fka ftc said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Rural America loves Donald Trump.

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Why?

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Rural cares about getting **** done and not decorum understanding you cannot always play nice and sometimes have to ruffle a feather or shoot a rabid dog.

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I think his question was more asking why anyone would "love" a politician, which is sad and weird.

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Some people seem to understand the human language and its nuances. If I say "I love me some Trump", I am not in love with Trump but am simply commenting I enjoy and support him on certain things.

If I say "I love my wife and child with every ounce of my being", I am being quite literal and expressing an admiration, devotion and caring beyond measure.

Example A is absolutely normal behavior.

Example B applied to a politician, celebrity, etc is sad, weird and likely a sign of mental illness.

That said, it is sad and weird as well that people need to have this explained to them.

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If you think the strange adoration some people have for a lifelong conman is normal I'm not sure what to tell you. It's no different than the Obama love from the left and just as sad. There is a big difference between what you are talking about and the people who go to his rallies or talk about how much they love him, etc., but you know that.

I mean, there are even some people who spend hours every week justifying and defending every move he makes on a college football message board and sometimes compare him to Jesus

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If you think the strange adoration some people have for a lifelong conman is normal I'm not sure what to tell you. It's no different than the Obama love from the left and just as sad. There is a big difference between what you are talking about and the people who go to his rallies or talk about how much they love him, etc., but you know that.

I mean, there are even some people who spend hours every week justifying and defending every move he makes and sometimes compare him to Jesus

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People hate on the Jesus comparison but regarding political persecution it is on point.

Heck, when you consider how every action of his life for the past 40 years has been investigated, litigated, attacked, condemned by everyone from politicians, MSM, courts, corrupt DAs, corrupt judges, weaponized DOJ, fraudulent FBI, complicit IRS and the only thing they come up with are the laughably baseless accusations including the videos regard Jan 6th interviews. I am thinking the Jesus comparison may be even more apt.

Attending a rally shows no more commitment to something than attending a concert or football game. Many go purely for the entertainment value, not for some "strange adoration" of the speaker. That's something folks like you just say because you refuse to understand that people can like Trump.

fka ftc said:

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Rural America loves Donald Trump.

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Rural cares about getting **** done and not decorum understanding you cannot always play nice and sometimes have to ruffle a feather or shoot a rabid dog.

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The irony of thinking that Trump is the guy who "gets **** done" over DeSantis is just amazing to me and it's even more amazing when you think that in his second term pushing 80 with no competent staff and dealing with a ton of legal issues he will turn into this hyper organized taskmaster that he wasn't the first time. The guy also is the ultimate big talker who will fold under pressure just like he did on the border and on Covid and on "Lock her up" and on......

fka ftc said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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If you think the strange adoration some people have for a lifelong conman is normal I'm not sure what to tell you. It's no different than the Obama love from the left and just as sad. There is a big difference between what you are talking about and the people who go to his rallies or talk about how much they love him, etc., but you know that.

I mean, there are even some people who spend hours every week justifying and defending every move he makes and sometimes compare him to Jesus

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People hate on the Jesus comparison but regarding political persecution it is on point.

Heck, when you consider how every action of his life for the past 40 years has been investigated, litigated, attacked, condemned by everyone from politicians, MSM, courts, corrupt DAs, corrupt judges, weaponized DOJ, fraudulent FBI, complicit IRS and the only thing they come up with are the laughably baseless accusations including the videos regard Jan 6th interviews. I am thinking the Jesus comparison may be even more apt.

Attending a rally shows no more commitment to something than attending a concert or football game. Many go purely for the entertainment value, not for some "strange adoration" of the speaker. That's something folks like you just say because you refuse to understand that people can like Trump.

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Yea, generally when you compare a lying adulterer who talks about grabbing women by the ***** to Jesus I would assume you're going to get disagreement from pretty much everyone, even if you attempt to limit to his treatment.

