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I have no idea if that is true or not, but they would be crazy to move or really change the product too much. Any decent Mavs ticket is at least $150. Why mess with that.

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Casinos are far more lucrative than a basketball team, that's probably one reason.

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I dunno, I can think of an ex president who ran a casino into bankruptcy.

It's been clearly established by now that if you guys want anything fun or modern or 21st century to happen in Texas then Dan Patrick needs to be primaried, retire, or beat in a general election.

Dan Patrick takes great pride in choking out medical marijuana and legal gambling. Things a majority of Texans would support are getting it's larynx crushed by our overly conservative state legislature who only wants to approach things with a 1950's viewpoint.

I thought this was a good summary and update on the topic.

https://www.chron.com/business/article/mavericks-deal-help-miriam-adelson-legalize-18544268.php

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the only condition? how about college scholarships?

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How about 50/50 it if 20%? I'd go for that. I'd add trade school scholarships to that as well.

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So what exactly is "homeless infrastructure," and how is it anything less than a government-run cluster****?

With all these apps, isn't gambling in Texas already legal?

We don't need physical casinos and bring all the trash people that come with that. Was in Vegas last weekend, and while the hotels and casinos are gorgeous, the dregs of society flock there.

Gambling (sportsbook, casino) should be legal in TX. And we shouldn't have to negotiate some BS deal with the temperance crowd. Homeless "infrastructure"? You people are insufferable.

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It's been clearly established by now that if you guys want anything fun or modern or 21st century to happen in Texas then Dan Patrick needs to be primaried, retire, or beat in a general election.

Dan Patrick takes great pride in choking out medical marijuana and legal gambling. Things a majority of Texans would support are getting it's larynx crushed by our overly conservative state legislature who only wants to approach things with a 1950's viewpoint.

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I'm conservative/populist. I like gambling. Don't care if you smoke MJ. I was in Vegas last year where they have legalized MJ. NO ****ING WAY do I want that riff raff that it brings in Galveston, Houston, or anywhere in Texas. Downtown Vegas used to be a cool place. I was with my 25yr old daughter and found myself watching her like she was a 12yr old due to the bums down there. Place is nasty now. I'll stay in Lake Charles or Biloxi going forward.

If Texas legalizes casino gambling, it's going to crash Louisiana's economy.

Heard a preacher call them caSINo. The gulf coast states I see don't look to be better for having gambling.

Restrict it to Galveston only. Like Atlantic City

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Restrict it to Galveston only. Like Atlantic City

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can we just revert Galveston back to "The Free State of Galveston" when they practically ignored state and federal law up until the 1950's?

valvemonkey91 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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It's been clearly established by now that if you guys want anything fun or modern or 21st century to happen in Texas then Dan Patrick needs to be primaried, retire, or beat in a general election.

Dan Patrick takes great pride in choking out medical marijuana and legal gambling. Things a majority of Texans would support are getting it's larynx crushed by our overly conservative state legislature who only wants to approach things with a 1950's viewpoint.

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I'm conservative/populist. I like gambling. Don't care if you smoke MJ. I was in Vegas last year where they have legalized MJ. NO ****ING WAY do I want that riff raff that it brings in Galveston, Houston, or anywhere in Texas. Downtown Vegas used to be a cool place. I was with my 25yr old daughter and found myself watching her like she was a 12yr old due to the bums down there. Place is nasty now. I'll stay in Lake Charles or Biloxi going forward.

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You don't have to worry about any of that with online sports betting and gaming

Gambling in Texas has been about to get real since I started in the industry in 2001. Harrah's, Isle, Boyd all had property purchased around Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, etc. They likely still do.

The question is not whether there is property available for casinos (there are - as one poster mentioned, Tillman has had a property ready to be switched to a casino for many years), but whether you can get the vote across. One thing that is not insignificant is the lobbying being done by many, many groups to keep gambling OUT of Texas. Are the dollars committed to that lobby enough to overshadow any other argument?

I would love to see gaming in Texas - I could likely get closer to Aggieland (though Lake Charles isn't far away as is), and I wouldn't mind living in Texas again.

I do think 2031 is on the early side of seeing a casino in the state if gaming is passed - There are a lot of logistics that need to handled; how many licenses, what are the laws governing casinos operating in Texas, etc. They can use other states' governance as a model, but it is still going to take a while. They will have to get casino vendors licensed, and all of that.

It is my opinion that it is still 7-10 years out (making 2031 possible), but we know the speed at which government moves. I used to think it was 10-15 years out, but the current economy has me rethinking that. How badly does Texas want new sources of revenue?

Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Restrict it to Galveston only. Like Atlantic City

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Can't be done. If the state legalizes casino gambling anywhere, Indian tribes have the right to do it on Indian land, and we would see a bunch of applications for new tribal land. The choice is casino gambling nowhere or casino gambling just about anywhere. The idea that the state could limit it to a small number of resort locations is totally illusory.

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With the news that the Adelsons are dropping a few billion to buy the Mavericks, I think the writing is on the wall. They are about to ramp up a huge push for legalizing gambling in Texas.
I've seen where they've discussed building the Mavericks a new arena as part of a large resort casino development.

