Obesity Epodemic

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fc2112
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I know, I know - old topic.

But today, we went to Eggsquisite Cafe in Mansfield for breakfast. There were 6 other men in the restaurant.

Every one of them were at least 100 lbs heavier than me. Every. Single. One. And a couple of them were at least 450-500 lbs.

Just insane how bad things have gotten. Not sure what can be done, but best of hopes to RFK Jr to do whatever the feds can do.
Burrus86
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Misspelling epidemic…
Im Gipper
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Even the "i" in epidemic has gotten rounder!!

I'm Gipper
fc2112
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Yeah, I'll go with that.
TexasAGGIEinAR
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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.
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Three ways to fix this.

1. Stop eating processed and complex foods. You can eat healthy and still enjoy the meal. People want to just grab a box and microwave it though because it's easier.

2. Count calories until you understand the numbers. After that it's really simple to make sure you're consuming the same amount you're expending. If you are still actively trying to lose weight, make sure you are expending more than you're taking in.

3. Bring back fat shaming. Every time I put on a few extra pounds, the guys at the gym give me crap about it until I do something about it. Everybody needs a little push now and again.

Bonus. Cut out all alcohol and limit your desserts. This does wonders.

It really is this simple.
CheeseSndwch
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I think I've mentioned it before but when I'm living/working abroad I maintain my regular workout routine and eating habits and I lose weight without even trying (avg .5 lbs/day) but within days of being stateside my weight starts creeping back up.

Ever been on a long vacation in Europe and terrified you'll gain weight from eating all the decadent food but some how you either lose or maintain your weight? That can't all be attributable to walking.

There is something wrong with our food/water supply.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Hondo.
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Morbidly obese is the new husky.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Go watch a podcast with Casey and Callie Means.



bigfooticus
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Was walking into a building in Willis a week ago and a 500+ lb guy was already on the path. He would take a few steps then his friend would move a chair for him to rest in before he took more steps. He looked about 50 and As I passed him by, he mentioned that 'it was hell getting older'. I just said 'yeah'
Im Gipper
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rocky the dog said:




Master of the Meme!!!

I'm Gipper
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https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b00fc888-5779-484a-ab3c-871da56a04cb
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rocky the dog said:


this is true but that's not what's causing the obesity epidemic….ear a well balanced diet and supplement with multi-vitamin supplement and you're pretty much covered over what's in that tweet
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Yeah but have they tried semaglutide
MEEN Ag 05
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If someone is overweight or out of shape, it comes down to one of two factors:

1) They want to be
2) They don't want to do what it takes to change it

That's it.

We can gripe about quality of food, lack of education, how expensive it is to eat right, how much exercise equipment costs, etc. but the bottom line is there are resources in this country to eat right and get into shape if you really want to - no matter the situation.

You can have all the resources in the world at your fingertips, but none of that matters if there isn't a will to get it done. Being in shape is not easy for most people - and SURPRISE people are lazy, don't want to put in the effort, and want an easy way out. People who want it will find a way to get it done.

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thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?
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Co-worker and I were having lunch at one of those all-you-can-eat Asian buffets. We were finishing up and about to leave when in walk these two ENORMOUS women one of which had a son who appeared to be about eight years old. The larger one had to be pushing 450 and the other 400. We took our time as we wanted to see what they came back from the buffet with. They did not disappoint. Both of them returned with two plates each piled high with food. We speculated on whether the chairs at their table would support them when they sat and we we both very impressed by the quality of furniture in that establishment. I left that restaurant sad, struck by the thought that the little boy's mom would likely not be alive to see him graduate high school.

Now, medicine is driven by "patient satisfaction" and many doctors won't tell their patients that they are obese and need to change their lifestyle for fear of receiving a bad rating. The media preaches to us not to "fat shame" obese people, but rather celebrate them and feature them in movies, television shows, and advertisements from swimsuits and lingerie to prescription medications. It is amazing to me how ass backward and upside down this country has become in every facet of life.
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I don't remember seeing any fat people 60 years ago. Moved from Houston to Phoenix a couple of years ago and it's very noticeable how many more people are fit here. Even when it's hot people are outside but this time of year everyone it seems is out.
ts5641
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fc2112 said:

I know, I know - old topic.

But today, we went to Eggsquisite Cafe in Mansfield for breakfast. There were 6 other men in the restaurant.

Every one of them were at least 100 lbs heavier than me. Every. Single. One. And a couple of them were at least 450-500 lbs.

