fig96 said:
Now again, can that go too far? Sure, if they prioritize politicizing above story that rarely works. But take something like Blue Eye Samurai. It's by any definition extremely "woke", centered around themes of gender roles, sexuality, and race. But it's executed exceptionally well and pretty universally praised.
If a less skilled creator tried to do the same thing, they might fail miserably. But that doesn't mean their goals were any different.
Lathspell said:fig96 said:
Now again, can that go too far? Sure, if they prioritize politicizing above story that rarely works. But take something like Blue Eye Samurai. It's by any definition extremely "woke", centered around themes of gender roles, sexuality, and race. But it's executed exceptionally well and pretty universally praised.
If a less skilled creator tried to do the same thing, they might fail miserably. But that doesn't mean their goals were any different.
And I think this statement shows that you and I dont agree on what "woke" is. By no definition would I call Blue Eye Samurai "woke". She's not a Mary Sue. Everything about her character feels earned, through careful storytelling and character building. She's incredibly flawed but multifaceted and a fully fleshed out character.
This statement is what many on the left project onto us. It's why every crazy actress these days starts posting preemptive crap about audiences rejecting their movie. The vast majority of people complaining about woke and DEI have NEVER been against stories about women. Most of us LOVE the character of Ripley, or The Bride, and many other strong female characters. We dont believe having a female or black lead makes a movie "woke". We also arent against stories about gay characters. I love The Birdcage and Green Book.
Honestly, this statement of your's shows a glaring misunderstanding as to what woke is.
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Backyard Gator said:
We didn't even learn he was gay until deep into season 2 (I think?) when he wakes up in bed with a man.
The difference between this and 'woke' shows that shove 'inclusion' down your throat is in a woke show, you find out he's gay because there will be a full-frontal scene of gay sex early on in the show.
God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
Cliff.Booth said:
It was perceived as "this guy is committing social seppeku on live TV". If you want to sit at the cool kids table in the Hollywood cafeteria, you will conform. I think it's why it's such a hard pillow to swallow that the things that get you social credit boosts in LA also lose your studio $100 million dollars at the box office.
Sooper Jeenyus said:God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.
Cliff.Booth said:
It was perceived as "this guy is committing social seppeku on live TV". If you want to sit at the cool kids table in the Hollywood cafeteria, you will conform. I think it's why it's such a hard pillow to swallow that the things that get you social credit boosts in LA also lose your studio $100 million dollars at the box office.
schmendeler said:Sooper Jeenyus said:God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.
I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.
1981 Monte Carlo said:schmendeler said:Sooper Jeenyus said:God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.
I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.
He went off that last time though in a manner I had never seen him do before if I remember correctly. Wasn't just a couple of little jabs. It clearly was different as it went pretty viral. Also, has been invited back since?
schmendeler said:1981 Monte Carlo said:schmendeler said:Sooper Jeenyus said:God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.
I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.
He went off that last time though in a manner I had never seen him do before if I remember correctly. Wasn't just a couple of little jabs. It clearly was different as it went pretty viral. Also, has been invited back since?
He said he it was his last time he would host during his opener in 2020. Not sure if they tried to get him back despite that.
DannyDuberstein said:
85 inch tv and no heavy breathing fat ahole near me digging into his bag of skittles like he's looking for the golden skittle at the bottom of the bag is why my theater experience is limited to 2-3 per year. I turn out for the greats I can't wait for (not many of these in a year) or those that should be a visual spectacle on the big screen.
schmendeler said:1981 Monte Carlo said:schmendeler said:Sooper Jeenyus said:maroon barchetta said:
The best awards show opening ever, Ricky Gervais, who is in the entertainment industry, calling out Hollywood for being woke hypocrites.
Yeah, it's a comedy bit. Like every comedy bit, there are strands of truth in the joke. Sometimes really big strands.
God, that is SO good. How was it perceived by "Hollywood" I wonder. You see a lot of smug faces in the crowd but also hear a lot of laughs/cheers.
Guessing most of them take themselves too seriously to realize.
I mean they had him host five times and he made similar style jokes each time. Clearly it wasn't that outrageous.
He went off that last time though in a manner I had never seen him do before if I remember correctly. Wasn't just a couple of little jabs. It clearly was different as it went pretty viral. Also, has been invited back since?
He said he it was his last time he would host during his opener in 2020. Not sure if they tried to get him back despite that.
Milwaukees Best Light said:DannyDuberstein said:
85 inch tv and no heavy breathing fat ahole near me digging into his bag of skittles like he's looking for the golden skittle at the bottom of the bag is why my theater experience is limited to 2-3 per year. I turn out for the greats I can't wait for (not many of these in a year) or those that should be a visual spectacle on the big screen.
Went to Mario Galaxy today. Holy crap it was loud. Like uncomfortably loud. I think I might be joining team stream at home. Bad experience and really effin expensive.
The Ex Officio Director said:
As a leo, Southland is probably the most modern day depiction of cops on the street. The day today struggles of work, private life and personal demons. Barney Miller show for us old heads, on the verge of retirement or who threaten to retire yet never do.
