LegalDrugPusher said:

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texagbeliever said:

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LegalDrugPusher said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Every LDP thread turns into

"You have TDS"

"Nuh uh you are blinded by Maga"

"No u"

"No u"

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I mean, I didn't even put any opinion or commentary in there. I just gave the source and left it alone.

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So then tell us why you posted this article with that title. It reads absolutely like a gotcha clickbait smear. Reminiscent of many threads started by a poster that is pro DeSantis. Why not hold yourself to a higher standard or be more careful in how you title your thread?

Here are some fair titles to actually discuss it:
Thoughts on RFK Jr as potential CDC director
Would you trust a Democrat like RFK Jr as CDC director?

Then have a quib of DeSantis was asked if he'd consider him and I'm not sure which way I lean.

Instead of encouraging discussion we get this stupid mud slinging and have to find the few knowledgeable posts (Nortex and others) that provide actual good info.

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I posted exactly as what Fox News reported. Don't shoot the messenger bro

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That's it. Okay so you were trolling. Guess you go into the ignore list as your takes aren't based in a desire to learn for yourself but rather score points.

texagbeliever said:

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LegalDrugPusher said:

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BigRobSA said:

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96AgGrad said:

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These conservative pillow fights are tiresome.

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Trump supporters aren't conservatives, so....

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So me being pro life, hate same sex marriage, want to shoot illegals along with a wall, limited government, pro business, anti woke I'm liberal?

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Honestly you post embarrassing takes for being so well "connected". You seem to try to emulate Trump's style but lack the perceived persona or wit to pull it off. Stop trying to be a characiature of MAGA.

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What are you talking about?

Rapier108 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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So much for the conservative

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Didn't read why he said did you? I'm shocked!

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Or maybe I have a different opinion on it. Shocking!!

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Confirmation bias.

You already hate DeSantis and think he's every horrible thing Trump calls him, so you see a false headline and it instantly confirms the untruths you already believe.

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This wasn't a rhetorical question

TexAgs91 said:

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lol where do you get this?

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

LegalDrugPusher said:

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texagbeliever said:

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LegalDrugPusher said:

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BigRobSA said:

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96AgGrad said:

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These conservative pillow fights are tiresome.

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Trump supporters aren't conservatives, so....

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So me being pro life, hate same sex marriage, want to shoot illegals along with a wall, limited government, pro business, anti woke I'm liberal?

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Honestly you post embarrassing takes for being so well "connected". You seem to try to emulate Trump's style but lack the perceived persona or wit to pull it off. Stop trying to be a characiature of MAGA.

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What are you talking about?

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Your description of being cosnervative: "hate same sex marriage" and "shoot illegals" are awful expressions of supproting the sanctity of marriage and secure border. They are vulgar and cause you to lose credibility from anyone who isn't America f--k yeah kind of person.

It is the answer I'd expect some 15 year old teen to say to impress his friends.

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Shagga said:

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As I said, that probably wasn't his intention. But there is no question that this is how it's being interpreted. That's why I think it was utterly stupid for him to say it. And you can't just dismiss that one doesn't necessarily lead to the other - that interpretation is entirely plausible.

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If you only read one sentence of the entire quote like the OP, yes, you can interpret that way. Just like if you selectively edit out certain clips, you can Nick Sandmann look like he was accosting a poor Native American man, instead of what actually happened when you look at the whole video.

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Okay, LDP could have posted the entire quote. But I quoted Desantis' complete response, and it's clear that the thread title and article make a good point.

I would also say that Trump's statements about RFKJ are equally as dumb:

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He's a very smart guy, and a good guy. He's a commonsense guy, and so am I. So, whether you're conservative or liberal, common sense is common sense.