And not going to agree with your implication that attending a concert or sporting event is somehow similar to watching a sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+. To his credit, he certainly has figured out how to connect with a specific segment of the population, but doesn't make it any less weird or sad.

When you resort to "lock her up" as evidence of Trump unable to get stuff done is pretty laughable at this point and considering the utter derangement the left has had to "lock Trump up".

Congrats to you and the left on showing just how deranged and un-American actually "locking her up" would have been, even though HRC and Biden have actually committed crimes versus accusations on Trump.

And comparing DeSantis's recent "victories" as governor with significant majorities in the FL lege vs Trump who had Paul Ryan and John McCain to overcome then total blockage by Pelosi and Schumer is simply ignoring facts and circumstances between Trump v DeSantis.

But if clutching the thick soles of Ronnie's boots is what you got, then its what you got.

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Yea, generally when you compare a lying adulterer who talks about grabbing women by the ***** to Jesus I would assume you're going to get disagreement from pretty much everyone, even if you attempt to limit to his treatment.

And not going to agree with your implication that attending a concert or sporting event is somehow similar to watching a sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+. To his credit, he certainly has figured out how to connect with a specific segment of the population, but doesn't make it any less weird or sad.

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Pretty sure Jesus spent a fair amount of time talking to folks about forgiveness of sins and such, but you cannot get past Trump's past.

Your TDS runs pretty deep when you have to say "sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+" in order to attack anyone attending a Trump rally.

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When you resort to "lock her up" as evidence of Trump unable to get stuff done is pretty laughable at this point and considering the utter derangement the left has had to "lock Trump up".

Congrats to you and the left on showing just how deranged and un-American actually "locking her up" would have been, even though HRC and Biden have actually committed crimes versus accusations on Trump.

And comparing DeSantis's recent "victories" as governor with significant majorities in the FL lege vs Trump who had Paul Ryan and John McCain to overcome then total blockage by Pelosi and Schumer is simply ignoring facts and circumstances between Trump v DeSantis.

But if clutching the thick soles of Ronnie's boots is what you got, then its what you got.

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Yes, it is completely unfair to compare results vs excuses...

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three simple cures for TDS, delete twitter and face book account and stop watching msm.

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So hide? That doesn't sound suspect at all for feeling great about your candidate. Picking a side and then surrounding yourself with folks who only think like you is what will finish our country off. Have confidence to defend conservative ideals. Otherwise, we become old ladies. Scared and angry.

Yep, totally unfair to compare what Trump did as POTUS against stacked opposition vs Ronnie with majorities.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

And prepare for incoming "those were EOs reversed by Biden" from BigRob in 3... 2... 1...

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doubledog said:

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three simple cures for TDS, delete twitter and face book account and stop watching msm.

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So hide? That doesn't sound suspect at all for feeling great about your candidate. Picking a side and then surrounding yourself with folks who only think like you is what will finish our country off. Have confidence to defend conservative ideals. Otherwise, we become old ladies. Scared and angry.

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Pretty sure its part of implementing one's agenda is having folks who either think like you or are at least loyal in carrying out your agenda.

Having nothing but dissenters leads to mutiny. But here on f16 folks think making someone walk the plank is a sign of weakness. Bizarre.

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Yep, totally unfair to compare what Trump did as POTUS against stacked opposition vs Ronnie with majorities.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

And prepare for incoming "those were EOs reversed by Biden" from BigRob in 3... 2... 1...

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You're just saying that it's unfair to compare the accomplishments of someone who does things in a way that gets them done compared to the one who finds ways to make it difficult for himself because it was way more difficult for the second guy. Yeah, obviously it's harder for the incompetent guy to get stuff done. That doesn't mean it is unfair to compare the 2.

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When you resort to "lock her up" as evidence of Trump unable to get stuff done is pretty laughable at this point and considering the utter derangement the left has had to "lock Trump up".

Congrats to you and the left on showing just how deranged and un-American actually "locking her up" would have been, even though HRC and Biden have actually committed crimes versus accusations on Trump.

