Someone should over regulate Cornyn's brisket.

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Burdizzo said:

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I still remember the days when ANY radio was an option.

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My dad's 77 Chevy 3/4 crew cab never had a radio while my dad drove it. It did have a/c which was optional. He considered not getting it since his previous truck did not have it. Just heat.
No power seats or windows of course. It cost a little over $7,000.

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My 1961 MGA Mk 2 had no air conditioner, no outside door handles, the convertible top was a rotted mess so only a tonneau. Drove it to high school in Alabama. Yes, we were tougher back in the day.

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Guess I'm out of touch. Is AM radio being legislated away?

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No, auto manufacturers are deciding it is too expensive to include an AM radio tuner in new cars. But in dash GPS maps with directions, syncing with your phone, heated steering wheels & seats along with black boxes tracking your travels are absolutely needed.

A smart auto manufacturer would not drop the AM tuner, many people do want them and the disaster warning guidence. Stand out from the crowd.

Cornyn's reply recently to a letter I wrote him about the background check/firearms dealer fiasco was essentially the same thing. He would take absolutely no responsibility for passing the bill that gave the ATF more power. Then basically changed the subject and wanted my support. I realize his minions are the ones who write the responses but his are idiots.

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YouBet said:

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Guess I'm out of touch. Is AM radio being legislated away?

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No, auto manufacturers are deciding it is too expensive to include an AM radio tuner in new cars.

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Yeah, somehow a broadcasting method designed for 1920's technology can't cheaply be implemented with 2020's technology. /s

BonfireNerd04 said:

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richardag said:

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YouBet said:

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Guess I'm out of touch. Is AM radio being legislated away?

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No, auto manufacturers are deciding it is too expensive to include an AM radio tuner in new cars.

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Yeah, somehow a broadcasting method designed for 1920's technology can't cheaply be implemented with 2020's technology. /s

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No kidding! I built an AM radio with a Radio Shack kit I got as a Christmas gift when I was like 9 or 10 years old. You can still buy something similar on Amazon

WBAP in Dallas (am 820) now is also broadcast on FM (93.3)... happened about 2 or 3 mo. ago.

it was a shock hearing Mark Levin in stereo. :-)

There are times though that the fm signal is weak here in Collin Co ... so I'll switch to am

I listen to AM radio 80% of the time I'm driving. Music nowadays sucks.

Fwiw I'm in my late 30's.

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Every time!! How do you do it??

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Just google it.

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I listen to AM radio 80% of the time I'm driving. Music nowadays sucks.

Fwiw I'm in my late 30's.

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You sound fun.

That's exactly the main problem. It's not like Collin County is in the sticks either . I live outside of Huntsville and I get 1 fm station somewhat consistently

Here's an idea. Buy a radio you like. Put it in your car.

It's a virtually cost free regulation relative to new car prices. Plus, given the public safety aspect, this is a no brainer

Fed.gov should have zero say in any consumer automobile matter. Get outta the way, we can handle this on our own.

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No but car manufacturers have proposed not including it going forward because EV interferes with it the signal supposedly making the am band unusable and it also cuts (minimal ) cost on the vehicle . A little bit of shielding would solve the issue . Consider what particular political leaning lives on Am radio tho. Yes, the
Conservative movement needs to adjust and adapt and they have but there are other reasons to keep it as well. Longer range broadcast for disasters and traffic and weather reports and local news for instance . The legislation would be to include am if the car has a radio as I understand it . Imo, this smells mostly of political manipulation. I will admit I am conflicted because I'm a "let the market decide" type but I like AM content . Maybe fm would fill the gap but it's only line of sight transmission. Sat based is mostly not going to provide local /regional content imo.

Also Jmo but if am radio goes away in cars then am stations will also become extinct. Rush may have almost single handedly saved AM radio and this burns leftists up to this day imo. His impact is still apparent.


Perhaps I am an outlier but I probably listen to AM during approx 50% of my drive time especially when in an urban/suburban area.

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This is exactly the issue in a nut shell. The government mandated EVs. The manufacturers are taking a bath on EVs. So saving $10 per vehicle that would make the AM radios work was the option the car makers chose.