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RFKJ is not a smart guy. He's a whackjob, and both Trump and Desantis apparently are catering to their base trying to say otherwise. Here's the positions RKFJ has taken

• He called the NRA a terrorist group
• He wanted to ban Exxon from operating in NY because he alleged they misled the public on climate change.
• He wanted the Koch brothers to be tried as war criminals
• He wished there was a law allowing climate change skeptics to be punished.
• He thinks that Sirhan Sirhan, who was seen by dozens and actually photographed killing his father, may not have been the real killer.
• He said that Covid 19 was targeted at whites and blacks, and that Jews and Chinese were most immune.

This guy is a kook, and any attempt by Desantis or Trump to make it appear otherwise makes me lose hope.

BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

nortex97 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

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You complain about name calling by name calling

BigRob's thing is to call anything not perfectly conservative liberal. It's his thing.

I think your ability to ignore trolls is way better but that's just because of all the practice you have had on the Russia thread lol.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Shagga said:

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As I said, that probably wasn't his intention. But there is no question that this is how it's being interpreted. That's why I think it was utterly stupid for him to say it. And you can't just dismiss that one doesn't necessarily lead to the other - that interpretation is entirely plausible.

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If you only read one sentence of the entire quote like the OP, yes, you can interpret that way. Just like if you selectively edit out certain clips, you can Nick Sandmann look like he was accosting a poor Native American man, instead of what actually happened when you look at the whole video.

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Okay, LDP could have posted the entire quote. But I quoted Desantis' complete response, and it's clear that the thread title and article make a good point.

I would also say that Trump's statements about RFKJ are equally as dumb:

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He's a very smart guy, and a good guy. He's a commonsense guy, and so am I. So, whether you're conservative or liberal, common sense is common sense.

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RFKJ is not a smart guy. He's a whackjob, and both Trump and Desantis apparently are catering to their base trying to say otherwise. Here's the positions RKFJ has taken

• He called the NRA a terrorist group
• He wanted to ban Exxon from operating in NY because he alleged they misled the public on climate change.
• He wanted the Koch brothers to be tried as war criminals
• He wished there was a law allowing climate change skeptics to be punished.
• He thinks that Sirhan Sirhan, who was seen by dozens and actually photographed killing his father, may not have been the real killer.
• He said that Covid 19 was targeted at whites and blacks, and that Jews and Chinese were most immune.

This guy is a kook, and any attempt by Desantis or Trump to make it appear otherwise makes me lose hope.

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The whole thing is disingenuous. Vivek literally said he would consider RFK as VP. Trump praises him as common sense, and DeSantis said some of the only agreement would be on FDA and CDC stuff, so that would be a problem. Of the 3 main R primary candidates, DeSantis has the least positive things to say about RFK and he gets the attack article. You literally have to turn off some reading comprehension ability to come to the conclusions that he was putting him out as a serious candidate for those positions.

Shagga said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Shagga said:

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As I said, that probably wasn't his intention. But there is no question that this is how it's being interpreted. That's why I think it was utterly stupid for him to say it. And you can't just dismiss that one doesn't necessarily lead to the other - that interpretation is entirely plausible.

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If you only read one sentence of the entire quote like the OP, yes, you can interpret that way. Just like if you selectively edit out certain clips, you can Nick Sandmann look like he was accosting a poor Native American man, instead of what actually happened when you look at the whole video.

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Okay, LDP could have posted the entire quote. But I quoted Desantis' complete response, and it's clear that the thread title and article make a good point.

I would also say that Trump's statements about RFKJ are equally as dumb:

Quote:

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He's a very smart guy, and a good guy. He's a commonsense guy, and so am I. So, whether you're conservative or liberal, common sense is common sense.

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RFKJ is not a smart guy. He's a whackjob, and both Trump and Desantis apparently are catering to their base trying to say otherwise. Here's the positions RKFJ has taken

• He called the NRA a terrorist group
• He wanted to ban Exxon from operating in NY because he alleged they misled the public on climate change.
• He wanted the Koch brothers to be tried as war criminals
• He wished there was a law allowing climate change skeptics to be punished.
• He thinks that Sirhan Sirhan, who was seen by dozens and actually photographed killing his father, may not have been the real killer.
• He said that Covid 19 was targeted at whites and blacks, and that Jews and Chinese were most immune.

