First Black 4 star General Marine.

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Love Gun
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

I'm friends with air force general who knows this guy and also went to school with him. He says this Marine general is an impressive leader and well deserving.

Not disagreeing with that, but his chest decor says a lot about where he's been or what he's done - or hasn't done.
Bronco71
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Love Gun said:

Fightin TX Aggie said:

I'm friends with air force general who knows this guy and also went to school with him. He says this Marine general is an impressive leader and well deserving.

Not disagreeing with that, but his chest decor says a lot about where he's been or what he's done - or hasn't done.
A person's "ribbon rack" also says a whole lot about what their boss (or bosses) thinks about them.

Personal decorations (anything other than service ribbons) all begin with someone recommending you for an award. If nobody does, it's either because they don't think you deserve it, or (more commonly) because they are too lazy to take the time to write up the award recommendation.

I do get your point about having or not having a combat action ribbon, though.

In the army, we were a lot less subtle about combat experience. You either wore a patch on your right sleeve (of the unit you served with in combat), or your right sleeve was bare (signifying that you have not served in combat).
I have tried to look at things from your point of view, but I can never get my head that far up my [rear end].
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Love Gun
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Bronco71 said:

Love Gun said:

Fightin TX Aggie said:

I'm friends with air force general who knows this guy and also went to school with him. He says this Marine general is an impressive leader and well deserving.

Not disagreeing with that, but his chest decor says a lot about where he's been or what he's done - or hasn't done.
A person's "ribbon rack" also says a whole lot about what their boss (or bosses) thinks about them.

Personal decorations (anything other than service ribbons) all begin with someone recommending you for an award. If nobody does, it's either because they don't think you deserve it, or (more commonly) because they are too lazy to take the time to write up the award recommendation.

I do get your point about having or not having a combat action ribbon, though.

In the army, we were a lot less subtle about combat experience. You either wore a patch on your right sleeve (of the unit you served with in combat), or your right sleeve was bare (signifying that you have not served in combat).


Not sure what kind of drivel all this is because I didn't read it all. For us, however, ribbons (awards) came down to three categories - Personal, Service and unit. The ones you're referring to are personal awards. Everything else comes with the territory.
Love Gun
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For fun, I was the intel chief for an east coast MEU in 2007. After it became clear that this was an officer promotion float, we adopted this song, and played it in the SCIF everyday

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Love Gun said:

JABQ04 said:

Im just waiting for some of y'all to slap down a pic of your ribbon rack.

Cool. Here you go. I'm not ashamed of anything I did or didn't do.





That's a great stack. No one knows what their path will be, you just have to do your best with what comes. Thats partly why I'm against picking apart a lack of such and such ribbons. The other four star listed here seems like a really impressive dude and his ribbons reflect that. However he could have easily wound up with ribbons like the Marine in the OP if fate went that way. Or he could have been out as a captain or major or any other rank on the way to almost the very top
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Love Gun said:

JABQ04 said:

Im just waiting for some of y'all to slap down a pic of your ribbon rack.

Cool. Here you go. I'm not ashamed of anything I did or didn't do.



Thank you for your service-- and a small take away from this is if Lovegun is shooting at you with his pistol, you're probably fooked.
Get Off My Lawn
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JABQ04 said:

Im just waiting for some of y'all to slap down a pic of your ribbon rack.

I was enlisted army. I didn't GAF how generals shot or qualified on their weapons. If a senior officer is picking up a rifle and firing back then things have gone horribly wrong.

I see two Afghan deployments on his rack. Anybody that knows (at least for the army) CABs and CIBs are given out like candy, just as someone earlier said the Bronze Star is a participation award unless it has the little V on it
You confuse me: in one post saying you don't care about the qual, and the next note that Redlegs get sourced as auxiliary infantry when our tubes aren't needed.

Since officers discontinue rifle qual once they pin O-4, that means this Marine locked his in as a company grade Artilleryman.

I also think there are some who underestimate the sense of competition in the Corps, the value of the rifle within Combat Arms MOSs, and how enjoyable it is to perfect the craft.
 
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