Getting an arbitration award overturned by a court is very very difficult.

You're a racist. /libs everywhere.

Anytime you talk about changing election laws this is the lefts tried and true response.

Amazing that Lindell thought he could get away with this.

He brought in a bunch of legitimate experts and gave them some incredibly bad data. Not in original format, had been sorted, etc. One of the files they gave the contestant was just a list of random Chinese IP addresses with no other context. He said he had a bunch of intercepted data packets, but he never provided those. Just a bunch of random crap.

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Amazing that Lindell thought he could get away with this.

He brought in a bunch of legitimate experts and gave them some incredibly bad data. Not in original format, had been sorted, etc. One of the files they gave the contestant was just a list of random Chinese IP addresses with no other context. He said he had a bunch of intercepted data packets, but he never provided those. Just a bunch of random crap.

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The pillow ads were running non-stop during his symposium along with direct requests to buy - like it was a Jerry Lewis telethon but for Lindell products.

Even if he is forced to cough up the 5 million by the arbitrator, federal court, and through post-judgment collection measures maybe it was well worth it in the Mattress Mac sense. He made money whether the Astros won or lost.

Regardless Lindell is a fun character. All of the Mission Impossible election fraud team were pretty colorful.

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Lindell is nuttier than squirrel *****

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Lindell and My Pillow are apparently too broke to afford their lawyers.

MyPillow’s law firm seeks to withdraw from the billion dollar defamation case brought by Dominion, saying Lindell’s company hasn’t paid millions of dollars of its bills. pic.twitter.com/oWVhJupe0E

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 5, 2023

Maybe he can hire Guliani?

Apparently it's real bad.

Mike Lindell tells @darehgregorian he's broke. "We've lost everything, every dime... All of it is gone." His lawyers say he owes them millions.https://t.co/2ei4HzTRRy

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) October 5, 2023

I still fail to understand why companies choose to take sides on anything political.

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I still fail to understand why companies choose to take sides on anything political.

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I'm sure it was a cash cow for him .....for a while. It was a gamble that paid off, until it didn't. I think the My Pillow guy will have a soft landing

No way he's broke. Why are his commercials still running nonstop?

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No way he's broke. Why are his commercials still running nonstop?

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Because he's broke.

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Link to him being broke?

I guess I'd better buy a Lumpy Pillow while I can?

The sooner everyone realizes that, anyone who goes against the Deep State will be bankrupted and destroyed, the better.
They are trying to seize all Trump property in NY.
Desantis will be next if he ever gets out of Florida and tries to do anything they don't approve.
Lawfare is real and powerful.

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No way he's broke. Why are his commercials still running nonstop?

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Because he's broke.

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Link to him being broke?

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Like 4 posts up. Come on, man.

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Artorias said:

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I still fail to understand why companies choose to take sides on anything political.

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I'm sure it was a cash cow for him .....for a while. It was a gamble that paid off, until it didn't. I think the My Pillow guy will have a soft landing

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So play stupid games and all that?

A federal judge on Wednesday affirmed a $5 million arbitration award against MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell in favor of a software engineer who challenged data that Lindell said proves China interfered in the 2020 U.S. presidential election and tipped the outcome to Joe Biden.
Lindell said he plans to appeal. Asked if he can afford to pay, he pointed out that the breach-of-contract lawsuit was against one of his companies, Lindell Management LLC, and not against him personally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/federal-judge-affirms-mypillows-mike-lindell-must-pay-5m-in-election-data-dispute/

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Ignorant question here. Does the arbitrator have any leverage to force him to pay?

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the arbitrator has no ability to make him pay.

in general terms, following an arbitration, the winning party goes to court to get a judgment entered conforming the arbitration award.

its in that court that the winning party can seek relief to execute on the judgment. and while that court can't "force" the losing party "to pay" it can do things like garnish bank accounts, seize assets, etc.

This a self driving car?

Mr Pillow out there hustlin’ to come up with the $5M judgment against him pic.twitter.com/Yk7Lj3WDHr

— Warren (@swd2) February 22, 2024

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This a self driving car?

Mr Pillow out there hustlin’ to come up with the $5M judgment against him pic.twitter.com/Yk7Lj3WDHr

— Warren (@swd2) February 22, 2024

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Still going on about voting machines. At least he's consistent.

