Macarthur said:President Trump, Jan 20: “I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America. Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents.” pic.twitter.com/S990o9Mcsy
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 18, 2025
Macarthur said:
The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.
Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.
cajunaggie08 said:Lathspell said:
I think you are also missing my point. I NEVER equated "mainstream" with "prominent voices". That was the other poster gaslighting or trying to move the goal posts on the argument.
My ENTIRE point was the scary thing about all of this is the amount of this disgusting rhetoric coming from so many "normal" lefties. The people I deal with during my daily life. I'm not worried about Olbermann going postal with a rifle. Are you telling me that, when I see registered nurses on various platforms celebrating the death of a husband and father because he held Christian beliefs, I shouldn't be concerned about being treated in the hospital by someone like that? God forbid she walks into the room while I'm talking to a family member about current events.
I consider "mainstream" to be synonymous with "a large sampling size" of a group. I'm also not trying to make a statistical statement by saying X% need to support a certain idea for it to be in the mainstream, therefore I will tally up the exact number of every person in the world on the left and then divide by the exact quantity of posts on social media to equate to exactly 50% or higher. I'll admit this is all anecdotal, but it's anecdotal from EVERYONE i've heard talk about this on both the left and the right.
But, alas. We are back to the point that the left will never concede this point, no matter how much evidence I were to provided.
Considering they all took a Hippocratic oath, I don't think the nurses are going to deny you treatment even if you have trump tattooed on your ass.
Macarthur said:President Trump, Jan 20: “I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America. Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents.” pic.twitter.com/S990o9Mcsy
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 18, 2025
Hey @RollingStone this you? pic.twitter.com/E6ui0xnkoE
— Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) September 18, 2025
My gut reaction of the Kimmel suspension was dead wrong. After I learned about how the purview of the FCC and their hypocrisy, plus the $6.2 billion Nexstar merger, it’s pretty clear there is a lot of corruption and collusion going on. Big business + big govt, it’s fucked pic.twitter.com/eycJYfpoSM
— KFC (@KFCBarstool) September 18, 2025
The Left pic.twitter.com/Wtq66p25s8
— what.i.meme.to.say (@whatimemetosay) September 18, 2025
TCTTS said:
We already covered this earlier in the thread.
So *some* government censorship is okay as long it's not *full* government censorship. Got it. You're essentially arguing that it's okay for the government to threaten free speech in certain instances, as long as they're not threatening all instances.
Please tell me you understand how stupid this sounds.
Cliff.Booth said:
Hilarious that Jimmy Kimmel being fired is the first time you've been concerned about big business + big government collusion.
Ag87H2O said:TCTTS said:
We already covered this earlier in the thread.
So *some* government censorship is okay as long it's not *full* government censorship. Got it. You're essentially arguing that it's okay for the government to threaten free speech in certain instances, as long as they're not threatening all instances.
Please tell me you understand how stupid this sounds.
I'll say this and then I'm done here. The FCC didn't fire Kimmel. They didn't censor Kimmel. ABC wasn't coerced by the FCC. ABC chose to cancel his show after the local affiliate chains told them they were choosing to stop broadcasting his vitriol based on the public's response to Kimmel's own free speech from his program.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything you want without consequence. Kimmel can still go say whatever he wants, just not on that particular platform. He 100% brought it on himself.
ABC wasn't coerced…but as we've covered multiple times two of their biggest distributors who need upcoming FCC approval sure did some coercing (which I believe is also covered in the Barstool tweet mentioned earlier).Ag87H2O said:TCTTS said:
We already covered this earlier in the thread.
So *some* government censorship is okay as long it's not *full* government censorship. Got it. You're essentially arguing that it's okay for the government to threaten free speech in certain instances, as long as they're not threatening all instances.
Please tell me you understand how stupid this sounds.
I'll say this and then I'm done here. The FCC didn't fire Kimmel. They didn't censor Kimmel. ABC wasn't coerced by the FCC. ABC chose to cancel his show after the local affiliate chains told them they were choosing to stop broadcasting his vitriol based on the public's response to Kimmel's own free speech from his program.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything you want without consequence. Kimmel can still go say whatever he wants, just not on that particular platform. He 100% brought it on himself.
Democrats, the party of speech codes & censorship pic.twitter.com/HGXPtPuwup
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) September 18, 2025
President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested that the federal government might revoke the licenses of broadcast television networks that are “against me.” https://t.co/tp7ey7gJ38 pic.twitter.com/eEw4aOgrJq
— CNBC (@CNBC) September 18, 2025
BREAKING:
— ADAM (@AdameMedia) September 18, 2025
Tucker Carlson accuses Trump of using Charlie Kirk's murder to revoke the 1st Amendment:
"If they can tell you what to say, and they're telling you what to think, there is nothing they can't do to you."
So many people need to hear this 👏🏼
pic.twitter.com/Oxr4kNEjzd
They are pretending like this didn’t happen…
— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) September 18, 2025
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cajunaggie08 said:Lathspell said:
I think you are also missing my point. I NEVER equated "mainstream" with "prominent voices". That was the other poster gaslighting or trying to move the goal posts on the argument.
My ENTIRE point was the scary thing about all of this is the amount of this disgusting rhetoric coming from so many "normal" lefties. The people I deal with during my daily life. I'm not worried about Olbermann going postal with a rifle. Are you telling me that, when I see registered nurses on various platforms celebrating the death of a husband and father because he held Christian beliefs, I shouldn't be concerned about being treated in the hospital by someone like that? God forbid she walks into the room while I'm talking to a family member about current events.
I consider "mainstream" to be synonymous with "a large sampling size" of a group. I'm also not trying to make a statistical statement by saying X% need to support a certain idea for it to be in the mainstream, therefore I will tally up the exact number of every person in the world on the left and then divide by the exact quantity of posts on social media to equate to exactly 50% or higher. I'll admit this is all anecdotal, but it's anecdotal from EVERYONE i've heard talk about this on both the left and the right.
But, alas. We are back to the point that the left will never concede this point, no matter how much evidence I were to provided.
Considering they all took a Hippocratic oath, I don't think the nurses are going to deny you treatment even if you have trump tattooed on your ass.
TCTTS said:
Totally normal, nothing to see here.
Even though what Trump is suggesting is literal fascism, we can't call him a fascist because that apparently leads directly to impressionable college dip****s assassinating people. We can only grin and bear it from here on out!
TCTTS said:
Make whatever technical distinguishments you want, but silencing the media is a definitive and historical sign of fascism, full stop, and this would be exactly that.
TCTTS said:
Make whatever technical distinguishments you want, but silencing the media is a definitive and historical sign of fascism, full stop, and this would be exactly that.
TCTTS said:
Can you not read? Because I was CLEARLY talking about the article I linked to in which Trump today publicly pondered revoking the broadcast licenses of those who are "against him." THAT's the scenario I was referring to. Not Kimmel.