Regenerative breaking is the noise maker. It can be mitigated but since car makers are forced to make cars the public doesn't want they aren't willing to make them well. Don't think this is the only corner being cut

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Here's a quick alternative...

https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/simple-radio-live-am-fm-app/id891132290

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Yes, but the overall point is that it will muzzle AM radio. Sure, some people will figure out how to get it. The vast majority will not. This is deliberate.

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Yep, conservative talk radio dominates the AM dial and it is currently available to every person that purchases a car in the United States. Leftists would love nothing better than to eliminate that conservative voice.

Thankfully, AM radio is also critical in times of emergency or disaster, so there are still enough sane Democrats that support leaving it in the cars that it is safe - at least for now.

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Not in Tesla's or other electric vehicles.

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YouBet said:

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Guess I'm out of touch. Is AM radio being legislated away?

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No, auto manufacturers are deciding it is too expensive to include an AM radio tuner in new cars.

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Yeah, somehow a broadcasting method designed for 1920's technology can't cheaply be implemented with 2020's technology. /s

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No kidding! I built an AM radio with a Radio Shack kit I got as a Christmas gift when I was like 9 or 10 years old. You can still buy something similar on Amazon

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I did too, but I couldn't get the tuning to work, and my radio was stuck on a Spanish station.

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AM radio? My wife is thinking about a new car but can't find one that has a CD player. Made the mistake of suggesting a music streaming service or Sirius XM subscription and can tell you with absolute certainty that this is NOT an option.

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Android Auto, Apple CarPlay....????

Get Sirius XM radio. Haven't listened to AM or FM in 6 years. Mostly **** on both channels

It's an idea but imo it's not the optimal solution

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AM radio? My wife is thinking about a new car but can't find one that has a CD player. Made the mistake of suggesting a music streaming service or Sirius XM subscription and can tell you with absolute certainty that this is NOT an option.

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Android Auto, Apple CarPlay....????

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GM and I believe Ford have already announced they will be dropping Android Auto and Car Play. They will have proprietary os that will have its own app store. They are cutting apple out. Android a little less since google is building the os for them

As long as the stereo has Bluetooth, all is a-ok.

Maybe. My kids Subaru won't bluetooth streams that aren't car play enabled. Until she got that car i didn't know that was a thing. But she couldn't listen to Aggie games on a stream except through carplay. Regular bluetooth connection didn't work for apps or streams.

2019 Forester. I am unaware of any other vehicle this applies to. Bur if one can do it. Others may follow

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No but car manufacturers have proposed not including it going forward because EV interferes with it the signal supposedly making the am band unusable and it also cuts (minimal ) cost on the vehicle . A little bit of shielding would solve the issue . Consider what particular political leaning lives on Am radio tho. Yes, the
Conservative movement needs to adjust and adapt and they have but there are other reasons to keep it as well. Longer range broadcast for disasters and traffic and weather reports and local news for instance . The legislation would be to include am if the car has a radio as I understand it . Imo, this smells mostly of political manipulation. I will admit I am conflicted because I'm a "let the market decide" type but I like AM content . Maybe fm would fill the gap but it's only line of sight transmission. Sat based is mostly not going to provide local /regional content imo.

Also Jmo but if am radio goes away in cars then am stations will also become extinct. Rush may have almost single handedly saved AM radio and this burns leftists up to this day imo. His impact is still apparent.


Perhaps I am an outlier but I probably listen to AM during approx 50% of my drive time especially when in an urban/suburban area.

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I remember installing special coil and plug wires in my cars in the 60s and 70s to eliminate electrical interference with the AM radio. Shielding is the correct answer.

My old car has an aftermarket radio (probably 15+ years old), yet whether I'm using BT or have my phone plugged in to charge (which also connects it OS to "OS"), I can stream podcasts or live radio, etc. Maybe it's because it's older and dumber tech, but it works like a charm.

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Maybe. My kids Subaru won't bluetooth streams that aren't car play enabled. Until she got that car i didn't know that was a thing. But she couldn't listen to Aggie games on a stream except through carplay. Regular bluetooth connection didn't work for apps or streams.