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I guess I'd better buy a Lumpy Pillow while I can?

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I would. I bought 2 of his pillows & they are pretty good man.

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BMX Bandit said:

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This a self driving car?

Mr Pillow out there hustlin’ to come up with the $5M judgment against him pic.twitter.com/Yk7Lj3WDHr

— Warren (@swd2) February 22, 2024

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Still going on about voting machines. At least he's consistent.

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Meh...Dominion just hasn't come calling yet.

Dominion exec Coomer's case against Lindell is set for trial in June.

Lindell's lawyer is a complete idiot:

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A Colorado federal judge on Wednesday ordered two attorneys for MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell to explain why she shouldn't refer them for discipline for a brief full of misquotes, miscited cases and references to cases that "do not exist," noting that it wasn't until she asked about artificial intelligence that one of the lawyers admitted to his use of it.

U.S. District Court Judge Nina Y. Wang ordered attorneys Christopher I. Kachouroff of McSweeney Cynkar & Kachouroff PLLC and Jennifer T. DeMaster to explain how they prepared a response brief in former Dominion Voting Systems executive Eric Coomer's defamation lawsuit against Lindell, MyPillow Inc. and Lindell's website FrankSpeech LLC.

That brief contained nearly 30 "defective citations," including misquotes of cited cases, misrepresentations of legal principles and case law, and citations of cases that don't exist, Judge Wang wrote, ordering the attorneys to explain why she shouldn't sanction them

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www.law360.com/colorado

They never learn.

I knew he was wrong, and I work on election security. Coincidentally, I'm fiscally conservative and not woke... I've argued with many on here about what they believe is the case, and what the reality is. Sadly, since the entire country seems to have different standards (by state) and implementations, there is plenty of room for "errors."

Do we know what AI it was? Sounds like a great marketing opportunity for competitors!

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Lindell's lawyer is a complete idiot:

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This surprises me not.

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I knew he was wrong, and I work on election security. Coincidentally, I'm fiscally conservative and not woke... I've argued with many on here about what they believe is the case, and what the reality is. Sadly, since the entire country seems to have different standards (by state) and implementations, there is plenty of room for "errors."

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Much of the "room for errors" is deliberate, and the "errors" are also.

Update on the lawyer sanctions:

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Christopher Kachouroff of McSweeney Cynkar & Kachouroff PLLC admitted in a declaration Friday that he uses artificial intelligence to "analyze my own and my opposition's arguments" and "analyze the structure of my outline and the logic of arguments as well as those of the opposition," but he insisted he does not rely on it for legal research.

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Kachouroff said Friday that he didn't know when he was questioned last week about the error-laden brief that his co-counsel, solo practitioner Jennifer DeMaster, had mistakenly filed a draft of the "thoroughly reviewed and cite-checked" document they intended to submit while he was on a weeklong family vacation in Mexico with limited internet service.

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https://www.law360.com/colorado/

Using AI that spits out imaginary cases and law doesn't sound like a good way to analyze you and your opponent's arguments. Dog ate my first draft would have been an equally plausible excuse.

Lindell's lawyers now want a continuance of the trial because responding to the sanctions issue for using AI briefs is taking up too much of their time. the brazen temerity is impressive.

the judge has ordered the lawyers to produce in chambers all drafts of the brief with metadata intact.

Yes. Lawyers are idiots.

I went pro se in a matter over 20 years ago. The opposing counsel, a former judge who sat on the bench for 30+ years, without assistance of AI consistently did what Lindell's lawyers are accused of doing. NOTHING happened to the former judge.

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Kachouroff said Friday that he didn't know when he was questioned last week about the error-laden brief that his co-counsel, solo practitioner Jennifer DeMaster, had mistakenly filed a draft

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Right under the bus with Mrs. DeMaster!

Dominion mypillow trial has started.

“You’d better bring the receipts if you’re going to accuse someone of treason and being part of the biggest crime we’ve ever seen,” said Coomer’s attorney Charlie Cain.

— Kyle Clark (@KyleClark) June 3, 2025

DO NOT READ THIS UNLESS YOU ARE SITTING DOWN. SHOCKING INFORMATION BELOW

COLORADO… My Pillow Guy Mike Lindell admitting in court he has no evidence the 2020 election was rigged… pic.twitter.com/wx7WeORyx7

— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) June 3, 2025