Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Zapata23
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All the right pigs are squealing
It’s never too late
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David Corn is a piece of **** and he's still lying. He's a Brennan mouthpiece.
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Interesting. First time I've thought of 'Russiagate' as a civil rights violation. Just fishing or does he have a DOJ source?

DOJ LINK
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will25u said:




Interesting question. At the very least they should get their $2M back. Doubt there is any recourse against the judge. And time to refile the suit!?
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it would be an interesting question if true. stone isn't exactly an honest person. if you look at the order on the sanctions, the conduct by habba went well beyond what has been uncovered in the declassified documents.

for example, they didn't even make any arguments on why several of the claims should not be dismissed:


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The Plaintiff does not even attempt to respond with respect to most of the legal failings of his claims. To reiterate a few:

The malicious prosecution claim without a prosecution;

The theory of personal jurisdiction based on an allegation that defendants "knew that Florida is a state in the United States which was an important one;"

The trade secret claim without a trade secret or ownership;

The Computer Fraud and Abuse claim foreclosed by Van Buren v United States, 141 S. Ct. 1648 (2021); and

Obstruction of justice untethered to any official proceeding.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.302.0.pdf

this is not to say that she should or should not have been sanctioned, but pointing out that Stone has no clue what the order said or what the claims even were, or how they remotely relate to the newly declassified documents.
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Thanks, appreciate the additional info on the situation.
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The theory of personal jurisdiction based on an allegation that defendants "knew that Florida is a state in the United States which was an important one;"


Wait, what? That's real??

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DoJ lies to protect Mueller: lies about Steele and Danchenko being credible still in 2018.
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CONTEXT FOR THIS LETTER IN JULY, 2018 Keep in mind, according to the recently declassified annex to the Durham report we know FBI leadership, Comey and McCabe, refused to allow FBI agents to interview Carter Page until the FISA was renewed (January) and the operation against Trump gained specific enough speed (March) to warrant a special counsel demand.

The FBI eventually interviewed Carter Page on March 9, 10, 16, 30 and 31, 2017. [The FISA was leaked by James Wolfe and Senator Mark Warner on March 17th. FBI Director James Comey then testified to congress admitting for the first time that President Trump was under investigation for Russiagate on March 20th.]

Despite the five interviews, the FBI renewed the FISA application against Carter Page on April 2nd, 2017. Despite the FISA application accusing Carter Page of being "an agent of a foreign government," Carter Page was never charged with any criminal conduct, including FARA violations.

Also, keep in mind this letter to the court was written by AAG John Demers in July 2018. Jeff Sessions was Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein was Deputy AG; Christopher Wray was FBI Director, David Bowditch is Deputy, and Dana Boente is FBI chief-legal-counsel.

Why would the DOJ-NSD not be forthcoming with the FISA court about the primary sub-source, Igor Danchenko and his admitted statements? This level of disingenuous withholding of information speaks to an institutional motive to frame Donald Trump. This institutional effort was ongoing in July 2018!

By July 2018 the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the FISA court, instead saying predicate was still valid. Why?

It doesn't take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive.
In July 2018 Robert Mueller's investigation was at its apex.

This letter justifying the application and claiming the current information would still be a valid predicate therein, speaks to the 2018 DOJ needing to retain the validity of the FISA warrant…. My researched suspicion around motive was the DOJ needed to protect evidence Mueller had already extracted from fraudulent FISA authority. That was the motive.

In July 2018 if the DOJ-NSD admitted the FISA application and all renewals where fatally flawed Robert Mueller would have needed to withdraw any evidence gathered as a result of its exploitation. The DOJ in 2018, under the leadership of Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein for all things Russiagate, was protecting Mueller's poisoned fruit.

If the DOJ had been honest with the court, there's a strong possibility some, perhaps much, of Mueller evidence gathering would have been invalidated… and cases were pending. The solution: mislead the court and claim the predication was still valid.

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The second statement, equally as incredulous, is at the bottom of page nine where the DOJ claims they had no idea Bruce Ohr was talking to the FBI throughout the entire time any of the FISA applications were being submitted. October 2016 through June 29, 2017.

In essence the claim there is that Bruce Ohr was working with the FBI and never told anyone in the DOJ throughout 2016 and all the way past June 29th of 2017. That denial is a lie. Once again, the DOJ-NSD is putting the FBI in the crosshairs and claiming they knew nothing about the information pipeline.

Bruce Ohr, whose wife Nellie Ohr was working for Fusion-GPS and assisting Christopher Steele with information, was interviewed by the FBI over a dozen times as he communicated with Steele and fed his information to the FBI. Yet the DOJ claims they knew nothing about it.

Again, just keep in mind this claim by the DOJ-NSD is being made in July 2018, six months after Bruce Ohr was demoted twice (December 2017 and January 2018) by the DOJ. The lie within the letter is clear by the action taken by the DOJ. If what the DOJ was saying is true, well, then the FBI was completely rogue and running an investigation outside the knowledge of the DOJ, while the source of the knowledge, Bruce Ohr, was the #4 ranking official within the DOJ.

Rambling as usual from CTH but it still pisses me off how dishonest these 'classified communications' with the court were, from the DoJ, and that Bruce and Nellie Ohr are living comfortable retirements to this day.
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Trump was way to naive and because he was not a politician didn't understand the politic game in Trump 1.0. Trump 2.0 has a plan and no f's given.

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Interesting thread.
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Nobu = Aras/Emin Agalarov
Spiritual Diplomacy = Mikhail Morgulis/Millian
Jody Kriss = Felix Sater

"Coincidentally" all 3 of these Nellie targets/research subjects end up sharing 3-4 things in common after appearing in her research: 1) all get hounded by Simpson bff @thamburger (part of the knowing conspiracy), 2) to the extent that all 3 are motivated to warn the Trump campaign about it, and 3) all 3 end up in Steele's memos/crosshairs, before being cited in Mueller report as part of Russia "Links & Contacts with Russia".

