Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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4:50p, 7/18/25
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Is this why Susan Rice wrote herself the Obama told her to do stuff memo right before the end of that administration?
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 4:57p, 7/18/25
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MouthBQ98 said:
Is this why Susan Rice wrote herself the Obama told her to do stuff memo right before the end of that administration?

Yes, "by the book" for a false investigation. Not sure which book contains those instructions.
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5:08p, 7/18/25
From the Hindustan Times
Obama to face treason charges over Russia collusion 'hoax'? Tulsi Gabbard drops bombshell
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  • Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, in a newly declassified report on Friday, alleged that several Obama administration officials 'manipulated and withheld' key intelligence related to the possibility of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Has ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, Washington PastPost, MSNBC reported on this, my internet skills are subpar.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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In reply to richardag • 5:21p, 7/18/25
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richardag said:
From the Hindustan Times
Obama to face treason charges over Russia collusion 'hoax'? Tulsi Gabbard drops bombshell
quote from the article
  • Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, in a newly declassified report on Friday, alleged that several Obama administration officials 'manipulated and withheld' key intelligence related to the possibility of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Has ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, Washington PastPost, MSNBC reported on this, my internet skills are subpar.

They're still celebrating the Pulitzer for reporting on the lie.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 5:30p, 7/18/25
MouthBQ98 said:
Is this why Susan Rice wrote herself the Obama told her to do stuff memo right before the end of that administration?



It’s never too late
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:09p, 7/18/25
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aggiehawg said:
MouthBQ98 said:
Is this why Susan Rice wrote herself the Obama told her to do stuff memo right before the end of that administration?

Yes, "by the book" for a false investigation. Not sure which book contains those instructions.


lol, yep. As was discussed at the time, if you write a memo like that to the file, you're trying to cover-up the fact you aren't going by the book.
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In reply to richardag • 6:11p, 7/18/25
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richardag said:
From the Hindustan Times
Obama to face treason charges over Russia collusion 'hoax'? Tulsi Gabbard drops bombshell
quote from the article
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[li]Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, in a newly declassified report on Friday, alleged that several Obama administration officials 'manipulated and withheld' key intelligence related to the possibility of Russian interference in the 2016 election.[/li]
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Has ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, Washington PastPost, MSNBC reported on this, my internet skills are subpar.


Obama engaged in more treasonous crime than Benedict Arnold, Richard Hansen, Aldrich Ames, Beau Bergdahl combined.

Congrats Dems.

Unfortunately, DJT came along and ruined things for you. No wonder you tried to impeach (and convict) him, tried to arrest him, then tried to kill him and are now trying to label him a pedo.
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In reply to Zapata23 • 7:04p, 7/18/25
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
MouthBQ98 said:
Is this why Susan Rice wrote herself the Obama told her to do stuff memo right before the end of that administration?



Suddenly Obama, and all Democrats, are screaming "Presidential Immunity, Presidential Immunity! These were official acts, definitely not weaponizing government against your enemies for your own gain! Nothing to see here!!!"
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In reply to RulesForTheeNotForMe • 7:17p, 7/18/25
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There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 7:25p, 7/18/25
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flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.


Watergate happened at a time when the main body of citizenry in this country still believed in the honesty of our government and holding people accountable. The same corrupt MSM did what they have been doing for the last 60 years but was long ago where we believed their BS. Today Watergate would be a 48 hour story and nothing would happen.
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8:55p, 7/18/25
Nothing but Treason is applicable unless there is some recent furtherance.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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9:24p, 7/18/25
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Gabbard being at the helm of this is setting up for some pretty sweet poetic justice
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to will25u • 8:45a, 7/19/25
will25u said:
Nothing but Treason is applicable unless there is some recent furtherance.




Brennan to this day continues to make claims that Trump's a Russian asset so SoL is likely not an issue for him and when you rap it in the conspiracy cloak everyone involved is in play
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12:42p, 7/19/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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12:43p, 7/19/25
Torch those mother****ers!
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12:57p, 7/19/25
Nothing would please me more than a ballsack being dragged across Brennan's face.
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In reply to AgDotCom • 1:10p, 7/19/25
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AgDotCom said:
Nothing would please me more than a ballsack being dragged across Brennan's face.

He might enjoy that too much.
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In reply to AgDotCom • 1:24p, 7/19/25
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Nothing would please me more than a ballsack being dragged across Brennan's face.


I'm sure that old queen would agree
It’s never too late
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:29p, 7/19/25
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flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.

I don't think you can impeach someone that is not the POTUS, even if they were the POTUS in the past.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 1:50p, 7/19/25
Ag with kids said:
flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.

I don't think you can impeach someone that is not the POTUS, even if they were the POTUS in the past.



Actually you can. They impeached Trump after he was out of office. Just didn't have the votes in the Senate.
It’s never too late
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In reply to Zapata23 • 1:58p, 7/19/25
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Ag with kids said:
flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.

I don't think you can impeach someone that is not the POTUS, even if they were the POTUS in the past.



Actually you can. They impeached Trump after he was out of office. Just didn't have the votes in the Senate.

The trial started while he was POTUS, fwiw.

I'd bet if he'd taken it to court, the SCOTUS would have ruled that the impeachment proceedings should have ended at 1200 EST on 1/20/2021.

But, the only punishment that being impeached and convicted would have been that he could not be POTUS again (which was why they did it).

Obama cannot be POTUS again, nor can he be removed from office. There are ZERO penalties that could result from an impeachment.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 2:08p, 7/19/25
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Obama cannot be POTUS again, nor can he be removed from office. There are ZERO penalties that could result from an impeachment.