And comparing DeSantis's recent "victories" as governor with significant majorities in the FL lege vs Trump who had Paul Ryan and John McCain to overcome then total blockage by Pelosi and Schumer is simply ignoring facts and circumstances between Trump v DeSantis.

But if clutching the thick soles of Ronnie's boots is what you got, then its what you got.

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Trump literally made that a campaign plank and threw it out about 5 minutes after he was elected but ok. How about Repeal of Obamacare then? I notice you didn't want to talk about the Border (finishing the Wall, having Mexico pay for it, holding back on deporting illegals because it made Dems mad) either. He sure "Drained the Swamp" too,

More than that though "get **** done" followed by excuses and whining about how it's hard is a joke. The W's outside of foreign policy (which is all gone now) and the SC appointments (that McConnell deserves a lot of credit for) are DeSantis also got a LOT done when he was elected by a hair and had a much, much smaller majority to work with in the Leg. He started winning and kept winning so the more you win the more you can get done. Then once he did have the power after '22 he pushed it ALL through and then some. He's literally at the point in Florida where they have to dream up new conservative legislation to pass because everything else has already been made law. It sure as hell wasn't that way in 2018.

Will DeSantis fail if he is President? Maybe, but Trump already showed he will and he's in a much weaker position now than he was the first time.

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Trump literally made that a campaign plank and threw it out about 5 minutes after he was elected but ok. How about Repeal of Obamacare then? I notice you didn't want to talk about the Border (finishing the Wall, having Mexico pay for it, holding back on deporting illegals because it made Dems mad) either. He sure "Drained the Swamp" too,

More than that though "get **** done" followed by excuses and whining about how it's hard is a joke. The W's outside of foreign policy (which is all gone now) and the SC appointments (that McConnell deserves a lot of credit for) are DeSantis also got a LOT done when he was elected by a hair and had a much, much smaller majority to work with in the Leg. He started winning and kept winning so the more you win the more you can get done. Then once he did have the power after '22 he pushed it ALL through and then some. He's literally at the point in Florida where they have to dream up new conservative legislation to pass because everything else has already been made law. It sure as hell wasn't that way in 2018.

Will DeSantis fail if he is President? Maybe, but Trump already showed he will and he's in a much weaker position now than he was the first time.

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Obamacare Repeal (failure of) rests on that incompetent wimp John McCain, may he continue to roast in the permanent home he earned.

Border was being built and in areas completed has proved effective, heck effective even in places where Biden decides to leave the gates open from time to time.

Trump did not fail as POTUS. Sure there are valid criticisms on COVID and on him playing nice with others to get more consensus, but there is also plenty of blame to be had on McCain / Romney RINOs as well. Along with thankless backstabbers like Ron DeSantis.

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Trump literally made that a campaign plank and threw it out about 5 minutes after he was elected but ok. How about Repeal of Obamacare then? I notice you didn't want to talk about the Border (finishing the Wall, having Mexico pay for it, holding back on deporting illegals because it made Dems mad) either. He sure "Drained the Swamp" too,

More than that though "get **** done" followed by excuses and whining about how it's hard is a joke. The W's outside of foreign policy (which is all gone now) and the SC appointments (that McConnell deserves a lot of credit for) are DeSantis also got a LOT done when he was elected by a hair and had a much, much smaller majority to work with in the Leg. He started winning and kept winning so the more you win the more you can get done. Then once he did have the power after '22 he pushed it ALL through and then some. He's literally at the point in Florida where they have to dream up new conservative legislation to pass because everything else has already been made law. It sure as hell wasn't that way in 2018.

Will DeSantis fail if he is President? Maybe, but Trump already showed he will and he's in a much weaker position now than he was the first time.

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Obamacare Repeal (failure of) rests on that incompetent wimp John McCain, may he continue to roast in the permanent home he earned.

Border was being built and in areas completed has proved effective, heck effective even in places where Biden decides to leave the gates open from time to time.

