Putin announces the rise of the new Empire of Russia

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J. Walter Weatherman
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Woods Ag said:

Would the war even be a war if the US didn't stick their noses in it?

How long would it have lasted?

I'm not saying Putin should have done it. He's a bad bad man, ok? I want to clarify befor you go jumping off a cliff again.




WW2 would have ended much faster if we and others didn't get involved either. Would that have been a better outcome? I don't think we should be in Ukraine forever but I see no issues with us using a small percentage of our military budget to help an ally fight off an invader.
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Oh **** off comparing this to ****ing WW2 and hitler. ********** man, you'll say anything won't you?

A small percentage..
J. Walter Weatherman
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Zergling Rush said:

It's people like you is the reason we are in the predicament we are now.

Being disingenuous isn't a good trait for anyone. Let's not kid ourselves, deep down inside you know Biden is a complete piece of ***** Most likely a pedophile and corrupt as the day is long. It's obvious to anyone who has half a brain.

Yet, you'd rather run cover for evil than confront it, because confronting it will destroy your world view.


As far as "takin the side of a murdering dictator" goes, Evil is Evil. The man is ordering the death of his citizens and those of another country for political reasons. Same could be said of Biden and Zelensky. I don't tolerate any of it. IMO, good people should reject all three of them and the evil war policies they promote.


It's my fault that Putin invaded his neighbor? I think Biden is a clown but that doesn't mean he's in the same stratosphere as someone like Putin. If you think pointing out your factually incorrect comparison is "running cover" for Biden I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Woods Ag said:

Oh **** off comparing this to ****ing WW2 and hitler.


Solid, unemotional rebuttal.
Woods Ag
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You're full of ***** Someone has to say it.
J. Walter Weatherman
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Woods Ag said:

You're full of ***** Someone has to say it.


Cool. Just going to assume you don't have anything else substantive to add.
Woods Ag
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Not with you. If you have a nose bleed and I say you'll be fine, you'll reply with an instance thst the nose bleed signified brain cancer.

You're all "ah-ha, gotcha" replies. I don't have time for you.
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Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
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Woods Ag said:

Not with you. If you have a nose bleed and I say you'll be fine, you'll reply with an instance thst the nose bleed signified brain cancer.

You're all "ah-ha, gotcha" replies. I don't have time for you.


If I'm following your strange analogy, are you saying that a country being invaded by it's neighbor is equivalent to a nosebleed?
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See what I mean.

No, that's not what I'm saying.
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Its sad when Putin makes more sense than any democrat in this country. Yes, he is a maniac murderer, but at least he can read the room.

Saying Hilter also promoted a strong family unit is like saying the sky is blue. I think a strong family unit is pretty much a universal ideology in most cultures.
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I don't care who says it, who made the video, or who translated any words from any language to English. The comparison of some recent aspects of what many in the West call "progress" to the Bolsheviks and the tactics of Marx and Engels is spot-on and agreeing with that does not make anyone a "Putin fapper".
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Dies Irae said:

Torching both the West, and Communist/Marxist Russia. Billboard Chris is a tireless defender of children against groomers and the Canadian government who supports them. Nice to see him post this video as well, please watch the whole video


I do not care if this is a KGB op, he is 100% dead on accurate in everything he says. I agree with him fervently on everything.

Part of me wonders if a more conservative America actually benefits them in some way and he is trying to galvanize the conservatives here who are fed up with this out of control carney freakshow woke bullsh**.
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I seriously challenge anyone on here to refute a single thing he says ion that 7 min video. If Desantis or Trump said the exact same things we'd be going f'ing nuts, but even they don't call it all out like that. He is DEAD ON.

He makes more sense in that video than ANY living dem, and even most conservatives.
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PA24 said:

Doesn't matter.

He is Putin, Russia dog.
Maybe. Probably. But if any politician in the US said those exact words you would have cheered him or her on.

And if anyone prior to 2010 had heard those words they would have thought. 'Why is this guy stating the obvious.'

Never has a people radicalized as far or as fast as the modern left, maybe with the exception of the Jacobins of late 18th C France. If its not stopped we are all going to be in danger. Just ask the French of the 1790's or the citizens of Phon Pen in 1975.