Perhaps legally…but Barry needs humiliation as part of the official record.
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Obama cannot be POTUS again, nor can he be removed from office. There are ZERO penalties that could result from an impeachment.


Perhaps legally…but Barry needs humiliation as part of the official record.

Well, **** YEAH he does.

He was a slimy POS.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 2:30p, 7/19/25
Ag with kids said:
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Ag with kids said:
flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.

I don't think you can impeach someone that is not the POTUS, even if they were the POTUS in the past.



Actually you can. They impeached Trump after he was out of office. Just didn't have the votes in the Senate.

The trial started while he was POTUS, fwiw.

I'd bet if he'd taken it to court, the SCOTUS would have ruled that the impeachment proceedings should have ended at 1200 EST on 1/20/2021.

But, the only punishment that being impeached and convicted would have been that he could not be POTUS again (which was why they did it).

Obama cannot be POTUS again, nor can he be removed from office. There are ZERO penalties that could result from an impeachment.


Actually, if Obama is impeached, he loses his lifetime pension all of his benefits and his protection, and all the money they blow on that family, the entire family loses their Secret Service protection and everything
It’s never too late
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2:37p, 7/19/25
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The conspiracy charges are going to happen, I am starting to think.


There is a lot of fame and fortune to be made for lawyers who help bring this to fruition/conviction, imho. there are some obvious folks to start bringing heat on, but Danchenko is not a terrible first pick (nor is Nellie or Bruce Ohr).
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But .... (all caps)

IF THE PURPOSE OF THE CONSPIRACY WAS TO KEEP TRUMP FROM OFFICE, AND THAT CONSPIRATORIAL PURPOSE REMAINED THROUGHOUT THE LAST 8 YEARS IN ONE FASHION OR ANOTHER, THEN ACTS TAKEN FOR THAT PURPOSE WITHIN THE PAST 5 YEARS -- EVEN LAWFUL ACTS -- MAY HAVE KEPT THE CONSPIRACY ACTIVE AND SUBJECT TO PROSECUTION.

The key is to prove that the original conspiracy was unlawful.

A conspiracy to kneecap a candidate with a political dirty trick is not necessarily illegal.

That's why you do the investigation.

That's the legal hook, apparently.
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Can that include the documents case to get a possible trial location in Florida?
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Can that include the documents case to get a possible trial location in Florida?

To be honest, I am not sure. This is still too amorphous to do much analysis. Who would be the included defendants? What is the nexus between their acts, when and where did they take place? Those are the basic questions for jurisdiction.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:29p, 7/19/25
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aggiehawg said:
SwigAg11 said:
Can that include the documents case to get a possible trial location in Florida?

To be honest, I am not sure. This is still too amorphous to do much analysis. Who would be the included defendants? What is the nexus between their acts, when and where did they take place? Those are the basic questions for jurisdiction.



Solomon thinks the raid on Mar-a-Lago could be an act in the conspiracy, which would make venue possible in Florida.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Ag with kids said:
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
Ag with kids said:
flown-the-coop said:
There is a heavy presumption of immunity to deal with here. The ONLY way around that is to impeach Obama, convict, then send him over to the DOJ as a regular sentencing. This is the intention of the impeachment clause. It is the only mechanism explicitly provided for in the Constitution to hold POTUS accountable outside of elections or their resignation. Nixon avoided Options A and B to go with C.

I don't think you can impeach someone that is not the POTUS, even if they were the POTUS in the past.



Actually you can. They impeached Trump after he was out of office. Just didn't have the votes in the Senate.

The trial started while he was POTUS, fwiw.

I'd bet if he'd taken it to court, the SCOTUS would have ruled that the impeachment proceedings should have ended at 1200 EST on 1/20/2021.

But, the only punishment that being impeached and convicted would have been that he could not be POTUS again (which was why they did it).

Obama cannot be POTUS again, nor can he be removed from office. There are ZERO penalties that could result from an impeachment.


Actually, if Obama is impeached, he loses his lifetime pension all of his benefits and his protection, and all the money they blow on that family, the entire family loses their Secret Service protection and everything

Is that codified in legislation?

Because it's not in the Constitution as one of the penalties for impeachment.

And if it were codified, would that actually be constitutional?

I mean, if it was, then Congress could legislate that one of the punishments be weekly wedgies for life. (Not that I would be opposed to that).
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In reply to Ag with kids • 4:35p, 7/19/25
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The trial started while he was POTUS, fwiw.


Second trial started after Biden was sworn in

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I'd bet if he'd taken it to court, the SCOTUS would have ruled that the impeachment proceedings should have ended at 1200 EST on 1/20/2021.


I bet they wouldn't. They would say it's a political question and not get involved.
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Solomon thinks the raid on Mar-a-Lago could be an act in the conspiracy, which would make venue possible in Florida.

That could be one case. That is what I am wondering. How many distinct yet still connected cases are there?

Is this a RICO case? Do some defendants be in discrete cases? (Think about how ultimately unwieldly the Fanni Willis RICO cases were that caused them to implode. Also Maurene Comey's Diddy prosecution that imploded.)
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6:18p, 7/19/25
The last refuge stuff I have no clue if true or not.



"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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In reply to will25u • 7:09p, 7/19/25
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What is unique though vs. ordinarily proving such a crime (and I follow but have no idea who 'Publius' is, on X), is the sheer volume of players, and documentation over the past 9 years.

These weren't all 'professionals' with super-high IQ's who didn't reduce their thoughts and intentions to writing. The lovebirds text messages are just an example, not an exception. And then, we have all of the propagandists (ahem, journalists) they dealt with.

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