Trump did not fail as POTUS. Sure there are valid criticisms on COVID and on him playing nice with others to get more consensus, but there is also plenty of blame to be had on McCain / Romney RINOs as well. Along with thankless backstabbers like Ron DeSantis.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHA, So now DeSantis is one of the excuses for him not getting anything done????????? That's great! Say something else!

Sorry reading is hard. That is not what I said. "like" as comparison not as an example.

But if you want to ignore the rest to score a snark, go for it. I take that, and others should as well, that you fully agree with the rest of what I posted.

Thank you for coming to your senses and seeing it my way.

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Trump literally made that a campaign plank and threw it out about 5 minutes after he was elected but ok. How about Repeal of Obamacare then? I notice you didn't want to talk about the Border (finishing the Wall, having Mexico pay for it, holding back on deporting illegals because it made Dems mad) either. He sure "Drained the Swamp" too,

More than that though "get **** done" followed by excuses and whining about how it's hard is a joke. The W's outside of foreign policy (which is all gone now) and the SC appointments (that McConnell deserves a lot of credit for) are DeSantis also got a LOT done when he was elected by a hair and had a much, much smaller majority to work with in the Leg. He started winning and kept winning so the more you win the more you can get done. Then once he did have the power after '22 he pushed it ALL through and then some. He's literally at the point in Florida where they have to dream up new conservative legislation to pass because everything else has already been made law. It sure as hell wasn't that way in 2018.

Will DeSantis fail if he is President? Maybe, but Trump already showed he will and he's in a much weaker position now than he was the first time.

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Obamacare Repeal (failure of) rests on that incompetent wimp John McCain, may he continue to roast in the permanent home he earned.

Border was being built and in areas completed has proved effective, heck effective even in places where Biden decides to leave the gates open from time to time.

Trump did not fail as POTUS. Sure there are valid criticisms on COVID and on him playing nice with others to get more consensus, but there is also plenty of blame to be had on McCain / Romney RINOs as well. Along with thankless backstabbers like Ron DeSantis.

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I didn't say he failed, the point was about "getting **** done" and then you listing off all the reasons he couldn't get any of the really hard stuff done because it was hard and involved getting people to work with you. Of course Trump also wasn't able to do a lot of things that he didn't need someone else to do he was just too scared of the blowback.

I was proud to vote for Trump in '20 but he made a lot of mistakes as President and didn't finish the job on most of his agenda. That was also when he was younger and didn't have dozens of legal matters taking his attention.

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Sorry reading is hard. That is not what I said. "like" as comparison not as an example.

But if you want to ignore the rest to score a snark, go for it. I take that, and others should as well, that you fully agree with the rest of what I posted.

Thank you for coming to your senses and seeing it my way.

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Ok, I am sorry for misunderstanding your... comparison...

I guess I am just not smart enough to thread the needle from someone who actually accomplishes the things being "like" the reasons why Trump couldn't do those things. That totally makes sense.

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fka ftc said:

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Sorry reading is hard. That is not what I said. "like" as comparison not as an example.

But if you want to ignore the rest to score a snark, go for it. I take that, and others should as well, that you fully agree with the rest of what I posted.

Thank you for coming to your senses and seeing it my way.

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Ok, I am sorry for misunderstanding your... comparison...

I guess I am just not smart enough to thread the needle from someone who actually accomplishes the things being "like" the reasons why Trump couldn't do those things. That totally makes sense.

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Its okay. Try not to be too hard on yourself.

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Yea, generally when you compare a lying adulterer who talks about grabbing women by the ***** to Jesus I would assume you're going to get disagreement from pretty much everyone, even if you attempt to limit to his treatment.

And not going to agree with your implication that attending a concert or sporting event is somehow similar to watching a sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+. To his credit, he certainly has figured out how to connect with a specific segment of the population, but doesn't make it any less weird or sad.

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Pretty sure Jesus spent a fair amount of time talking to folks about forgiveness of sins and such, but you cannot get past Trump's past.