This guy is a kook, and any attempt by Desantis or Trump to make it appear otherwise makes me lose hope.

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Not defending RFK by any means. I agree with you. I just think that the idea that RFK will be anywhere near the White House if DeSantis is elected is nothing more than idiocy. He was asked a question in an interview and he bunted the question away instead of attempting to knock it out the park.

Rapier108 said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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So much for the conservative

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Didn't read why he said did you? I'm shocked!

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MAGA doesn't care; they just want a (false) headline to affirm their confirmation bias.

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False headline? So, based on what actually came out of DeSantis mouth, what do you think the headline should be?

Charpie said:

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nortex97 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

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You complain about name calling by name calling

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I consider you a leftist in my head based on your long history of comments on this forum. You called yourself the queen of concerned moderates this month while lamenting conservative social issue positions broadly. Keep trying. I didn't hurt your feelings did I? Are you somehow offended I feel you are a leftist?

I'm a very tolerant person myself, but would never ever vote for a democrat for any office ever.

nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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2 reasons:

Anything that gives off a negative tone to DeSantis will not be tolerated on here

And number two because it came from me

If this article was about Trump, I would be praised for posting it

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Charpie said:

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nortex97 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

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You complain about name calling by name calling

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I consider you a leftist in my head based on your long history of comments on this forum. You called yourself the queen of concerned moderates this month while lamenting conservative social issue positions broadly. Keep trying. I didn't hurt your feelings did I? Are you somehow offended I feel you are a leftist?

I'm a very tolerant person myself, but would never ever vote for a democrat for any office ever.

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What about Democrats running as Republicans?

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nortex97 said:

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Charpie said:

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nortex97 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

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You complain about name calling by name calling

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I consider you a leftist in my head based on your long history of comments on this forum. You called yourself the queen of concerned moderates this month while lamenting conservative social issue positions broadly. Keep trying. I didn't hurt your feelings did I? Are you somehow offended I feel you are a leftist?

I'm a very tolerant person myself, but would never ever vote for a democrat for any office ever.

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What about Democrats running as Republicans?

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Phatbob said:

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nortex97 said:

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Charpie said:

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nortex97 said:

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BigRobSA said:

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nortex97 said:

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This is all over every single big media outlet right now, too. No idea why presenting this here is so bad today.

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Because we have IQs above our shoe size and realize this is an idiotic click bait attack on DeSantis with zero actual meaning.

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Well, hell I am on team desantis and don't by default click on or go to Fox News for anything but why not just post your thoughts/analyses of the news instead of getting into the name calling vitriol with other republicans?

We all know the drive by troll "concerned moderates" enjoy the squabbling but geeze

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You complain about name calling by name calling

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I consider you a leftist in my head based on your long history of comments on this forum. You called yourself the queen of concerned moderates this month while lamenting conservative social issue positions broadly. Keep trying. I didn't hurt your feelings did I? Are you somehow offended I feel you are a leftist?

I'm a very tolerant person myself, but would never ever vote for a democrat for any office ever.

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What about Democrats running as Republicans?

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If they have the enmity of the party of evil for running against it I will still pull that lever/fill that bubble regardless of what democrats and their propagandists lie to me about.

Because again the other option is treason, and death as Brian terry, and those police officers from Fargo learned so well.

Charpie said:

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talk to me when trump is actually a conservative and starts talking about policy.

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Like lowering your Income Taxes?

BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

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Charpie said:

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talk to me when trump is actually a conservative and starts talking about policy.

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Like lowering your Income Taxes?

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Like spending more than Obama did, in 8, but only in 4?
Like tariffs?
Like jobs programs?
Like being anti-2A?
Etc.

BigRobSA said:

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96AgGrad said:

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These conservative pillow fights are tiresome.

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Trump supporters aren't conservatives, so....

