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I bet they nail the booster next launch. They are getting so close with this.
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I'm seeing some glowing occasionally out there even though it's the night side. I've seen that on the last couple of missions as well. It becomes more and more significant until it begins to look like it's plasma around the ship. Is it generating plasma at 194 km?
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Patriotism is no longer bad. Should never have been considered that by anyone.

Go SoaceX!

Team America, **** Yea!

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Man I wish there was video of that booster yard darting into the gulf.
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I was driving and couldn't really monitor close enough. Don't want to rewind while we are yeeting Starlink…. Did we get the soft landing of booster or did it kamikaze in the Gulf? I saw one booster Raptor out before meco and kinda lost track of booster after that.
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Crazy this is the first time it has flown, with everything being new.
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Boost back light was aborted. Went into the gulf pretty hot.
ErnestEndeavor
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It spun and crashed into the gulf. They attempted the relight burn to slow it down but it was doomed from the time of Separation when it tumbled briefly before regaining some semblance of control.
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Thanks yall.
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TexAgs91 said:

I'm seeing some glowing occasionally out there even though it's the night side. I've seen that on the last couple of missions as well. It becomes more and more significant until it begins to look like it's plasma around the ship. Is it generating plasma at 194 km?


No. The cryogenic tanks continually vent and they can potentially use that for some cold gas attitude control. Also saw some blue flashes on the external camera that are some type of combustion based RCS.
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Looks like they are rotating starship to give some views to the satellites. These are going to be amazing shots when they share them.
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Ah ok that makes more sense

Hope we get a shot of ship lit up from one side casting a shadow through the gas
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Mathguy64 said:

Well Booster relit but it had a terminal v of 1450 kph.


I wonder if they'll go back to four grid fins after this.
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OKCAg2002 said:

Looks like they are rotating starship to give some views to the satellites. These are going to be amazing shots when they share them.

And there it is
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OKCAg2002 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Well Booster relit but it had a terminal v of 1450 kph.


I wonder if they'll go back to four grid fins after this.
I don't thibk the grid fins had anything to do with the inability to relight the raptors and do a controlled boost back burn.
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Sweet video of dummy starlink with light and camera
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SpaceX gets 4K video off of fake starlinks coming out of starship.

NASA gets 480i video of a manned mission to the Moon.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

TexAgs91 said:

I'm seeing some glowing occasionally out there even though it's the night side. I've seen that on the last couple of missions as well. It becomes more and more significant until it begins to look like it's plasma around the ship. Is it generating plasma at 194 km?


No. The cryogenic tanks continually vent and they can potentially use that for some cold gas attitude control. Also saw some blue flashes on the external camera that are some type of combustion based RCS.


I was agreeing with you but now it's building up like the other flights. Seems like either a lot of venting or plasma. They're at 130 km now so if it's plasma I would expect it to increase.
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I'm not sure if it was inability to relight. I think they canceled the boost back burn on purpose due to the initial lack of control immediately after separation. They didn't want it boosting back toward land. This one was intended to land in the water all along but I don't think they wanted to risk of burn and have it end up off course.
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Mathguy64 said:

SpaceX gets 4K video off of fake starlinks coming out of starship.

NASA gets 480i video of a manned mission to the Moon.


NASA was relaying their video off the TDRSS (I may have that acronym wrong) system. It's not optimized for 4K video. They could not/cannot use starlink on lunar missions because
1) it's not installed
2) starlink is currently optimized to only look down at earth and 99% of the Artemis profile was above starlink.

They are looking at high bandwidth data transfer for Artemis 3 due to the need/want of high quality video for the docking tests.
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I think one lit for landing... But that wasn't going to do anything substantial and probably degraded attitude control.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

I'm not sure if it was inability to relight. I think they canceled the boost back burn on purpose due to the initial lack of control immediately after separation. They didn't want it boosting back toward land. This one was intended to land in the water all along but I don't think they wanted to risk of burn and have it end up off course.


They canceled the relight because they were not going fast enough/did not get high enough with the failure of the one sea level engine. The relight is a deorbit burn simulator

Also looks like they may not be in the landing zone for landing video. Based on the trajectory map they look way farther south than they have been for other flights
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TexAgs91 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

TexAgs91 said:

I'm seeing some glowing occasionally out there even though it's the night side. I've seen that on the last couple of missions as well. It becomes more and more significant until it begins to look like it's plasma around the ship. Is it generating plasma at 194 km?


No. The cryogenic tanks continually vent and they can potentially use that for some cold gas attitude control. Also saw some blue flashes on the external camera that are some type of combustion based RCS.


I was agreeing with you but now it's building up like the other flights. Seems like either a lot of venting or plasma. They're at 130 km now so if it's plasma I would expect it to increase.

Absolutely, at the time of my reply I think they were substantially above atmosphere. When you replied, that's definitely plasma and they're down to 71 km as of this post
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Reentry has begun
ErnestEndeavor
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I was talking about the booster. I stepped away so I haven't really been following the ship.
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Fightin_Aggie said:

ErnestEndeavor said:

I'm not sure if it was inability to relight. I think they canceled the boost back burn on purpose due to the initial lack of control immediately after separation. They didn't want it boosting back toward land. This one was intended to land in the water all along but I don't think they wanted to risk of burn and have it end up off course.


They canceled the relight because they were not going fast enough/did not get high enough with the failure of the one sea level engine. The relight is a deorbit burn simulator

Also looks like they may not be in the landing zone for landing video. Based on the trajectory map they look way farther south than they have been for other flights


This flight started further south, heading south of Cuba rather than between Cuba and the Keys

My guess the in space relight might have been a fear of RUD. They said they will still do landing burn with the three sea level raptor
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Words of encouragement
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Seeing these tiles undergo reentry in hd is something else…
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Looks like there might have been a little burn through on the aft port flap hinge
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Starship is on target?!
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That one tile, above that protrusion...
I wonder if that was a test tile that has lost it's outer layer
ErnestEndeavor
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Only caught the end of it but that seemed to be the least dramatic reentry out of all so far.
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And the buoy cam!
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Actually flying it! Like a pseudo HAC!
ErnestEndeavor
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That was a cool view of the underneath side before it exploded.
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