Mike Lindell hoisted by his own petard

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11:25a, 4/20/23
This should go in the rake-stepping Hall of Fame.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest/
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MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a "cyber symposium" he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year's U.S. election.

He called the challenge "Prove Mike Wrong."

On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone did.

The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout.

Zeidman had examined Lindell's data and concluded that not only did it not prove voter fraud, it also had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show.

He turned to the arbitrators after Lindell Management, which created the contest, refused to pay him.

In their 23-page decision, the arbitrators said Zeidman proved that Lindell's material "unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data." They directed Lindell's firm to pay Zeidman within 30 days.
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Ellis Wyatt
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In reply to Correction • 11:26a, 4/20/23
OK. And still a distraction.

Everyone should be concerned about election sanctity and security. The people who are not are fully invested in the insecurity.
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11:29a, 4/20/23
When BSC backfires.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 11:29a, 4/20/23
Lindell is not concerned about election security; he's concerned about making money. He's reduced himself to being a con artist now.
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11:33a, 4/20/23
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Lindell is nuttier than squirrel *****
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 11:34a, 4/20/23
Ellis Wyatt said:


Everyone should be concerned about election sanctity and security. The people who are not are fully invested in the insecurity.
Does it enhance "election sanctity and security" to have grifters and loons flinging crap in every direction?

Honest question, on balance, do you feel it is a net benefit to American society to have someone like Mike Lindell going around bandying fake data to "prove" malfeasance?
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 11:36a, 4/20/23
HTownAg98 said:
Lindell is not concerned about election security; he's concerned about making money. He's reduced himself to being a con artist now.


I don't think it's about making money. I think he's cracked and really does see trump as the savior of the country
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In reply to Correction • 11:36a, 4/20/23
People need to be paying attention to what is happening in our elections. In many places, they are not remotely secure.

I don't particularly care about Mike Lindell one way or another. The issue needs attention.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 11:39a, 4/20/23
Ellis Wyatt said:
OK. And still a distraction.

Everyone should be concerned about election sanctity and security. The people who are not are fully invested in the insecurity.
I'm all for election security. I do find it interesting that all the evidence for widespread Democratic fraud in the 2020 is based on lies and fabricated data. If it was true, they wouldn't have to make stuff up.

I am not sure what election sanctity is, being sure that everyone who is eligible to vote can?

It is much easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that he has been fooled.
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11:39a, 4/20/23
AG
Ignorant question here. Does the arbitrator have any leverage to force him to pay?
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 11:40a, 4/20/23
HTownAg98 said:
Lindell is not concerned about election security; he's concerned about making money. He's reduced himself to being a con artist now.
Being labeled an election denier by MSM and government mouthpieces that have peoples ears is a pretty poor business plan. I'm going to bet Lindell is smarter than that.
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In reply to Watermelon Man • 11:40a, 4/20/23
Watermelon Man said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
OK. And still a distraction.

Everyone should be concerned about election sanctity and security. The people who are not are fully invested in the insecurity.
I'm all for election security. I do find it interesting that all the evidence for widespread Democratic fraud in the 2020 is based on lies and fabricated data.
Democrats make elections less secure every opportunity they can.
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In reply to RoadkillBBQ • 11:41a, 4/20/23
His recent actions would prove otherwise.
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11:42a, 4/20/23
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I don't see how this country will survive another stolen election.
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In reply to RoadkillBBQ • 11:42a, 4/20/23
RoadkillBBQ said:
HTownAg98 said:
Lindell is not concerned about election security; he's concerned about making money. He's reduced himself to being a con artist now.
Being labeled an election denier by MSM and government mouthpieces that have peoples ears is a pretty poor business plan. I'm going to bet Lindell is smarter than that.
He's been making a killing from all the Trumpkins with pro-TDS.
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11:46a, 4/20/23
The election was stolen via ballot harvesting and old school voter fraud in a handful of specific counties.

All of the crap being pushed by Rudy, Powell, and Lindell was nothing but an idiotic distraction.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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11:47a, 4/20/23
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system.

Fox
Donald
Mike

Enjoy each others company

Mouths writing checks that the ass can't cash
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In reply to TikkaShooter • 11:49a, 4/20/23
AG
TikkaShooter said:
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system.

Fox
Donald
Mike

Enjoy each others company

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Was this the legal system?
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In reply to PatriotAg02 • 11:51a, 4/20/23
PatriotAg02 said:
I don't see how this country will survive another stolen election.
Is Mike Lindell helping or hurting the situation?
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In reply to TikkaShooter • 11:52a, 4/20/23
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TikkaShooter said:
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system DNC.

Fox
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FIFY
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In reply to Yesterday • 11:54a, 4/20/23
Is arbitration not an arm of the legal system? Is the decision not binding? What else would you call arbitration?
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:00p, 4/20/23
Ellis Wyatt said:
People need to be paying attention to what is happening in our elections. In many places, they are not remotely secure.

I don't particularly care about Mike Lindell one way or another. The issue needs attention.