Mental rabies moves fast.
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dermdoc said:

Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
Sad to see you buy off on that narrative and namelessly agree as to other TA posters lapping at his feet.
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nortex97 said:

dermdoc said:

Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
Sad to see you buy off on that narrative and namelessly agree as to other TA posters lapping at his feet.
This thread makes me sick. I can't believe anyone would defend Putin and what he is doing. Justify it anyway you see fit, he declare war on Ukraine to expand Russia power and for his benefit (As this video points out). History will rank him in the same group as Hitler when all said and done. (except Hitler military was actually good at war). This is not a liberal vs conservative debate.. don't kid yourself, Putin wants to see the US destroy and he has been using Information Operations for years in hopes of destabilizing this country. He is the enemy to the US and for an American to defend him... just sick.
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Ambres said:

nortex97 said:

dermdoc said:

Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
Sad to see you buy off on that narrative and namelessly agree as to other TA posters lapping at his feet.
This thread makes me sick. I can't believe anyone would defend Putin and what he is doing. Justify it anyway you see fit, he declare war on Ukraine to expand Russia power and for his benefit (As this video points out). History will rank him in the same group as Hitler when all said and done. (except Hitler military was actually good at war). This is not a liberal vs conservative debate.. don't kid yourself, Putin wants to see the US destroy and he has been using Information Operations for years in hopes of destabilizing this country. He is the enemy to the US and for an American to defend him... just sick.
Well say who is defending what wrongly then, making you so sick.

Putin is a bad actor. So is Zelensky. So is the Biden clan. So is the group running Ukraine that set this war up and will set up the pay offs after.

The same group as Hitler? Whatever, I think he's about equivalent to Yeltsin in historical afterthoughts.

I think it's cowardly to come on a message board and decry 'some' views without…identifying who or why specifically. Clearly 'some' don't think that's a problem though. Interestingly, many of 'those' views come from 'some' who happen to have not had an issue with 'Russia russia Russia' lies about Trump and the GOP for many years.
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I will say it again: There doesn't have to be a "good guy" in this conflict. Two black hats can have a fight with no need for a white hat. The governments of the west are sickeningly degenerate AND Putin is a tinpot POS who should be executed for war crimes when all of this is over.

I can't go out and beat my neighbor to death and use as a legal excuse that he was talking to somebody on another block who was a ***.
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No but it was clear that what Ukraine was doing by flirting with NATO was going to cause issues with Russia. Russia has been very clear on that for many years. It was agreed upon.

Ukraine did a great job of luring corrupt US politicians into bed so that they could be called upon at a later date. That day came and our political leaders answered the bell. If we go to WW3 it's squarely on the shoulders of this piece of **** president and those like him.

Don't poke the bear. eventually they'll attack. When they attack you still put the bear down, but it's also the fault of the poker.
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Ambres said:

nortex97 said:

dermdoc said:

Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
Sad to see you buy off on that narrative and namelessly agree as to other TA posters lapping at his feet.
This thread makes me sick. I can't believe anyone would defend Putin and what he is doing. Justify it anyway you see fit, he declare war on Ukraine to expand Russia power and for his benefit (As this video points out). History will rank him in the same group as Hitler when all said and done. (except Hitler military was actually good at war). This is not a liberal vs conservative debate.. don't kid yourself, Putin wants to see the US destroy and he has been using Information Operations for years in hopes of destabilizing this country. He is the enemy to the US and for an American to defend him... just sick.


We overthrew the pro-Russian government in Ukraine a decade ago, marched NATO to their doorstep, moved missiles into Poland, and wonder why he feels threatened.

If Putin is such a bad dude, let Europe take care of him. The European portion of NATO is more populous, and has a much larger GDP than Russia, let them handle it.

For my money, Russia has every right to invade Ukraine, Ukraine has every right to defend themselves against Ukraine. War is how you sort that out. None of our business.
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Amen. But Ukraine has our politicians by the balls
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I don't understand..

Here's my buddy's motorcycle he bought back in February and he sent me a pic because he's so excited that the weather is finally nice enough for him to get it out and tour around.

Edit: removed a pic bc I shouldn't share his *****

He's in St Petersburg. Mid 30s..

We were going to go there for the UEFA Champions League finals last year before this bull**** kicked off.
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Dies Irae said:

Ambres said:

nortex97 said:

dermdoc said:

Eliminatus said:

Putin is one of the nastiest snakes to have ever walked this Earth. It makes me sad that some here listen to the words with bright eyes and fail to acknowledge the messenger. Hitler also advocated for a strong family unit and encouraged it through message and policy.

He is a failed despot trying to desperately leave a legacy that he has envisioned for himself. As the modern czar that will bring Russia back to the forefront of power and fear.

