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Hmmm




Geez WTF? Thanks for sharing.

if not for guys like Andy Ngo, who do true uncomfortable investigative work, none of this stuff would ever come to light.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

This thread: literally 29 pages of people trying to "gotcha" each other. How are you guys not bored yet?


It never gets old watching people attempt to defend sex traffickers.
 
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