This is way more than just some billionaire buying a sports team from another billionaire.

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Gambling rots society. It hurts the poor.

People of good will should not support this in any way.

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Love being born and raised in Texas. It's the greatest state in the USA. But it's time to legalize gambling.

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Why ? Its destroyed a lot of people. Besides there are legal ways in Texas to gamble. One of the best is a thing called the stock market and if you want to get really wild get an account where you can run shorts.

Casino gambling is dumb.

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Alcohol, tobacco and lottery destroy people as well, but they're alive and well in Texas. If you can't handle the responsibility, don't do it. That goes for drinking, gambling, etc. Legalize it and get out of the stone ages.

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Bawahahah Wow, So nobody in the stone ages ever gambled ? How does legalizing an ancient vice move us out of the stone age? Goofy argument given humanity has ALWAYS gambled. Hell we have more semi conductor fab construction than any state-- Does that count more towards 'Getting out of the stone ages?"

Seriously, sarcasm aside, Your argument is total BS.

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Your entire paragraph is meaningless because you started it with bwahahaha. I didn't realize children posted on here and had an opinion about something they won't be able to do for 5 more years.

On one hand I would like to give OK and LA casinos with some serious competition and maybe reduce my own tax burden (fat chance). On the other hand, it would add to societies woes... What the hell, let's double down!

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Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Since I'm all knowing and can predict the future, let me tell you how this plays out.

1. Legalizing gambling will be brought up at the next session in Texas
2. Millions of dollars will go into politicians coffers
3. The bill will die.

Rinse and repeat 2 years later.

Legalized gambling has been brought up in Texas the last billion years (ok, maybe a slight exaggeration) because it's a money maker for our politicians.

Now, want me to read your palms.

I'm all for casinos in texas. Add it to the coffers, reduce property tax, low sales tax

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chris1515 said:

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With the news that the Adelsons are dropping a few billion to buy the Mavericks, I think the writing is on the wall. They are about to ramp up a huge push for legalizing gambling in Texas.
I've seen where they've discussed building the Mavericks a new arena as part of a large resort casino development.

This is way more than just some billionaire buying a sports team from another billionaire.

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Gambling rots society. It hurts the poor.

People of good will should not support this in any way.

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Ok I'll play, Mr. Self Righteous. What are you currently doing to help the lost souls of bad will and poor folks in areas that do have legal gambling? Or do you just post your "values" on an internet message board to make you feel good while looking down on people for doing what they damn well please.

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I'm all for casinos in texas. Add it to the coffers, reduce property tax, low sales tax

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I don't disagree with you, but we heard the same thing about the lotto and funding education.

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It's been clearly established by now that if you guys want anything fun or modern or 21st century to happen in Texas then Dan Patrick needs to be primaried, retire, or beat in a general election.

Dan Patrick takes great pride in choking out medical marijuana and legal gambling. Things a majority of Texans would support are getting it's larynx crushed by our overly conservative state legislature who only wants to approach things with a 1950's viewpoint.

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I'm conservative/populist. I like gambling. Don't care if you smoke MJ. I was in Vegas last year where they have legalized MJ. NO ****ING WAY do I want that riff raff that it brings in Galveston, Houston, or anywhere in Texas. Downtown Vegas used to be a cool place. I was with my 25yr old daughter and found myself watching her like she was a 12yr old due to the bums down there. Place is nasty now. I'll stay in Lake Charles or Biloxi going forward.

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The bums aren't down there because of mj laws. They're down there because Democrats have taken over local government, and they do things to 'support and aid' homeless people. You see the same thing in Austin. It'll be that way until conservatives get control and eliminate the ridiculous things they do that literally attract homeless from other parts of the country.

BTW, most people who go to Vegas don't spend much time Downtown in Vegas anymore. It's been going downhill for years. All the extra things they've done down there have been to lure people away from the strip. Many Vegas visitors will go once, but not go back down there, unless they have a good reason. I agree, it was nice at one time, but that time was long ago, and, again, it didn't go downhill because of mj laws; it was happening LONG before that. Ask anybody who's lived there for the last 20-30 years.

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Dark_Knight said:

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I'm all for casinos in texas. Add it to the coffers, reduce property tax, low sales tax

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I don't disagree with you, but we heard the same thing about the lotto and funding education.

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When and where did anyone opfficially say that lottery receipts would fund education in Texas?

I hear this regularly, but the truth is the exact opposite. I don't doubt that people mistakenly remember this, or say they heard people talk about it, but the officials were quite clear before it was adopted; the money goes to the general fund, not education. Other states set it aside for education, but not Texas. Never did in Texas, from before implemented til today.

There is NO QUESTION casino gambling would be a HUGE benefit to the Texas economy and to the state coffers. There'd be an immediate stop to millions and millions of Texans hard earned dollars being spent in Louisiana and Oklahoma. Hundreds and hundreds of new jobs, hundreds of new and expanded ancillary business jobs/dollars, and money going to the state on fees they collect.

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Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Since I'm all knowing and can predict the future, let me tell you how this plays out.