The issue has had the attention by those in power, at least those in the red states. If there's anything wrong with the elections in those states it should make one wonder if it's sheer incompetence, or by design. I say that because Republicans winning in local, state, and in congress, yet Trump losing, is one of two things: the voters really did vote to get rid of Trump or the establishment took their votes for Trump and nullified them or switched them.
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In reply to Correction • 12:02p, 4/20/23
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PatriotAg02 said:
I don't see how this country will survive another stolen election.
Is Mike Lindell helping or hurting the situation?


I think Mike is as true a believer as they come. Like Rudy and most maga, he believes he's fighting for the cause. How he's going about it is what has turned the views of many to go from helping to hurting.
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In reply to TikkaShooter • 12:02p, 4/20/23
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TikkaShooter said:
Is arbitration not an arm of the legal system? Is the decision not binding? What else would you call arbitration?


That's what I'm asking.
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12:02p, 4/20/23
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Also read this in the report.

" The Panel was not asked to decide whether China interfered in the 2020 election. Nor was the Panel asked to decide whether Lindell LLC possessed data that proved such interference, or even whether Lindell LLC had election data in its possession"
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In reply to RoadkillBBQ • 12:05p, 4/20/23
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RoadkillBBQ said:
HTownAg98 said:
Lindell is not concerned about election security; he's concerned about making money. He's reduced himself to being a con artist now.
Being labeled an election denier by MSM and government mouthpieces that have peoples ears is a pretty poor business plan. I'm going to bet Lindell is smarter than that.
But maybe did a little too much coke.
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In reply to Yesterday • 12:06p, 4/20/23
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Yesterday said:
TikkaShooter said:
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system.

Fox
Donald
Mike

Enjoy each others company

Mouths writing checks that the ass can't cash


Was this the legal system?
Parties agreed to submit it to arbitration per a contract for binding arbitration. Court action would be pointless due to the technical expertise required to understand the material. And this arbitration panel had a very very narrow focus solely on PCAP. Packets captured showing to and from IP addresses.
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In reply to Correction • 12:06p, 4/20/23
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Impossible, so many said the election was stolen including Fox.
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In reply to TikkaShooter • 12:14p, 4/20/23
TikkaShooter said:
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system.

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You forgot 2016 Democrats....
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:15p, 4/20/23
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aggiehawg said:
Yesterday said:
TikkaShooter said:
This is amazing. Absolutely nothing more enjoyable than watching election deniers get roasted by the legal system.

Fox
Donald
Mike

Enjoy each others company

Mouths writing checks that the ass can't cash


Was this the legal system?
Parties agreed to submit it to arbitration per a contract for binding arbitration. Court action would be pointless due to the technical expertise required to understand the material. And this arbitration panel had a very very narrow focus solely on PCAP. Packets captured showing to and from IP addresses.


This is an interesting read having read the actual report. It sounds like the contestants didn't get the actual data Lindell was bragging about. Instead they got a snippet of it in a video format.

The arbitration panel did not determine that Lindell was full of ****, rather the data he provided(snippet of a video) to the contestants did not pertain to the 2020 election.
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12:17p, 4/20/23
Lindel is just one man, and not at all representative of conservatives, but the Dems are glomming all over him to pivot any election discussion away from their illegal tampering of mechanics.
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In reply to Get Off My Lawn • 12:19p, 4/20/23
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Get Off My Lawn said:
Lindel is just one man, and not at all representative of conservatives, but the Dems are glomming all over him to pivot any election discussion away from their illegal tampering of mechanics.
He shared the stage with president and president said favorable things about him an uncomfortable amount of times given his level of crazy. He's not just some guy, he's one of your guys. You can't just act like he's not.
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In reply to Correction • 12:21p, 4/20/23
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This should go in the rake-stepping Hall of Fame.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest/
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MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a "cyber symposium" he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year's U.S. election.

He called the challenge "Prove Mike Wrong."

On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone did.

The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout.

Zeidman had examined Lindell's data and concluded that not only did it not prove voter fraud, it also had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show.

He turned to the arbitrators after Lindell Management, which created the contest, refused to pay him.

In their 23-page decision, the arbitrators said Zeidman proved that Lindell's material "unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data." They directed Lindell's firm to pay Zeidman within 30 days.
Washington Post and Leftist Activists have the whole system rigged.
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In reply to Yesterday • 12:21p, 4/20/23
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The arbitration panel did not determine that Lindell was full of ****, rather the data he provided(snippet of a video) to the contestants did not pertain to the 2020 election.
There was more than just a snippet of video but you are correct. This was a very narrow finding based on several computer files which in themselves were very specific. Were there packets of data going back and forth with 2020 election data with China?

What this guy was provided for purposes of the contest contain that information? Answer was no. His other claims were denied.
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In reply to Yesterday • 12:22p, 4/20/23
Yesterday said:
Also read this in the report.

" The Panel was not asked to decide whether China interfered in the 2020 election. Nor was the Panel asked to decide whether Lindell LLC possessed data that proved such interference, or even whether Lindell LLC had election data in its possession"


Anything in the report about whether the Panel was asked to decide whether the tooth fairy was real?
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