RoadkillBBQ said:
Watermelon Man said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
Watermelon Man said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
OK. And still a distraction.
Everyone should be concerned about election sanctity and security. The people who are not are fully invested in the insecurity.
I'm all for election security. I do find it interesting that all the evidence for widespread Democratic fraud in the 2020 is based on lies and fabricated data.
Democrats make elections less secure every opportunity they can.
And it is so easy to prove that with all the lies and fabricated data.
I know that Democrats are your boogie man, but the thing is, without the lies and fabricated data, there is no evidence that the elections are not secure.
It's all made up.
How about we at least get rid of ballot harvesting, drop boxes, mail in voting and require voting in person with a valid ID.
Well, in the case of vote-by-mail, it is utilized in at lease eight states (California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington allow all elections to be conducted by mail). It is highly valued by the citizens of those states, Republicans and Democrats alike. If it was inherently fraudulent, as many here espouse, if not actually believe, how do they make it work in those states?
As for the ballot harvesting and drop boxes, this is just a part of the vote-by-mail process, correct? If the process is inherently fraudulent, why aren't there candidates, from both parties, crying foul? I mean, even Democrats have to win their primary, correct? Do you think if there was fraud going on they would just sit back and keep quiet? But, primary or general election, it's only Republicans that cry about it.
Come on, man. If there was widespread fraud due to ballot harvesting at the level to influence the outcome, you'd think that they could find some evidence. It would take a lot of organization to pull something like that off. But, nobody has leaked any e-mails? No texts? No records of the meetings? I mean, we have all that for the Jan 6 insurrection, which just gets dismissed with a hand wave. But, for the "Greatest example of election fraud in all time," there is not a single clue?
I know, when you've doubled-down on the fraud narrative so many times you've lost count, it can be hard to realize you've been had.
I mean, it's just another opinion, right? Like, Celine Dion is the best singer, ever, is just an opinion, right?
No, it's not just another opinion. It's a fact. The people telling you the election was stolen were lying to you. At best, you might want to believe that some of them were merely crazies and actually believed it, but reality is that it is highly unlikely any of them believed it. They just found it was profitable to lie.
It is much easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that he has been fooled.