2019 Forester. I am unaware of any other vehicle this applies to. Bur if one can do it. Others may follow

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Did a quick scan of the web, and found a link (and note from AI) that may be of assistance (even though the last note seems to say it's not possible):

https://www.madisonrising.com/subaru-forester-bluetooth-pairing-problems/

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The 2019 Subaru Forester supports Bluetooth connectivity for hands-free phone connectivity and audio streaming. To pair your mobile phone with the Bluetooth system in your Subaru Forester (2019), follow these steps:

• Access the "Settings" menu on the multimedia touchscreen display.
• Select "Bluetooth" and ensure it is turned on.
• On your mobile phone, enable Bluetooth and search for available devices.
• When "Subaru Forester" appears, select it, and enter the displayed PIN when prompted on your phone.
• Once paired, you can make hands-free calls and stream audio through the vehicle's speakers.

Note that the 2019 Forester only supports CarPlay via a cable connection, not wirelessly via Bluetooth.

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Cruz has been trying for a while to get a bill and recently had 60 Senate co-sponsors.

CRUZ, MARKEY ANNOUNCE BILL TO PROTECT AM RADIO HITS 60 COSPONSORS

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WASHINGTON, D.C. U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Ranking Member of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, and Sen. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), member of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, recently announced the AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act now has bipartisan support from 60 members of the Senate. This bipartisan legislation would direct the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to require automakers to maintain AM broadcast radio in their new vehicles at no additional charge. The House legislation has 246 co-sponsors, as well.

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I am ignorant on why AM should/should not be maintained in cars, but the government requiring automakers to do something "free of charge" just doesn't sit well with me.

While it may be "free" on all cars I'm sure the cost is just moved to another part.

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If it was not for AM radio we would probably be sitting in camps under a hammer and sickle flag right now. Just think if there was no Rush Limbaugh. I remember before him it was just dirty lib after dirty lib on EVERY SINGLE SHOW ON AM AND FM. I still remember hearing Rush for the first time. It was amazing because I literally never heard anybody before ever say ANYTHING conservative on the radio. It was amazing to listen to him the first time and hear somebody state views I held. The AM revolution saved this country or at least pushed communism back a few decades !!!

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Agreed but my intent was for this post to be more about the range of responses from the different legislators than it was the am radio issue but it seems many here were not familiar with the issue.

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"over regulate." lol. "at no additional charge." Huh? That implies a free AM radio. It's not free to begin with; it's in the price of the car.

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It's needed for the apocalypse or war. Pretty cheap. I say keep them in the cars. Sometimes the AM radio station in town is the only thing still going after a disaster.

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During the derecho in Houston last month I got out an AM radio to hear what was going on since power and Internet was out.

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richardag said:

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YouBet said:

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Guess I'm out of touch. Is AM radio being legislated away?

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No, auto manufacturers are deciding it is too expensive to include an AM radio tuner in new cars.

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Yeah, somehow a broadcasting method designed for 1920's technology can't cheaply be implemented with 2020's technology. /s

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No kidding! I built an AM radio with a Radio Shack kit I got as a Christmas gift when I was like 9 or 10 years old. You can still buy something similar on Amazon

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And where can I find a Radio Shack these days?

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agent-maroon said:

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AM radio? My wife is thinking about a new car but can't find one that has a CD player. Made the mistake of suggesting a music streaming service or Sirius XM subscription and can tell you with absolute certainty that this is NOT an option.

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Android Auto, Apple CarPlay....????

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GM and I believe Ford have already announced they will be dropping Android Auto and Car Play. They will have proprietary os that will have its own app store. They are cutting apple out. Android a little less since google is building the os for them

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My 2016 F150 had Android Auto. It was such a temperamental piece of crap, I disabled it. Ford should outsource their infotainment. The setup in my wife's Nissan is far superior, and I consider myself a Ford loyalist.

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Sigh... didn't really miss them until Frys went away too. Haven't had a need to do a computer/electronics build in a while and don't really know where I'll shop when it's time

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GM and I believe Ford have already announced they will be dropping Android Auto and Car Play. They will have proprietary os that will have its own app store. They are cutting apple out. Android a little less since google is building the os for them

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wtf. jackholes

I mean you can still listen to it through Apple Play that even rental cars have today.