1. Legalizing gambling will be brought up at the next session in Texas
2. Millions of dollars will go into politicians coffers
3. The bill will die.

Rinse and repeat 2 years later.

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Agree with you for the most part. However, there is serious money coming in from the other side now.

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Science Denier said:

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Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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Since I'm all knowing and can predict the future, let me tell you how this plays out.

1. Legalizing gambling will be brought up at the next session in Texas
2. Millions of dollars will go into politicians coffers
3. The bill will die.

Rinse and repeat 2 years later.

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Agree with you for the most part. However, there is serious money coming in from the other side now.

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The annual gravy train for these politicians makes up for a lot of cash if it's a one time deal.

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With all these apps, isn't gambling in Texas already legal?

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No, geolocation. Although I've been betting practically daily offshore for 20 years. Dan Patrick is a gd idiot.

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TheGreatEscape said:

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the only condition? how about college scholarships?

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How about 50/50 it if 20%? I'd go for that. I'd add trade school scholarships to that as well.

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So what exactly is "homeless infrastructure," and how is it anything less than a government-run cluster****?

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Good question. My proposal is if there was a gun to my head and I had to negotiate, then I'd like 20% to go to homeless aid and for divorce trials. Maybe for the 50/50 split proposal to be for funding the courts for divorce court and the end of no-fault divorce in Texas; instead of college scholarships.

Colleges are basically diploma mills anyway these days. Who doesn't have a college degree?

The homeless infrastructure would have to be not implemented by the state and freely granted to nonprofits. There would have to be no strings attached and no fine print. Moneys would be given to nonprofit groups to minister to the homeless in total freedom of speech, religion, and function.

All I want is to be able to place degenerate sports bets on my phone like a consenting adult.

TheGreatEscape said:

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TheGreatEscape said:

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the only condition? how about college scholarships?

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How about 50/50 it if 20%? I'd go for that. I'd add trade school scholarships to that as well.

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So what exactly is "homeless infrastructure," and how is it anything less than a government-run cluster****?

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Good question. My proposal is if there was a gun to my head and I had to negotiate, then I'd like 20% to go to homeless aid and for divorce trials. Maybe for the 50/50 split proposal to be for funding the courts for divorce court and the end of no-fault divorce in Texas; instead of college scholarships.

Colleges are basically diploma mills anyway these days. Who doesn't have a college degree?

The homeless infrastructure would have to be not implemented by the state and freely granted to nonprofits. There would have to be no strings attached and no fine print. Moneys would be given to nonprofit groups to minister to the homeless in total freedom of speech, religion, and function.

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You BIG government types are the worst...

TheGreatEscape said:

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the only condition? how about college scholarships?

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How about 50/50 it if 20%? I'd go for that. I'd add trade school scholarships to that as well.

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So what exactly is "homeless infrastructure," and how is it anything less than a government-run cluster****?

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Good question. My proposal is if there was a gun to my head and I had to negotiate, then I'd like 20% to go to homeless aid and for divorce trials. Maybe for the 50/50 split proposal to be for funding the courts for divorce court and the end of no-fault divorce in Texas; instead of college scholarships.

Colleges are basically diploma mills anyway these days. Who doesn't have a college degree?

The homeless infrastructure would have to be not implemented by the state and freely granted to nonprofits. There would have to be no strings attached and no fine print. Moneys would be given to nonprofit groups to minister to the homeless in total freedom of speech, religion, and function.

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That didn't answer the question. And why would you find divorce courts? That makes even less sense.

With the potential for legalizing gambling in Texas, it's worth keeping an eye on how this could unfold.

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Love being born and raised in Texas. It's the greatest state in the USA. But it's time to legalize gambling.

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Why ? Its destroyed a lot of people. Besides there are legal ways in Texas to gamble. One of the best is a thing called the stock market and if you want to get really wild get an account where you can run shorts.

Casino gambling is dumb.

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Agreed.

On a personal level, I despise casinos. However, on a more philosophical level, I think that if someone is stupid enough to throw their money away like that, they are going to find a way to do it.

That said, if we are going to have casinos, the casinos should not be able to kick people out because they use their brains and win too often.

But I'd rather not even see them here. I see them more as just another level of decadence.

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The state government doesn't need the money.

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You realize that means they could lower the other taxes they collect, right? Like property taxes?

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I didn't know that the state of Texas collects any property taxes. Where do they do this?

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Ag with kids said:

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TheGreatEscape said:

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The state government doesn't need the money.

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You realize that means they could lower the other taxes they collect, right? Like property taxes?

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I didn't know that the state of Texas collects any property taxes. Where do they do this?

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Your right. The state doesnt utilized property taxes. Its used at the local level. However, the state passed legislation last year for $18 billion in tax cuts in property taxes, the largest in Texas history, which came from a budget surplus of about $30+ billion. Makes you wonder what other benefits residents in the state could receive (including further reductions in property taxes) from the additional revenues coming from gambling if approved.

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-signs-largest-property-tax-cut-in-texas-history

Have it pay for a Bright Futures or similar scholarship program and gamble away.