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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

I still really enjoy going to the movies. Drafthouse has a good member deal where 2 movies or more a month pay for itself, and there are the benefits of no ads, good food and a full bar, and a strict no disruption policy. I hope producers adjust their costs and thrive again.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Andor was so very good that I honestly forgot that kiss.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Also didn't feel forced in Andor. It felt like it was just part of the whole and had real emotional impact.

Conversely, something like the all girl fight team in Endgame was eye rollingly bad. Totally shoe horned in for a political statement.

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And that goes back to something on this topic I've said before, that the issue is generally with the talent of the creator and not the content.

A show like Andor with its cast and themes is pretty much "woke" by definition (and I'm sure if I googled I'd find that someone complained about it). But because it was an insanely good show it gets a pass.

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Lol at pointing to total revenue as your point on the health of an industry. It's like my liberal father always talking up California by pointing out GDP. That tells us nothing about how much actual profit is being taken in. On top of that, it doesn't take into account inflation at all.

But let's just point to the stats we like, because it paints a better picture that I feel more comfortable with.

There are very few movies released that I actually care to see. Hell, the movie that's killing it on views is Kpop demon hunters, which did very well in theaters with their Sing a long version. The actual version is still #2 on Netflix and the sing along version is #7. There is still an audience out there for good stories and fresh visions. Also... guess what? No woke or preachiness. It's amazing how well movies that don't preach woke politics do so well...

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The Dead Internet Theory seems more and more real everyday…

I don't see many commercials, so I get that some people would miss some movies coming out. Although, if you frequent this board, I don't see how you could be completely ignorant of what is coming out. TC maintains a thread with upcoming movies and trailers and does a good job of creating threads for most movies.

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This is a classic F16 tactic. Oh, you're presenting a dataset that is the best way to track and judge something? Lol, only an idiot would believe those numbers!

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Depends on the dataset and who is presenting it.

Lol. Literally Google top movies 2025, scroll through, and make a list. This isn't hard.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Also didn't feel forced in Andor. It felt like it was just part of the whole and had real emotional impact.

Conversely, something like the all girl fight team in Endgame was eye rollingly bad. Totally shoe horned in for a political statement.

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What political statement was Endgame actually trying to make? Sure, it was eye rolling, but it was total fan service.

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Black Widow died.

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And Thanos

How come people are mad about a kiss between a character nobody knows her name and a woman with an intentionally very short haircut to look like a dude, but eveybody is cool with Charlie from Drive Cast slurping it up with a slug?

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I don't see many commercials, so I get that some people would miss some movies coming out. Although, if you frequent this board, I don't see how you could be completely ignorant of what is coming out. TC maintains a thread with upcoming movies and trailers and does a good job of creating threads for most movies.

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There are lots of threads to read across multiple boards. I rarely visit that one.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Also didn't feel forced in Andor. It felt like it was just part of the whole and had real emotional impact.

Conversely, something like the all girl fight team in Endgame was eye rollingly bad. Totally shoe horned in for a political statement.

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What political statement was Endgame actually trying to make? Sure, it was eye rolling, but it was total fan service.

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It was a blatantly contrived girl power scene that didn't feel natural within the movie unlike the Andor story line.

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So fan service.

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Woke content and deliberate to the point of insane race swapping is in there somewhere. Rank where you see fit.

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The only people *****ing about "woke" at this point are conservatives who have built their identity around being "anti-woke." It's pathetic.

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Or perhaps they're pissed about the intrusion of politics into entertainment. The theater was once a place where, largely, one could go to get away from whatever real crap is going on in the world. Even for only a couple of hours. But now, you step into a theater and you still see this crap. That is what is pathetic.

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You… you think that's new?

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It is not new but what is new is the frequency of this in a wide range of movies. Expect it in a movie like The Crying Game, but not in some animated kid's movie or Star Wars.

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Star Wars was intended in part as an allegory on Vietnam.

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That isn't woke. But a woman kissing another woman is.

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So, Andor?

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Was thinking more of The Rise of Skywalker

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I figured, but Andor had a similar scene with two much more major characters but doesn't get called "woke".

And that's why many of us roll our eyes at the word.

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Also didn't feel forced in Andor. It felt like it was just part of the whole and had real emotional impact.

Conversely, something like the all girl fight team in Endgame was eye rollingly bad. Totally shoe horned in for a political statement.

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What political statement was Endgame actually trying to make? Sure, it was eye rolling, but it was total fan service.

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It was a blatantly contrived girl power scene that didn't feel natural within the movie unlike the Andor story line.

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So fan service.

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I guess if that's what you want to call it.

And Star Wars memes. I share those.


But I rarely visit the thread about movies coming out.

From my seat, Hollywood just doesn't have many A list producers or actors anymore. Where is the action genre like Rambo and Die Hard, or the sport dramas of Rocky or the emotional drama like Scent of a Woman or Driving Miss Daisy? I keep being told that there are all these unbelievable awesome movies out but I try to watch them and my eyes just say they are nowhere in the stratosphere of past masterpieces. Top Gun and F1 were trend breakers. Watched both of those and got so excited of feeling back in the 80s/90s that I went back and watched each one multiple times. No other movies are drawing me to them. Weird. I want to like all the new stuff. I love going to the theater. I don't get bogged down on politics though I understand why others do. I'm fortunate in that cost is not a deterrent. Hollywood just isn't making good movies for my taste. They are making movies they want to make and trying to convince me that I should like it.

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Definitely a mix of people tired of so many lackluster soulless cash-grab reboots, lack of relatable stars with broad appeal, too much woke messaging, high ticket prices on top of cost of living in general being ****ed, and poor theater etiquette making people who hate distractions never want to go back again. People also like to support companies/makers/industries they imagine kind of appreciate them, and anyone right of center knows that these studios, these actors, these executives utterly despise us, so we have better things to spend our time/money on.

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I've lived in LA/worked in this industry for 20 years and have never once met someone who meets this description or has expressed this sentiment. Are there some loud, far-left, self-important "creatives"/lunatics who feel this way? Sure. Otherwise, this is such drama queen, looking-to-be-offended nonsense that makes it apparent you've never interacted with the people you actually despise just as much as you claim they "utterly despise" you.