Your TDS runs pretty deep when you have to say "sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+" in order to attack anyone attending a Trump rally.

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If tds is thinking people are weird for taking time out of their day to watch whatever is happening here in person, then guilty I guess.

Donald Trump is embarrassing to the GOP.

Vote @RonDeSantis — don’t overthink things.

pic.twitter.com/9mfeViVomj

— Cryptid Politics 🇺🇸🐊 (@CryptidPolitics) November 3, 2023

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Lord, another poor take.

Its not "he's better than Biden". It is an example of the differences.

Trump repeatedly had religious leaders meet with him and ask them to pray for him.

How about we agree that neither I nor anyone on this forum knows of or understands whatever relationship Trump may have with God.

To me, there is more indication he actually has a relationship vs not, but that is my opinion and I do not think it is either accurate or appropriate to make assumptions that he thinks himself a deity or above a deity.

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Now let's see if anyone will give Obama the benefit of the doubt on ANY of what you said above. We all have/had him pegged as a Muslim that hated America. His attendance in church was all fake. We live in a world now where everyone allows their own guys all kinds of indiscretions, asks for reasonableness and grace with said politician while believing that they have the opponent's moral compass all figured out. We are swimming in hypocrisy.

If we are talking our individual best guesses, which we all should just admit that is what we are doing, here is mine. Donald Trump cares only about Donald Trump, as many folks do, so he plays to Christians because he knows he can win them (and has won them) over. What is hard as a Christian to witness is how he handles everything else, from his personal life with porn stars to bragging about grabbing women to how he flirts with some awful groups (white nationals, dictators) because his terrible weakness is that he has to be adored. Way worse then even Bill Clinton and that dude had it so bad he was getting blown by an almost college kid in the Oval Office. All of that makes me need to always question WHO sent him? I am now pretty convinced is is not our Heavenly Father.

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Yea, generally when you compare a lying adulterer who talks about grabbing women by the ***** to Jesus I would assume you're going to get disagreement from pretty much everyone, even if you attempt to limit to his treatment.

And not going to agree with your implication that attending a concert or sporting event is somehow similar to watching a sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+. To his credit, he certainly has figured out how to connect with a specific segment of the population, but doesn't make it any less weird or sad.

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Pretty sure Jesus spent a fair amount of time talking to folks about forgiveness of sins and such, but you cannot get past Trump's past.

Your TDS runs pretty deep when you have to say "sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+" in order to attack anyone attending a Trump rally.

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If tds is thinking people are weird for taking time out of their day to watch whatever is happening here in person, then guilty I guess.

Donald Trump is embarrassing to the GOP.

Vote @RonDeSantis — don’t overthink things.

pic.twitter.com/9mfeViVomj

— Cryptid Politics 🇺🇸🐊 (@CryptidPolitics) November 3, 2023

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What is the context for this video?

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fka ftc said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Yea, generally when you compare a lying adulterer who talks about grabbing women by the ***** to Jesus I would assume you're going to get disagreement from pretty much everyone, even if you attempt to limit to his treatment.

And not going to agree with your implication that attending a concert or sporting event is somehow similar to watching a sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+. To his credit, he certainly has figured out how to connect with a specific segment of the population, but doesn't make it any less weird or sad.

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Pretty sure Jesus spent a fair amount of time talking to folks about forgiveness of sins and such, but you cannot get past Trump's past.

Your TDS runs pretty deep when you have to say "sweaty geriatric buffoon ramble and lie for an hour+" in order to attack anyone attending a Trump rally.

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If tds is thinking people are weird for taking time out of their day to watch whatever is happening here in person, then guilty I guess.

Donald Trump is embarrassing to the GOP.

Vote @RonDeSantis — don’t overthink things.

pic.twitter.com/9mfeViVomj

— Cryptid Politics 🇺🇸🐊 (@CryptidPolitics) November 3, 2023

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What is the context for this video?