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Neither is DeSantis. He believes in tariffs and would consider a democrat in a leadership position. Would you even vote for Ronald Regan? I mean, dude gave amnesty to illegals and spent money like a drunken sailor.

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BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

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Charpie said:

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talk to me when trump is actually a conservative and starts talking about policy.

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Like lowering your Income Taxes?

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Like spending more than Obama did, in 8, but only in 4?
Like tariffs?
Like jobs programs?
Like being anti-2A?
Etc.

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anti-2A? LMAO

This is from the ultra left org The Heritage Foundation that obviously is a fluff piece they put out to protect the ultra-liberal Trump
The Heritage Foundation

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In his first term, President Trump largely lived up to his promise to protect Americans' Second Amendment rights.

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As with Trump's rhetoric, most of his administration's policy efforts have been consistent with his promise to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

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Yea. Anti 2A.

You AGAIN hit the nail on the head!!

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The whole thing is disingenuous. Vivek literally said he would consider RFK as VP. Trump praises him as common sense, and DeSantis said some of the only agreement would be on FDA and CDC stuff, so that would be a problem. Of the 3 main R primary candidates, DeSantis has the least positive things to say about RFK and he gets the attack article. You literally have to turn off some reading comprehension ability to come to the conclusions that he was putting him out as a serious candidate for those positions.

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Point taken but my point was that Desantis made a huge blunder, because some people were going to interpret it as that and others were going to disingenuously attack him for it even if they believed there was no chance. He was pandering and he blew it. I support him, but the man is not going to bridge the gap to Trump by pandering.

LDP wants to shoot people that cross the border? WTF is wrong with you?

Arrest? Send them back? Sure...but shoot them? That isn't a conservative position and any politician with an ounce of integrity wouldn't want someone saying that associated with them. Guess that explains why Trump is your guy.

Shagga said:

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Phatbob said:

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The whole thing is disingenuous. Vivek literally said he would consider RFK as VP. Trump praises him as common sense, and DeSantis said some of the only agreement would be on FDA and CDC stuff, so that would be a problem. Of the 3 main R primary candidates, DeSantis has the least positive things to say about RFK and he gets the attack article. You literally have to turn off some reading comprehension ability to come to the conclusions that he was putting him out as a serious candidate for those positions.

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Point taken but my point was that Desantis made a huge blunder, because some people were going to interpret it as that and others were going to disingenuously attack him for it even if they believed there was no chance. He was pandering and he blew it. I support him, but the man is not going to bridge the gap to Trump by pandering.

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I don't understand why not coming out and flat laughing at the idea in the first 10 seconds of the response is blowing it, but a straight "I'd consider him for VP" or "He's common sense, like me" is not blowing it...

This is nothing but a manufactured blunder. There literally is nothing there. Like the slavery in curriculum thing, unless you make up new definitions of words, there is absolutely nothing to defend, because no one actually believes there was a problem.

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I love seeing these threads.

1. LDP pushing a Fox News clickbait thread.
2. Seeing the usual suspects (the Magas versus the DeSanties) go after each other.
3. The fact that Fox News actually acts like all the other media outlets with their clickbait articles.
4. The fact that most people didn't bother to actually read the article.

Now we just need the text message exchange of LDP with someone within the GOP talking about this and it will be all complete.

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Why don't you stick to the issues instead of ad hominem. NOTHING in your post adds to the discussion.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/steve-bannon-if-robert-kennedy-was-ticket-trump/

Oops...

Steve Bannon wants Trump to put RFK on ticket as VP.

You're right, Trump was never in favor of red flag laws and never imposed a bump stock ban. None of that ever happened. Definitely.

civilaggie2011 said:

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You're right, Trump was never in favor of red flag laws and never imposed a bump stock ban. None of that ever happened. Definitely.

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Yep

Also discussing just taking weapons and worrying about the legality later.

He's anti-2A, just not as much as progressives in his Democrat party.

TexAgs91 said:

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So much for the conservative

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LarryElder said:

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LOL Trump the conservative warrior!

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