He is just another serpent in the garden only fools and sycophants will glorify. Might as well go ahead and espouse the views and actions of Timothy McVeigh as a simple and righteous message to foster small government and protest against government overreach.

Putin is a ****ing bonafide murderous tyrant of an oppressive regime and we have starry eyed TA members lapping at his feet. Way to stick it to the dems there OP.
Agree completely.
Sad to see you buy off on that narrative and namelessly agree as to other TA posters lapping at his feet.
This thread makes me sick. I can't believe anyone would defend Putin and what he is doing. Justify it anyway you see fit, he declare war on Ukraine to expand Russia power and for his benefit (As this video points out). History will rank him in the same group as Hitler when all said and done. (except Hitler military was actually good at war). This is not a liberal vs conservative debate.. don't kid yourself, Putin wants to see the US destroy and he has been using Information Operations for years in hopes of destabilizing this country. He is the enemy to the US and for an American to defend him... just sick.


We overthrew the pro-Russian government in Ukraine a decade ago, marched NATO to their doorstep, moved missiles into Poland, and wonder why he feels threatened.

If Putin is such a bad dude, let Europe take care of him. The European portion of NATO is more populous, and has a much larger GDP than Russia, let them handle it.

For my money, Russia has every right to invade Ukraine, Ukraine has every right to defend themselves against Ukraine. War is how you sort that out. None of our business.


You act like Russia wasn't running their own intelligence ops in the country the entire time we were. They are just these innocent victims and we are the aggressors. They weren't, they were just the losers.

For example, their standard MO for the past 15 years is to encourage citizens to migrate to old Soviet territories, maintain Russian citizenship, set up false flag fascist organizations, then claim that the place is being overrun by Nazis and the people there want them to move in anyways.
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I don't think anyone is claiming they are innocent.

Just that our leaders and their leaders and the Ukrainian leaders are all corrupt grimey pieces of **** and the citizens (you and me, and the Russian citizens, and the Ukrainian citizens) pat the price for it.
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Agreed. I'm just saying that the idea that Putin is this person who's been wronged is ridiculous. They have agreed to play the same game we are, but the Russian leadership are just the losers. As they have been over and over for the past 60 years. You don't have to like that we play the game against them, but that won't change reality. Putin is finally getting ***** slapped for his hijinks, just like most of his predecessors.


The guy is losing a war with Joe Biden as the puppet master on the opposing side, for god's sakes.
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Woods Ag said:

I don't think anyone is claiming they are innocent.

Just that our leaders and their leaders and the Ukrainian leaders are all corrupt grimey pieces of **** and the citizens (you and me, and the Russian citizens, and the Ukrainian citizens) pat the price for it.


Pretty sure that's the claim when someone harps on all the things we supposedly did while not just glossing over Russia's long history of interference and aggression, but omitting it completely, and saying Russia had every right to invade a sovereign country.

That's like saying the mob has every right to extort a business and beat the **** out of the owner if they don't go along with it and no one else should intervene because it's none of their business.
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hoosier-daddy said:

I will watch nothing that satan's spawn has to say.
So no watching Target commercials for you?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Woods Ag said:

I don't think anyone is claiming they are innocent.

Just that our leaders and their leaders and the Ukrainian leaders are all corrupt grimey pieces of **** and the citizens (you and me, and the Russian citizens, and the Ukrainian citizens) pat the price for it.


Pretty sure that's the claim when someone harps on all the things we supposedly did while not just glossing over Russia's long history of interference and aggression, but omitting it completely, and saying Russia had every right to invade a sovereign country.

That's like saying the mob has every right to extort a business and beat the **** out of the owner if they don't go along with it and no one else should intervene because it's none of their business.


The whole business about a "sovereign country" is laughable. We invade one anytime we feel like it if is tangentially related to some national interest. Libya, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, on and on. What makes all these places invasion worthy and not Ukraine?
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We invaded Egypt? Iran?
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Agreed. I'm just saying that the idea that Putin is this person who's been wronged is ridiculous. They have agreed to play the same game we are, but the Russian leadership are just the losers. As they have been over and over for the past 60 years. You don't have to like that we play the game against them, but that won't change reality. Putin is finally getting ***** slapped for his hijinks, just like most of his predecessors.


The guy is losing a war with Joe Biden as the puppet master on the opposing side, for god's sakes.


I agree with this.
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GAC06 said:

We invaded Egypt? Iran?


Yes. Iran in the late 80's (territorial waters) and Egypt during the coup of 13
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A half truth is still a lie. Make no mistake, Putin knows the buttons to push.
 
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