Hamburger is a longtime swine (see what I did there) around town:

It does tie together.
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As I recall, Don Jr. had a Russian rock star friend by the name of Agalarov. That guy was part of setting up the Trump Tower meeting with Veselnitskaya who was supposed to have dirt on Hillary as the pretext.
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aggiehawg said:

As I recall, Don Jr. had a Russian rock star friend by the name of Agalarov. That guy was part of setting up the Trump Tower meeting with Veselnitskaya who was supposed to have dirt on Hillary as the pretext.

But I believe that Don Jr set the meeting on the original predication for the meeting was about adoption of Russian children and quickly morphed into (we may have some interesting dirt on Hilldawg too".

Its clear now that all the information about these meetings, purpose and results was anything but clear.
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But I believe that Don Jr set the meeting on the original predication for the meeting was about adoption of Russian children and quickly morphed into (we may have some interesting dirt on Hilldawg too".

Its clear now that all the information about these meetings, purpose and results was anything but clear.



No the pretext was dirt on Hillary, which is why Kushner and Manafort were called in. But Veselnitskaya stared talking about Magnitsky Act and adoption issue so Manafort and Kushner got up and left.
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You are correct, the priorities were flipped. Claim to have dirt on Russia, proceeded to talk about adoption.
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I am starting to be convinced the Bush family is just as complicit as the Obamas, Clintons and Bidens in subverting democracy.

NONE of them were willing to ever give an outsider a chance to be POTUS. Why not? Because they knew if they couldn't corral him, control him, lock him up or kill him then one day their ongoing sins would be revealed.

Curse them all and water the tree. Its time.
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flown-the-coop said:

I am starting to be convinced the Bush family is just as complicit as the Obamas, Clintons and Bidens in subverting democracy.

They absolutely are. You think it's a coincidence that Bush Sr. was the head of the CIA?

Stay out tha Bushes.
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flown-the-coop said:

I am starting to be convinced the Bush family is just as complicit as the Obamas, Clintons and Bidens in subverting democracy.

NONE of them were willing to ever give an outsider a chance to be POTUS. Why not? Because they knew if they couldn't corral him, control him, lock him up or kill him then one day their ongoing sins would be revealed.

Curse them all and water the tree. Its time.

Absolutely, our "betters" will gladly set the table however they see fit. Will of the people be damned, they are wholly unbothered by any such sentiment.

They control the workings of the country club/govt, the elected officials are merely guest or at best probationary members

You heard Comey testify in congress his allegiance was to his institution the FBI

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Holder was on with Weller this mornings MTP episode.

She discussed his subpoena and brought up he is the first AG holding contempt of congress back in the day.

He said he defied that subpoena because it would have broke privilege between Obama executive and his DOJ. Then went on to say that Jeff Sessions release it later and it proved Holders point that he was protecting executive privilege with no acknowledgment or hint at the contents of the information, just the "character" of it.

He's sly and very carefully spoken, but that was a pretty transparent dodge. And then he went on to say it's ridiculous that Obama involved himself in trying to undermine Trump. Said there is ZERO evidence of it.

But again you could see him dancing and he is a heck of a poker player. My prediction is he will NOT testify to Congress or he will certainly invoke privilege even if it's the 5th he has to fall on.
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Was coming to post that. I think she's too old at this point to make a play and ActBlue is desperate right now with their money laundering (as well as/including the Clintons) under intense legal scrutiny, but it makes me wonder what they are up to. It's never, ever in America's interests of course.
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I think the Dems are on the receiving end of an all-nighter at a San Fran boathouse in the mid 80's who ran out of water two weeks ago.

It's long overdue.

Rs need to jettison the Rand Paul's, the Thomas Massies, the Nancy Maces, the Lindsey Queen Graham, and get down to make this Country about America and what it means to be an American.
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Zapata23
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Mollie Hemingway wrote about her finding out about the leakers in 2024

It’s never too late
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Jeebus, who writes "fingered schiff and swalwell". ****, just threw up my dinner.
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If this is the trickle then the flood may be worth the wait.

People need to not just go to jail, but be buried underneath it.
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I look forward to seeing Schiff's defense attorney respond to these allegations. My guess his tone will not include anymore "these baseless, already debunked allegations are blatantly political!" And will be much more like, "no comment"….

Take a seat pencil neck, your pardon better not cover you for these crimes.
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If they continued to commit the crimes past the date of the pardon then I think they may get around it.

Ol ***** neck should have kept his blow hole shut after Jan 20 and maybe he stays clean.

Probably worth pulling a copy of the pardon as I cannot recall how broad it was and the exact time period.
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flown-the-coop said:

If they continued to commit the crimes past the date of the pardon then I think they may get around it.

Ol ***** neck should have kept his blow hole shut after Jan 20 and maybe he stays clean.

Probably worth pulling a copy of the pardon as I cannot recall how broad it was and the exact time period.

My recollection is that the pardon was for members of the Jan 6th Committee. So would be limited to his actions on that committee?
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You are correct!

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offenses against the United States which they may have committed or taken part in arising from or in any manner related to the activities or subject matter of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol

The unSelect Committee was not formed until 2021, over 3 years after Schiff authorized the leaks in 2017.

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There are a lot of 'underlings' that can be pursued, to lead to the 'bigger fish.'

Well of course becoming CIA director was something that appealed to Schiff, a treasonous leaker of classified information who has long sought to manipulate his access to his political gain/the harm of his enemies (American politicians).

The FBI and CIA need massive changes, at the very least, and I don't see a movement to make it happen legislatively.
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