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So much better than The Seed Bearer, which was the original title (for real).

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Disagree, I liked that better.

It just sounds cooler. A bit more ethereal, in a sense.

Sort of like The Phantom Menace, whereas Fire And Ash is more like Attack of the Clones. Not really nuanced at all, and just doesn't sound as cool. It's just a literal description.

Fire and Ash sounds badass. Coupled with some of that concept art, this third entry already looks and sounds a more hardcore, which would be awesome.

Conversely, there's not a single audience member over the age of 12 who wouldn't immediately chuckle at The Seed Bearer. It straight up sounds like the porno version of an Avatar movie. And ethereal porno, I'll give you that, but a porno nonetheless.

I'm starting to get weirdly - maybe even overly - excited for this entry.

Yes, I unabashedly love the first two movies, but I can't say that I was nearly as excited for The Way of Water as I was for any given Marvel/Star Wars movie, and definitely not remotely in the same vicinity as a Top Gun: Maverick or Nolan/Villeneuve movie.

But this? Introducing an evil, sicko, fire-wielding tribe? Hell yeah. Not to mention the jellyfish sails and whatever else is going on in these images.

I also love how Cameron seems to be covering all the elements with this trilogy. Water in the last one, obviously, "earth" in the first one... and now wind and fire.

I don't care how cheesy/on-the-nose it can all be at times, I can't wait...

"why does james cameron want to spend the rest of his career making avatar movies" probably because he has a literally endless list of sick as hell ideas for them https://t.co/0oMHsMCXLt

— John DiLillo (@JohnDiLillo) August 10, 2024

Can’t stop thinking about how AVATAR 3 is going to be about Jake joining wind Na’vi who have beautiful flying ships that use massive jellyfish as sails, fighting against an ultra-violent Na’vi fire cult, no other blockbuster in the next few years will come close pic.twitter.com/PPeOKtoMou

— an especially dangerous dug called Brendan (@metaplexmovies) August 10, 2024

JIM CAMERON'S 40 YEAR PLAN IS COMING TO FRUITION https://t.co/f0FrzT5DGr pic.twitter.com/YklGCJe2CI

— Transfemme Fatale (@SpaceSweeper) August 10, 2024

Also, even though two more movies are planned after this one, for 2029 and 2031, this one was/is meant to serve as a conclusion/trilogy topper of sorts. At one point Cameron said he may not even direct 4 and 5, and let someone else take the reins instead (though he seemed to eventually go back on that). Regardless, in combination with the bigger gap between 3 and 4, I'm expecting a certain level of finality in this one, meaning a big death or two, which would obviously up the stakes here.

James Cameron discusses the meaning behind the title #AvatarFireAndAsh. pic.twitter.com/B3LomKbXAz

— Rotten Tomatoes (@RottenTomatoes) August 11, 2024

Disney Experiences Chairman Josh D’Amaro just announced that Disney is "adventuring further into Pandora" with a new destination at Disney California Adventure based on The Way of Water pic.twitter.com/tHQK0kk3I2

— Mickey Views (@MickeyViews) August 11, 2024

James Cameron confirms he intends to direct Avatar 4 & 5

“Absolutely. I mean, they’re going to have to stop me. I got plenty of energy, love doing what I’m doing. Why would I not? And they’re written, by the way. I just reread both of them about a month ago. They’re cracking… pic.twitter.com/LUpeK3cNgY

— Discovering Pandora (@discoverpandor4) August 12, 2024

They already kind of cheapened death by taking the major deaths from the first movie, Sigourney Weaver and the villain, and reincarnating them through science and Pandora magic in Avatar 2.

Just revealed at #D23Brasil. New concept art for Avatar: Fire & Ash.

See Pandora like never before, in theaters December 19, 2025.

Illustrated by Steve Messing pic.twitter.com/WGF0vZ1BuJ

— Avatar (@officialavatar) November 9, 2024

Just revealed at #D23Brasil. New concept art for Avatar: Fire & Ash.

See Pandora like never before, in theaters December 19, 2025.

Illustrated by Zachary Berger pic.twitter.com/Bi6DEzH9hu

— Avatar (@officialavatar) November 9, 2024

Just revealed at #D23Brasil. New concept art for Avatar: Fire & Ash.

See Pandora like never before, in theaters December 19, 2025.

Illustrated by Dylan Cole pic.twitter.com/EZmS2DOE8s

— Avatar (@officialavatar) November 9, 2024

I will say this - James Cameron knows how to build technology that looks right at home in a science fiction environment. The design of his sci-fi movies have always been fantastic. Just leave the politics out and tell good stories, which the original Avatar was not. I liked The Way of Water better.

400 days until Avatar 3.

The Pandora land is really impressive. The two rides, though, are a bit underwhelming by Disney standards.

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The Pandora land is really impressive. The two rides, though, are a bit underwhelming by Disney standards.

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I really liked the Avatar Flight of Passage VR ride at DW. Probably one of my favorites up there with Guardians of the Galaxy and the Aerosmith one.

Flight of passage is incredible

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/avatar-3-ash-clan-hardship-james-cameron-exclusive/

Anyone play the avatar game? It any good? Compare it to Outlaws?

I recently got a PS5 and both of those games are on my queue. Will report back.

Outlaws is pretty great. Same developer

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James Cameron knows how to build technology that looks right at home in a science fiction environment. The design of his sci-fi movies have always been fantastic.

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I would argue against this in Avatar. His soldiers wear Oakley shades & G-Shocks.
They have hydrofoil boats, machine guns & what are basically helicopters or jets.

Meanwhile, they can go into hypersleep & traverse between star systems. Seems to be a disconnect in the technology capabilities while on/off planet.

Then again, I suppose it wouldn't be much of a story if the humans just unleashed an air force of 10,000 armed drones to seek & destroy the Navi.

Also, Fire & Ash sounds like the title of a Romantasy novel.

I get what you're saying with regard to the technology. My mom said while watching Aliens, "they're still using those?" when Hicks told Ripley she was grinding the transaxle in the APC. The helicopters and hydrofoils in Avatar aren't massively futuristic designs like one might find in a Star Trek movie, but they do look to be natural evolutions of present-day designs for such things. Back to Aliens, the dropship looks very much like something out of science fiction, but still has elements that would fit right at home on something like an Cobra helicopter with that tandem cockpit.

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they do look to be natural evolutions of present-day designs for such things.

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I agree, they look to be about 50-odd years into the future.
Whereas the space ships, hypersleet, avatar pods etc. look more like 150-200 years out.

That's really a nitpick. A real gripe of mine would be the ferngully storylines.

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A real gripe of mine would be the ferngully storylines.

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100% agree, although I've typically referred to these as Dances With Wolves in space.