Israel/Hamas going at it

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BlackGold said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Yeah yeah. We already know that

Sorry the Trump admin didn't greenlight a strike on Qatar for you.


I dont give a **** what trump greenlights or not
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The White House and Arab states are all acting angry but I think it's all for domestic consumption.
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GAC06 said:

And I'm saying your reasoning is flawed because their capital city is basically the only city in their tiny country so that's where pretty much any visitor will be. (Except expat labor of course)

Ok. I don't think it is, but maybe. I am using common sense. If the US were to ok a foreign nation to strike and kill people within our borders, which would never ever happen, I doubt we would set the strike up to be in our capital city. You'd probably set it up in some corn field in Nebraska.
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So did they get their target. Not sure why we let any terrorists that kill Americans have any safe harbor.
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Harboring terrorists can come with a price.
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If Israel really did this without telling anyone (I don't believe this to be true), then Netanyahu has bigger balls than I give him credit for.

Guy is nails. Props to him.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

If Israel really did this without telling anyone (I don't believe this to be true), then Netanyahu has bigger balls than I give him credit for.

Guy is nails. Props to him.

Again, there was plenty of advanced warning from Israel to the US and from US to Qatar to ensure the Israeli planes weren't targeted and SAMs sent their way.

Qatar is bloviating for internal and Arab consumption. We're bloviating to not be seen as Israeli stooges (even if we are).

This would not have happened without direct US and Qatari approval, begrudged acceptance at minimum.


And you're right, Netanyahu and the Israeli military have some massive cajones for the absolute dismantling of the Middle East geopolitical status quo post Oct-7. They said they would fundamentally change the map, and they've done exactly that.
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Who?mikejones! said:

BlackGold said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Yeah yeah. We already know that

Sorry the Trump admin didn't greenlight a strike on Qatar for you.


I dont give a **** what trump greenlights or not

Are you American? If Trumps position is trying to broker peace, and Israel is doing strikes which we do not approve (and in fact hurt our efforts to broker peace), then Israel is acting against the interests of the United States.
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Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas
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Who?mikejones! said:

Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas

Well, peace is beneficial to the United States because basically the entire world considers this war to be a genocide by Israel that we are financially and diplomatically supporting. This destroys our credibility on the world stage as any sort of moral authority or "global force for good" which we love to style ourselves as.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas

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Keyno said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas

Well, peace is beneficial to the United States because basically the entire world considers this war to be a genocide by Israel that we are financially and diplomatically supporting. This destroys our credibility on the world stage as any sort of moral authority or "global force for good" which we love to style ourselves as.


Lol. The entire world does not believe that. Many do. Many dont. I known youre not the biggest fan of the Israelis but get real.

It is not that so, I dont really care what the world thinks of it any way.

Further, most around the world already thinks trump destroys our credibility so the more the merrier

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I'm glad the IDF is back to hitting legitimate Hamas targets and not Catholic Churches
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Keyno said:

Who?mikejones! said:

BlackGold said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Yeah yeah. We already know that

Sorry the Trump admin didn't greenlight a strike on Qatar for you.


I dont give a **** what trump greenlights or not

Are you American? If Trumps position is trying to broker peace, and Israel is doing strikes which we do not approve (and in fact hurt our efforts to broker peace), then Israel is acting against the interests of the United States.

This isn't directed at only you, but can you guys remain on topic of Israel/Hamas war and not derail this long thread with debates about US foreign policy please?

It's a debate worth having, just not on this thread. This thread has been a play by play of the conflict. Feel free to start another thread and debate the merits of the attack.

I don't flag posts, but the mods will end up deleting your conversation soon unless they've relaxed the rules.
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BlackGold said:

Im Gipper said:

That statement from White House is essentially:

This was not the most ideal way to do it, but glad Israel did what had to be done




Interesting take


The truth usually is. Thanks!

I'm Gipper
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Im Gipper
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nm.

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Im Gipper
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"No respect for sovereignty" he says


I'm Gipper
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Keyno said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas

Well, peace is beneficial to the United States because basically the entire world considers this war to be a genocide by Israel that we are financially and diplomatically supporting. This destroys our credibility on the world stage as any sort of moral authority or "global force for good" which we love to style ourselves as.

Then "the entire world" are idiots who don't understand the concept of reaping what you sow.

Israel's biggest mistake was not expelling all the Palestinians in 1967 when they had the chance.
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Israel does not care if it is seen as the good guy, they do what's in their countries best interest. We should fo the same.
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Keyno said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Trump isnt going to get peace between Israel and hamas. Sorry bro

Also, a temporary peace between Israel and hamas wouldnt be any more beneficial to the united states than the current conflict is.

The most beneficial thing would be the total destruction of hamas

Well, peace is beneficial to the United States because basically the entire world considers this war to be a genocide by Israel that we are financially and diplomatically supporting. This destroys our credibility on the world stage as any sort of moral authority or "global force for good" which we love to style ourselves as.




Stop lying most of the world does not care. You only think so because of Reddit and what you see on blue sky.

There's no such thing as peace with a hamas
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Nothing against Jewish people in general. I have many friends that are Jewish... But...

Israel is a terrorist state we need to stop funding.
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frito said:

Nothing against Jewish people in general. I have many friends that are Jewish... But...

Israel is a terrorist state we need to stop funding.



Lolz
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frito said:

Nothing against Jewish people in general. I have many friends that are Jewish... But...

Israel is a terrorist state we need to stop funding.



flagged.
TexasAggie81
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There is only one way to deal with terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and others, Scorched earth. Only complete destruction is acceptable. Anything less is compromise.
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Not sure who among the lovely Gazan population of 6th generation 'refugees' hasn't at this point recognized the Israeli's are pretty serious.

This is a very credible threat:

More, please.
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Pretty funny. Would not surprise me if Mossad has somehow access to Hinkle's phone.
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frito said:

Nothing against Jewish people in general. I have many friends that are Jewish... But...

Israel is a terrorist state we need to stop funding.


Do you have anything against Hamas? Hizbullah? The Houthis?
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I love it that the Israelis are unapologetically defending themselves against terrorists that have sworn on their lives to wipe every single one of them off the map. They're doing what any other rational country would do if faced with the same historical andversary and current threat.
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Im Gipper said:

BlackGold said:

Im Gipper said:

That statement from White House is essentially:

This was not the most ideal way to do it, but glad Israel did what had to be done




Interesting take


The truth usually is. Thanks!


Well you couldn't have been more incorrect in your assessment. I like how you dodged that post. Nice mind pretzel you've got going on over there.
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Well this thread went off the rails
BlackGold
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Phatbob said:

Well this thread went off the rails


Cause Israel probably blew it up.
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nortex97 said:


Not sure who among the lovely Gazan population of 6th generation 'refugees' hasn't at this point recognized the Israeli's are pretty serious.

This is a very credible threat:

More, please.

They hunted down Eichmann 15 years after World War II in Argentina.
LMCane
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very well stated and I believe 100% accurate.
LMCane
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For anyone interested in the real Mossad operation to capture Eichmann you need to watch this movie.

it was not Israel hunting down Eichmann as much as it was a coincidental series of events where a German Jew heard that Eichmann might be in Argentina and then eventually was able to convince David Ben Gurion to send a team to check it out.

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