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From one of his rallies, I guess he's imitating someone? Not surprising his handlers are scared of him debating seeing stuff like that.

You are looking at TDS taken to the very bitter end.

Politico details how top democratic strategist for 40-years plans to euthanize himself on Thursday in Switzerland.

And you guessed it.

He finds peace in the certainty that he will never have to see Donald Trump sworn in again.

With his final bit of analysis, he's "optimistic that if Trump is convicted of a crime the dynamics of the presidential race will change." But also doubts that his party's consultants have the proper mindset to seize the opportunity to change voters' opinions."

"If there's an influx of those kinds of people, then I'd rather just be closed," said the bar owner.

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Has the medical community come out with a treatment and cure for TDS. It seems like it is a pandemic. Do these people need to be isolated for an extended period of time. While isolated, do they need to wear a mask. Is their a ****/ vaccine for the disease?

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Did you mean Trump Devotion Syndrome?

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Ah, I wondered how long it would take for DSL to show up. DSL is close cousin to TDS.

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The White House issued a statement condemning "vile and unhinged Antisemitic rhetoric" on Monday after former President Donald Trump said "any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion."

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Trump baits dems into lashing out like a caged possum.

Bond reduction rage drives TDS'ers to go after Trump's in-laws.

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Bond reduction rage drives TDS'ers to go after Trump's in-laws.

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And dead people since sine she died around Christmas..

Judge gives Trump day off from court to attend kids graduation. Trump schedules to attend fundraiser later the same day. TDSers rage.

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Judge gives Trump day off from court to attend kids graduation. Trump schedules to attend fundraiser later the same day. TDSers rage.

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And???

'Explosive secret list'

What are the odds?

TDS was inevitably going to be a thing after close to a decade of thanks a lot Obama. The other side of the coin.

Let's go Brandon!

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'Explosive secret list'

What are the odds?

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Not very good to the extent the article is supposed to be about TDS.

https://amp.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/may/11/secret-list-abusers-cannes-film-festival

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For good and bad reasons, on and off the red carpet, the spotlight is trained on women in the run-up to the Cannes film festival this week. As the cream of female film talent, including Hollywood's Meryl Streep and Britain's Andrea Arnold, prepare to receive significant career awards, a dark cloud is threatening. It is expected that new allegations of the abuse of women in the European entertainment industry will be made public, which may overshadow the sparkle of a feminist Croisette.
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In the run-up to the annual gathering on the Cte d'Azur, rumours have been widespread in France of the existence of a secret list of 10 men in the industry, including leading actors and directors, who have been abusive to women. The names, described as "explosive", are believed to have been sent anonymously to the National Centre for Cinema in Paris, along with other leading film finance companies in France.

According to reports in Le Figaro and the satirical magazine, Le Canard enchan, festival organisers have set up a crisis management team to respond to the accusations. Films might have to be dropped from the screening timetable if they involve implicated names.

The impending revelations may prove an apt curtain-raiser for the Wednesday premiere of a short French film, Moi Aussi, about abuse in the industry. The film, which was added to the festival's Un Certain Regard programme at the last minute, is predicted to prove just as incendiary as the list, owing to its emotive content.
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The 52-year-old actor first shook up French cinema in February when she accused the directors Jacques Doillon and Benot Jacquot of having raped her in the 1980s when she was a teenager. Jacquot, 77, Godrche said, had a relationship with her when she was under the age of consent. He denies committing any offences and has said that he was "under her spell". She claims Doillon, 80, forced her to take part in a gratuitous sex scene on his 1989 film La Fille de 15 ans (The 15-year-old Girl). He says she agreed to take part in the scene, in which he also acted, and he denies rape or assault. Godrche followed up her accusations a month later with a speech at France's high-profile Cesar awards in which she claimed the film industry had been a cover for exploiting underaged actors.
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Yada, yada. I kept expecting Home Alone 2 to pop up, but the closest it came to smearing an American was Johnny Depp (Weinstein excepting).

I can see why you eschewed the link.

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