Just insane how bad things have gotten. Not sure what can be done, but best of hopes to RFK Jr to do whatever the feds can do.
Everything we've been taught and told about nutrition is wrong. The government and pharma have lied to us for 50 years and we're seeing the fruits of their labor.
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thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.
What policy failure, exactly? There are thousands of food choices and endless workout routines to fit your age/fitness level. I've gained 10 lbs over the last six months because I have increased alcohol consumption and greatly decreased exercising. I'm getting fatter, especially in my belly. It's no one else's fault. It's not a policy failure.
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Seems like we are losing our country due to poor health and no one even had to fire a missile.
ts5641
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NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?
Of course exercise is critical to health, but does very little for weight loss. You'd have to exercise like a professional athlete to cut the calories enough from a typical American diet to make a difference.
We went to Europe this summer and noticed, other than tourists, there were anywhere near as many fat people there. Portions were smaller also. Ingredients were fresher. We're lazy and eat massive processed foods in incredible portions.
93MarineHorn
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ts5641 said:

NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?
Of course exercise is critical to health, but does very little for weight loss. You'd have to exercise like a professional athlete to cut the calories enough from a typical American diet to make a difference.
We went to Europe this summer and noticed, other than tourists, there were anywhere near as many fat people there. Portions were smaller also. Ingredients were fresher. We're lazy and eat massive processed foods in incredible portions.
Working out consistently promotes healthier choices. It creates a positive feedback loop as you start to see improvement and get more fit, you want to eat healthier to make the most of your efforts. If you know you have to get up and go for a 45 minute run the next morning, you'll probably pass on the extra glass of wine.
TxSquarebody
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I found an old diet book from the 50's. Had everything from an 800 daily calorie meal plan to 3000 calories. One thing that struck me was how each plan allowed for a serving of Coca-Cola...serving size? 6 ounces. That's it. And it was probably cane sugar not HFCS.
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Interestingly the FDA JUST updated last week their guidelines about what can be labelled as healthy. Prior to this change nuts and salmon were not considered healthy but sweetened cereals and granola bars were. Insanity letting big food police themselves.

What I was taught in the late 90s in medical school was 100% wrong and many docs and adults still practice the low fat diet with substitute margarine and such which has not been helpful at all.

A book called Deep Nutrition really helped re-educate myself on nutrition and dyslipidemia, great read with solid biochemical basis.

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Two most profitable industries right now: sickness & war. This isn't an accident.
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NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?


Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.
Tramp96
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ts5641 said:

NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?
Of course exercise is critical to health, but does very little for weight loss. You'd have to exercise like a professional athlete to cut the calories enough from a typical American diet to make a difference.
We went to Europe this summer and noticed, other than tourists, there were anywhere near as many fat people there. Portions were smaller also. Ingredients were fresher. We're lazy and eat massive processed foods in incredible portions.


We spent over a week in Hungary just outside of Budapest a few years ago, and they were constantly feeding us. Tons of bread and carbs as well (highly recommend you try chimney cake once in your life). Finished every evening with some homemade Palinka, their national liquor.

They also eat Haribo gummy bears like they're going out of style.

And we lost weight. I lost like 5-7lbs in 10 days.

That's because all the food was just basic ingredients without all the chemical additives we have here.

El Gallo Blanco
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So many conservative men over 40 are obese. Imagine how much stronger our side would be if more men took care of their bodies and stayed in fighting shape. Too many lethargic men with low T.

He may be on TRT, and he may be a loon on some issues, but RFK Jr. at 70 is pretty impressive...

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ts5641 said:

NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?
Of course exercise is critical to health, but does very little for weight loss. You'd have to exercise like a professional athlete to cut the calories enough from a typical American diet to make a difference.
We went to Europe this summer and noticed, other than tourists, there were anywhere near as many fat people there. Portions were smaller also. Ingredients were fresher. We're lazy and eat massive processed foods in incredible portions.
I have not found this to be the case at all. If I routinely go to the gym, I can eat a pretty carefree diet and still stay in good shape. Or I can eat a healtheir meat and veggies based diet and stay in very good shape, and feel even better.
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thelaw4 said:

NeverSeenEmWin said:

thelaw4 said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.


Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.


The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?


Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.
These are choices. Someone living this lifestyle has placed their health far down the priority list and are looking to blame someone else for their obesity. You can exercise at home. I do P90X in a small room several days a week (when I'm not being lazy). No gym membership and no sidewalks required.
 
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